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Old 06-14-2004, 07:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting article, ,mainly bullshit points, some maybe valid.
For instance, the censorship issues causing males to be visually discrimanated against leading to increased expectations in the female form, is an interesting point. Mainly because of the effect on teenage boys i guess.

Although the rest of it is rather humourous. I doubt any guy is really that critical

Anyway, there now appears to be another size matters for women. Cause it's favourable for women to have smaller vaginas
Anyway, my dick is not really symmetrical or neat or whatever (in my humble opinon ); so myself and i imagine most other guys, wouldn't really care too much about it.

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As we all know, looks are important when it comes to the female body; there is no denying that fact. The way a female looks, is the representation of health and beauty. In addition, it all comes down to the reproduction capabilities of the female. Usually healthy females, whom developed properly. Where her body was moulded ideally and symmetrically tend to produce healthy offspring and that is what males seek unconsciously from females, its all-primal instincts.

Women are the beautiful gender, in that they are the keepers of the shapely bodies, which by design, peoples attention is drawn instantly to a beautiful woman. At the same time, it can be a burden to some women. There is one area of the female body, that either attracts or rejects males and that is the female reproductive organ.

Some women are blessed with genitalia that are clean and smooth typically, what is considered attractive. While others are not so lucky and end up having genitalia, which is not very attractive, in essence they have genitalia that are ugly and unsightly. This is one point, which is very apparent through out centuries. Where it can be seen in great works such as past and present sculptures, which tend to deny the existence of female genitalia.

Many sculptors failed to carve out the female vulva, because in many cases the female subject that is posing, will not poses a genital that is appealing or attractive. This is why so many ancient sculptures do not have female genitals carved out. Other factors also involve that people used to think that looking directly at ugly or unsightly female genitals would lead to blindness. Many political leaders ordered for the non-carving of vulvas of sculptures depicting the female body.

Preferred vaginal looks by 96% of men


Inner lips

Should not protrude past the outer lips and should not be excessively long or asymmetrical.


Outer lips

Should be well formed and smooth, forming an arched look with very small amount of hair follicles.


Vagina

It should be tight or snug, small in size with a pink colour tone.


Clitoris and hood

Should not be excessively big or small and hood should not be too large or thick.



In times that are more modern the same ideals remain, but they are more subject to female inadequacy of not being able to compete with women who have better-looking genitalia. Many women’s groups tend to impose dictatorial guidelines prohibiting men from viewing female genitalia or for that fact the female body.

Men do have visual discrimination imposed on them by women imposing laws prohibiting men from viewing the female body in the public venue. Even something as simple as female breast exposure is strictly prohibited to men from viewing. Both males and female have breasts and nipples, it is just considered bad for men to view female nudity in public due to visual discrimination as oppose to women who are freer to view a higher amount of male nudity in public.

All this censorship has lead to the creation of the ideal female form, which men seek as a standard in the female body. Since men are visually discriminated against, when it comes to looking at the female body. They seek alternative ways to catch a glimpse of the female form and the easiest and most common medium is magazines featuring female nudes.

Men and boys have been forced to seek these alternatives through forceful censorship, and these alternatives build a mental image of what the ideal standard of female beauty should be. The women featured in magazines do represent women who do not have any abnormalities and are perfect. Consequently men prefer these women as an ideal standard for how women should look when it comes to their bodies.

The more censorship society imposes on males getting access to see the female body; it raises the standard of beauty in the female form. Where men tend to prefer women with big and perky breasts and the vagina needs to be clean and smooth. The inner vaginal lips should not protrude past the outer lips, they should be symmetrical and even. The vagina should be small and tight with a pink hue or pink interior walls to it and lastly the female body should be shapely with beautiful facial features.

The vast majority of men, accounting for 96% of males, have pre set ideal in what the vagina of their partner should look like; the entire male population seeks women who have a vagina with the following characteristics:

The labia majora (outer vaginal lips) should be well formed, they should be perfectly round forming an ached look between the legs. These lips should be free from dimples, warts, crevices, wrinkles and colour discrepancies without excessive hair follicles (men tend to view excessive hair as a male characteristic). The closer a female has her labia majora to these ideals, the more attractive her genitalia become to males, viewing it as something normal.
The labia minora (inner vaginal lips) should not protrude past the outer vaginal lips. Almost all males do not like the look of long inner vaginal lips. Long inner vaginal lips are deformities of the female reproductive organ and men do not like these abnormalities to be present on the female body. The inner lips should reside hidden by the outer lips, they should also be symmetrical in length and shape. Having a labium that is asymmetrical is once again a deformity of the female genitalia. Perfectly developed women will always have symmetrical labia minora, which do no protrude past the outer lips; they will also have labia minora that are smooth and even without excessive folds or crevices and wrinkles. The inner lips should be free from any presence of hair and should take on a pink colour tone, slight colour variations will vary between ethnic groups. The inner lips should not be thick or have darkening at the tips. This ideal is ever so becoming as something that men want and desire in the female form.
The clitoris should not be excessively long, but at the same time, it should not be hidden from view; many men find it arousing to see the clitoris becoming erected as it shows function of the female reproductive organ. There is one increasing ideal that men are seeking and that is being able to see the glans of the clitoris with a small hood. The hood should not fully cover the entire clitoris and it should not be thick or dark with flaps of skin hanging everywhere. Most men prefer a clean even look.
The size of the vagina should be small, almost all men would say that smaller is better, it provides pleasure to men, consequently they prefer a small vagina. They also prefer a small vagina, because genitalia is not the best looking part of the female body, so a small vaginal canal looks better and functions at optimal performance. It also represents health of the female. Healthy women will always have a tight and small vagina as she has maintained her vaginal tone, in essence she has taken care of her vagina and not neglected it. Size does matter, but its female size, which comes into play since many women do suffer a size alteration with their vaginas and most all men seek women with a healthy and tight vaginal tone.
These are the main characteristics that 96% of the male population seek on behalf of women. The ideal standards are becoming harder to reach, because men do place a lot of emphasis in looks and the female vagina is no exception to it. Men do seek women with good-looking genitals that function properly.

Men are not interested in female genitalia, which present deformities, although most men will have intercourse with a woman who presents some degree of labial deformations. They will not seek a long-term relation ship with her because of her abnormal vagina.

There is also the increasing problem that men ask their female counterparts to cover and conceal their vaginas from view either by asking then to wear some panties of some other garment, so they do not see their vagina when making love. This problem is getting so bad because men are not finding women with a vagina that they prefer; over half of the male population have asked their partner to cover their vagina from their view.

Many men do it because their partners vagina is simple not appealing to them one bit, so the emphasis in vaginal looks and function is extremely important to men.
So, what's your perfect vagina?
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The Perfect Vagina (NSFW)

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So, what's your perfect vagina?
One that's right in the middle of a pair of open legs.
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't think anyone thought of my vagina with such knit pickiness. Scary
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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One that's right in the middle of a pair of open legs.
Hmm, not sure if you read everything i said, as you did the roll eyes smiley , but i thought that was implied/literally interpreted by me saying:

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Although the rest of it is rather humourous. I doubt any guy is really that critical

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...so myself and i imagine most other guys, wouldn't really care too much about it.
I find the article mostly humourous because of the guy over analysing and being quite critical in some aspects, where most guys (as you showed yourself) don't really care. The tongue-in-check smilie hopefully showed that i was being facetious with the last comment; which is my temperment for the most part anyway

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I didn't think anyone thought of my vagina with such knit pickiness. Scary
Heh, don't worry, it's only that guy (or women?). Currently, myself and Bill O'Rights have shown not to care too mcuh about it
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I wonder if women are more critical of such things?

I mean, so far you guys don't really care...but I know I definitely have an aesthetic preference ... not super-strict, but I just don't like much stuff hanging out (flesh or hair).
I like them neat. :shrug:
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Old 06-14-2004, 10:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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One that's right in the middle of a pair of open legs.
Agreed! I don't agree with the author's criteria at all! I want to see protruding inner lips, for instance.

I used to have a group of pics of a woman whose inner lips were HUGE, and I really liked them. The images were lost years ago, sorry to say.

And I seriously doubt I'd kick a woman out of bed due to her genital configuration unless she was really a guy. I'd kick a guy out of my bed, you bet.
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I hate to be a sheep, but I do agree with the quoted ideals.

I don't know, I never have liked the large beef curtains...
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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One that's right in the middle of a pair of open legs.
pretty much covered right there. beggars cant be choosers
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have never heard any criticism from men. I do NOT fit the ideals. Things are all just a bit larger than the criteria specify. I have actually heard praise because sometimes it can be harder to see the clit on some women but mine is easily visible. I would not classify it as excessively large though.

Just as certain people have certain preferences for facial features I believe this is probably a personal preference thing.

I prefer them clean and trimmed (or shaved) beyond that I don't care. Except a woman who smokes tastes gross - that's all.
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Old 06-14-2004, 05:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here is an equally humorous page with an opposing opinion.
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well i wouldnt toss a woman out of bed cuz of her vagina...
i like ones where you can see just a lil of the inner lips... those are prolly the best lookin in my opinion...
and well hair... less = better
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Not a big fan of big beef curtains either, but I wouldn't say no to an opportunity as long as she was clean and well trimmed. Pussy is pussy. Warm and pink on the inside.
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I don't think most guys see enough pussies to be able to discriminate thoroughly. Women can get enough men to show their packages for them to be picky if they choose to.
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I've seen pics of women whose vagina's were so foldy that I was a little disconcerted at all that extra skin. Or you'll see a white chick who should have a pretty pink pussy, but she's got like dark brown lips or something. That kinda grosses me out, looks a little turd-like IMO. But those are my only dislikes generally.

Is this gonna start a show your vagina thread? :P
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:33 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm not about to toss out a girl just because of her vulva's appearance, but I do have preferences.

As a poster said above, I think this is really a matter of personal preference. I agree with Redgirl, I don't particularly like the brown lips on a caucasian (gotta be PC) girl...pink is definately better.

Shaved is preferable if I'm going down...and I will be if she's clean.

A show-your-vagina thread could be interesting, it can be difficult to find the pictures to describe my preference in porn.
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I don't think most guys see enough pussies to be able to discriminate thoroughly.
Clearly, more research is needed.
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I don't know why, but this topic really pisses me off. As if we didn't have enough to worry about, being expected to weigh a certain amount and have breasts that are shaped just so and a perky butt and smooth flawless skin and blah blah blah, now we have to worry about whether our pussies are shaped right? Like we have ANY CONTROL OVER THIS!!! I understand that people just find certain things attractive, but honestly...get a life. Beggars can't be choosers. And frankly, all genitalia looks inherently funny.

And if I hear one more person use the term "beef curtains" I'm going to fucking go postal!!!
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Mine must be alright, I've gotten the same exact complement from 2 different guys. Strangly enough.

But if it's not up to your specifications? Well then, fuck you.
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Old 06-15-2004, 12:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I am the Will Rogers of vaginas - I have never met one I didn't like

If you're going to judge - this is another clearly needed case for the pizza scale here.

/waits for Lurkette to come up with a term using the word "pepperoni".

EDITED - Thanks, <b>denim!</b> (I know you know I knew that!)
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Old 06-15-2004, 12:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Wasn't Mark Twain. It was Will Rogers.

Yeah, "meat curtains" has got to be the nastiest term for vaginal lips I've ever heard. It beats "cunt" for crudeness.
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Hmmm...pepperoni, eh? I'll see what I can do

But for sheer comic value, the scrotum has the penis beat hands down.
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Old 06-15-2004, 03:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Fuck that. Ill take what I can get. I havent met one I didnt like. Im sure not going to be complaining. About the only thing Ill say is that at least trimmed is good, but beyond that, its <i>all</i> good.

I just find it funny that there is something called "The Vagina Institute."
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I don't know why, but this topic really pisses me off. As if we didn't have enough to worry about, being expected to weigh a certain amount and have breasts that are shaped just so and a perky butt and smooth flawless skin and blah blah blah, now we have to worry about whether our pussies are shaped right? Like we have ANY CONTROL OVER THIS!!! I understand that people just find certain things attractive, but honestly...get a life. Beggars can't be choosers. And frankly, all genitalia looks inherently funny.

And if I hear one more person use the term "beef curtains" I'm going to fucking go postal!!!
And men don't have size issues that they stress about the majority of their lives? Size matters? Girth matters? Come on lurkette, we have just as much to consider and just as much to have apprehensiveness about.

Me, I am very happy with what I have.

Oh yeah, and I did have 1 instance where I was completely turned off by a woman's beef....I mean mud flaps....er....um.....I really meant to say vagina. It was our first time and she literally had inches of labia, and a very loose vagina. I didn't know which end was up and I got turned off by it.
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Clearly, more research is needed.
You sir, are a bullshitter. Even the biggest pimps around have their limits. I say discriminate if you can, though. It's only fair with all the emphasis on the penis out there. I call it equality.
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I think we now are in need of a thread on just how unattractive mens balls can be. Swinging, hanging sacks don't even compare with a girl having slightly brown lips on her vagina.

Odviously some men need to look into what they have lurking down there before they go overly inspecting women's bodies.
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Old 06-15-2004, 04:11 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The thing to remember here is that men get ribbed from both men and women about their dicks. It happens all the time. Women have rarely had to worry about the appearance of their pussies. The tables have a turned a bit here.
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I think we now are in need of a thread on just how unattractive mens balls can be. Swinging, hanging sacks don't even compare with a girl having slightly brown lips on her vagina.

Odviously some men need to look into what they have lurking down there before they go overly inspecting women's bodies.
Thanks, Nikki

Listen, folks. Bodies are funny looking. All of them. Even the good-looking ones. Quit being so hard on yourselves and the rest of us. A pussy is a pussy. A cock is a cock. The most important part is that it's attached to someone you care about. Why bother classifying and judging them?
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Old 06-15-2004, 04:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Lol man this has to be the funniest thread I have ever read, and to hear some women get upset because we now are focusing on their genitalia instead of ours. Its just classic. Only on tfp. But hey we get it for our dicks so I think its only fair.
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Old 06-15-2004, 05:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think we now are in need of a thread on just how unattractive mens balls can be. Swinging, hanging sacks don't even compare with a girl having slightly brown lips on her vagina.

Odviously some men need to look into what they have lurking down there before they go overly inspecting women's bodies.
Well... actually I am the one who brought up the whole brown vag thing, but I wasn't trying to be critical or mean. I'm sorry if that offended you or anyone else. It's just personal pref and something I remembered seeing in a picture once.

But the whole perfect vagina thing is just silly and there's no such thing anyway. And all of this thread is just bullshitting and I feel should be taken in that vein.

My motto: Bring it on! I'd lick any color pussy (well... maybe not GREEN!)
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Old 06-15-2004, 05:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:00 PM   #34 (permalink)
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And if I hear one more person use the term "beef curtains" I'm going to fucking go postal!!! [/B]
Thank you darlin lurkette! If a man said "beef curtains" to me, he'd be making it with Miss Rosy alone again for the night!

Yeah, the bozos forget that when we're hot and slick with desire -all those folds get swollen and erect for action, sensation and yes, our clits swell up to much larger size because we're ready to welcome their dumb little cocks into our deep dark folds of lusty satisfaction.
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You sir, are a bullshitter. Even the biggest pimps around have their limits. I say discriminate if you can, though. It's only fair with all the emphasis on the penis out there. I call it equality.
Hah! Caught me.

The thing is, we seem to be the ones emphasising the penis. In my experience, the women are happy with what they get, so it's not a big deal in reality. Well, my reality, anyway. Others may be a bit less secure on that issue.
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Okay then let's discuss the beauty of the penis and his compadres, the balls. I, for one - dislike those that bend in the middle or don't get real hard. Warts are a definite no-no. And c'mon....Forget the jewelry. I'd rather not worry about swallowing 'bling bling' by accident!

So WTF, yes, I am a real spoiled brat most all of the time. A nice big hard cock is a thing of beauty & do appreciate the balls! I prefer the cock circumsized and neatly trimmed. Ha !
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One that's right in the middle of a pair of open legs.
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I don't really care. I'm not a vaginist. All vaginas have their own quality. Like, the more flap, the sweeter the trap. The tighter the hole, better for the pole. lol, sry.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:53 PM   #39 (permalink)
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when we're hot and slick with desire -all those folds get swollen and erect for action, sensation and yes, our clits swell up to much larger size because we're ready to welcome their dumb little cocks into our deep dark folds of lusty satisfaction.
Uh....wow, that stopped the thought processes for a few seconds, in a good way...

Isn't it nice how degrading men can be by objectifing women, or body parts of women? Men are crude, rude and disgusting, most of the time. Don't get involved with one of those unless you are okay with that. I would have thought the enlightened among us would refrain from using 'meat curtains' just out of courtesy, if nothing else. Not complimentary at all.

Scrotum and penis are hilarious, still. I mean how wimpy is the word 'penis'? That's why we have so many other, more manly names for it, like 'manhood'. That sounds more appropriate.
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:06 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I for the longest time I did not like the way mine looked. I like them to be pink and smooth not to much skin though.
But I will take any kitty that comes my way if, she is nice to me and my kitty.
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