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redarrow 06-26-2004 05:25 PM

Girl problems..
 
Ok well Ive been with this girl for about two weeks..weve known each other for about a month.. yeah.
So heres the story: About three weeks ago, she said she liked me, and we exchanged phone numbers etc. etc. (cuz I do like her too) and later that week we got together for coffee. The next day we went and watched all the high schoolers graduate.
That saturday we got coffee again (and I made my move ;))
Then that tuesday we played some mini-golf. Fun times.

From then on, it all turned bad. Everyday she says she's busy when I call her to see if she can hang out. Theres always some excuse. A few examples: Friday (yesterday) she couldnt hang out cuz she had to teach some kids karate :confused: .
Tuesday she had to go to her grandma's house.
We havent seen each other in person for two weeks.

Theres another thing.. Today she said she had to go to her sisters house. Later I talk to her friend and she says that the two of them are seeing a movie. Now shes lying to me? wtf?!

Anyways.. what do you guys think is up? Should I cut it off?

thanks in advance

SinisterMotives 06-26-2004 05:29 PM

Yeah, cut it off. Apparently she already has.

wonderwench 06-26-2004 05:37 PM

Or, she is confused. I'd give her some space for a couple of weeks. If you still feel drawn to her, give it one more shot. If she is still unavailable, then you'll have your answer.

SinisterMotives 06-26-2004 05:43 PM

I would ordinarily agree with Wenchie here, but lying in order to avoid you two weeks into the relationship doesn't bode well. A lot of girls won't come right out and tell you they're not interested because they're afraid it will hurt your feelings, so they make endless excuses for why they can't go out. That's what this one sounds like to me. At the least, just stop calling her and leave the ball in her court.

analog 06-26-2004 06:31 PM

This will be harsh, but it's the truth.

I don't think you were really ever dating. If you had a "fun" night when you mini-golfed, and then it went to hell and avoidance, she was merely unable to express her disinterest in a way that you understood.

She doesn't want to date you, you should break it off. There's a tiny chance i'm wrong, which can be corrected by simply asking her. She'll tell you what's what.

Kazic 06-26-2004 06:49 PM

I agree with Analog on this one. She is not interested.

timalkin 06-26-2004 07:12 PM

I'd definitely quit calling her. If she ever calls you again, act surprised, like you don't know why she'd be calling you. Passive-aggressive I admit.

DelayedReaction 06-26-2004 07:15 PM

Yeah, it never really happened man. Sorry things didn't go right, but them's the breaks.

Sooner or later you'll end up just accepting that shit like this happens, and deal with it accordingly. Most people just aren't meant to work out. Fortunately your right hand will never leave you, and your left is always there in times of need.

MSD 06-26-2004 07:27 PM

Leave a message. Tell her that you just want her to tell you if she isn't interested. Something like, "If you're breaking things off, it would be nice to let me know."

Church 06-26-2004 09:04 PM

/me ques Jay Z's 99 Problems chorus

Shades 06-26-2004 09:57 PM

Here is yet another moment that can be phrased in terms of Ladder Theory. Here's the link:Ladder Theory Now here's the relevant quote:

Quote:

Scenario 2: Tom meets Jane. She's cute and seems smart. After an appropriate amount of time he asks her out on a date. She acccepts and they have what seems to be a perfectly nice date. Tom thinks he has a chance with Jane. He asks her out again. She says no, either explicitly or by never returning his phone call. Tom has no idea what the Hell just happened. Jane starts fucking an unemployed alcoholic.

Ladder Theory Explanation: Jane misrepresented which ladder Tom was on. He thought he was on the good ladder because of her acceptance of the date. Mistake. This led to an unintentional ladder jump. He was kicked into the Abyss. In this situation, Jane often wants to stay friends becasue you are so interesting and funny or some shit like that. If this happens you are most likely an Intellectual Whore. I'm sorry. This is most likely to be a ninja-bitch.
I've been there, it sucks. This won't be the last time it happens. Try not to beat yourself up, every guy has been there, it's not a big deal and you're not any worse than anyone else for being in this situation.

Buk 06-26-2004 11:52 PM

The ladder theory owns, and its soo true. Damn women and their chutes and ladders games...

nanofever 06-27-2004 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buk
The ladder theory owns, and its soo true. Damn women and their chutes and ladders games...
Yuppers.

I wish schools would teach useful knowledge like this.

Rush 06-27-2004 05:09 AM

Holy shit!
That ladder theory is pure gold!

Now all i need is an explanation why women rather keep genuine good guys as mates and end up shagging arrogant self centered twats that treat them like shit.

Women. Pfft. Pass me a pint.


Oh and redarrow. Get the hell out of there man.
My philosophy. have to work enough for money. I ain't working for love too. If something good's gonna happen it will. And that's when it's truely good :)

ratbastid 06-27-2004 06:55 AM

Who knows what happened, but you don't need us to see the results. She's clearly not interested. Why throw attention after her?

Cue the mantra: It's Her Loss. She Doesn't Know What She's Missing.

Better luck next time, big guy.

Strange Famous 06-27-2004 07:05 AM

if you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems...

Erm, sorry.

I guess she is just trying to let you down with out actually coming out and saying it, which is kind of lame on her part, in your position I would just quit chasing and move on, I might have one go at saying "ok, look, I guess it isnt working out?" just so I knew for sure, I mean, at least that way you have some closure on it.

Strange Famous 06-27-2004 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoungNastyMan
/me ques Jay Z's 99 Problems chorus
JAY Z?????? :eek: :eek:

ICE, ICE m.f. T!!!!

doncalypso 06-27-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by redarrow
Ok well Ive been with this girl for about two weeks..weve known each other for about a month.. yeah.
So heres the story: About three weeks ago, she said she liked me, and we exchanged phone numbers etc. etc. (cuz I do like her too) and later that week we got together for coffee. The next day we went and watched all the high schoolers graduate.
That saturday we got coffee again (and I made my move ;))
Then that tuesday we played some mini-golf. Fun times.

From then on, it all turned bad. Everyday she says she's busy when I call her to see if she can hang out. Theres always some excuse. A few examples: Friday (yesterday) she couldnt hang out cuz she had to teach some kids karate :confused: .
Tuesday she had to go to her grandma's house.
We havent seen each other in person for two weeks.

Theres another thing.. Today she said she had to go to her sisters house. Later I talk to her friend and she says that the two of them are seeing a movie. Now shes lying to me? wtf?!

Anyways.. what do you guys think is up? Should I cut it off?

thanks in advance


Let's face it... she's not interested in you the same way you're interested in her. And more important, she's probably fucking some other guy and doesn't plan on ever letting you in her pants.

SinisterMotives 06-27-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strange Famous
I guess she is just trying to let you down with out actually coming out and saying it, which is kind of lame on her part, in your position I would just quit chasing and move on, I might have one go at saying "ok, look, I guess it isnt working out?" just so I knew for sure, I mean, at least that way you have some closure on it.
It has been my experience that girls who behave this way don't care if you get closure or not. In their view, there was nothing there to begin with, and therefore no closure is required. So it would probably be a waste of time to even look for it.

redarrow 06-27-2004 04:43 PM

Ok thank you guys for the replies.
I guess I should have added one thing..
Last Thursday she said she could do something next week.
For sure.
So what does that mean?

wilbjammin 06-27-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redarrow
Last Thursday she said she could do something next week.
For sure.
So what does that mean?

It sounds like she's busy. Maybe she's not a point in her life where she can't focus on creating and maintaining relationships as the highest priority above other things. Have a talk with her and ask her to be realistic about what kind of time commitments she has to see if there really is room in her life, if you decide that you still like her.

Shades 06-27-2004 05:00 PM

Also, tell specifically that you do not want this to be a "ninja-bitch."

Kazic 06-27-2004 06:11 PM

Ladder theory? explains so much.

BooRadley 06-27-2004 11:25 PM

chumps

1) read the ladder theory
2) come to grips with your misogyny
3) get laid

or

1) have oneitis for a girl who doesn't like you and not get laid

Seems like an easy decision to me.

Redarrow, cut the shit off , she's not interested.

HockeyGuy 06-28-2004 04:38 PM

Sorry bud, but i'm getting the feelign that shes not interested... prob start lookign elsewhere. unfortunatly begin the process again, but hopefully with the right results next time

Weezil 06-30-2004 10:03 PM

Sounds all too typical. I'd say you did something on one of those meetings to stop her from being attracted to you i.e. saying or acting in a way that makes you look needly, buying her stuff to try and win affection instead of earning it, generally acting wussy-like, etc. Even if you got a smooch or something, you can still ruin it.

I've come to realize that Ladder Theory is good, but incomplete. It doesn't say that you, by your actions can determine what ladder you get put on immediately. It also doesn't tell you what actions to do, either. It does typify the type of guy that succeeds but doesn't explain why (it tries but doesn't get there).

Don't get me wrong, it's a powerful tool. But then again, Darwin is only a mechanism and doesn't explain how things got started the same way as Creationism totally neglects cross-species similarities and the fossil record. Meshing LT with what the Fast Seduction101 guys say has really thrown my thinking about the fairer sex in a totally different direction.

Sorry dude, you blew it.

rainheart 06-30-2004 10:31 PM

Ladder Theory sucks.
Fast Seduction 101 is a LOT CLOSER.
But simply the BEST (as far as I know) place to seek explanations is a book called "How to make anyone fall in love with you" by Leil Lowndes. I'm too lazy to link but it's there on amazon.com

(The book is a lot like fast seduction 101 and it reiterates similar ideas but it takes a less 'gimmicky' approach, and even though it's written by a woman, it's written a lot better than FS101 could ever make it)

Blackthorn 07-04-2004 07:00 AM

Move on. It's a grand grand world out there with many other, strike that and say better, choices ;)

strife 07-05-2004 12:44 PM

Just ask her. Worse case scenario it's already over.


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