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Old 05-14-2004, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stupid teenagers can't keep it in their pants!

I just found out that my little sister, 15, lost her virginity to a boy two years older then her. My sister, Alex, is a beautiful, athletic and popular girl in her highschool and shes dating what I would call a "Shooter Mcgavin" (reference to happy gilmore) who is a cocky jerk.

Anyways, I HATE BOYS! Stupid horny losers....

Why is it that girls date stupid horney losers?

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Old 05-14-2004, 01:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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15 and 17? That's not bad. Losing virginity isn't the worst thing.
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Old 05-14-2004, 01:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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women always go for the cocky guys.. they get bored of the guys that treat them well.. at least until they get older.

and whats so wrong with loosing your virginity. I lost mine when I was 17. I wish I had lost it sooner but was too shy.
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Old 05-14-2004, 02:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe you should try and see some of the good things that your sister sees in him, it is after all, her decision.

My younger brother's girlfriend is 14/15 (i forget, but gr. 9) and they just slept together, i mean, i think that's too young personally but i support him because i think she's a great girl and they do really well together.

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Old 05-14-2004, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it's wrong if it's with a guy who is only after sex and if the girl will regret it when she finds out he's a jerk off, and there are a lot of guys like that...ones that go after yonger girls especially.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i don't think it's really an age thing, as i know tons of my friends who sleep with jerks now, years after losing their virginity.
i find it's generally that either the girl doesn't know that she deserves better and has major esteem issues, or that she thinks that the guy is somehow a good guy. i would talk to your sister, cause either way you guys are obviously disagreeing here.
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Old 05-14-2004, 04:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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She has to make her own mistakes. My sister was 15 when she dated a 25 year old. He has been in and out of jail, and a few days after she gave him a blowjob, he just stopped calling. My sister was heartbroken, but it taught her a lesson: be careful.

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Old 05-14-2004, 05:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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it's wrong if it's with a guy who is only after sex and if the girl will regret it when she finds out he's a jerk off, and there are a lot of guys like that...ones that go after yonger girls especially.
This is him. I've met him. Hes the sar of his baseball team blah blah blah and he is going to use her and throw her away. Its a stupid choice. I could see if she had been dating this boy for a while and that he was a cool guy. Hes a dink, she was told it was the thing to do, they did it, and now he's being a jerk about it.
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Old 05-14-2004, 05:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This is him. I've met him. Hes the sar of his baseball team blah blah blah and he is going to use her and throw her away. Its a stupid choice. I could see if she had been dating this boy for a while and that he was a cool guy. Hes a dink, she was told it was the thing to do, they did it, and now he's being a jerk about it.
Then it's simple, tell him if he makes your sister cry, you're gonna make him cry.
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Old 05-14-2004, 05:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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lol who said guys are the only who are horny.. sheesh haha.. i was 12(well 2 months shy of 13) when i lost my virginity to my then gf who had just turned 15...
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Old 05-14-2004, 05:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Then it's simple, tell him if he makes your sister cry, you're gonna make him cry.

Oh I did... [laughs]

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lol who said guys are the only who are horny.. sheesh haha.. i was 12(well 2 months shy of 13) when i lost my virginity to my then gf who had just turned 15...
She isn't like that. She is very focused on baskeball and vollyball and she is focused on school. Now i'm not just saying she is the best looking girl in her highschool, she is. She is liked by all the boys and she was set up on a date with this loser. She liked him and they dated for like two months when he convinced her to have sex with him. I'm gonna beat that kid silly, hurt her or not.
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Old 05-14-2004, 06:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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According to my human growth and development class, the average age for losing virginity in this country is 14 for boys and 15.5 for girls. Also, the age of first period is getting younger and younger.
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Old 05-14-2004, 06:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"According to my human growth and development class, the average age for losing virginity in this country is 14 for boys and 15.5 for girls. Also, the age of first period is getting younger and younger."

I seriously doubt the *average* age of losing virginity is 14 and 15.
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Old 05-14-2004, 06:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think it's maybe the average of TEENAGERS...
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Old 05-14-2004, 08:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If I had a younger sister who had a boyfriend do this to her, I would have warned him when they started going out not to hurt her, then if he did, I would allow him to find out what his asshole tastes like.

I wish i had younger siblings I could protect, I've just got a sister who didnt really care, and an extremely affeminate wuss of a brother
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Old 05-14-2004, 09:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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If I had a younger sister who had a boyfriend do this to her, I would have warned him when they started going out not to hurt her, then if he did, I would allow him to find out what his asshole tastes like.

I wish i had younger siblings I could protect, I've just got a sister who didnt really care, and an extremely affeminate wuss of a brother
That's why I'm not so sure I'd make a good father. If I ever had a daughter, I'd probably be so overprotective that most of my parenting would be done while serving consecutive life sentences. If I had a son who ever hurt a girl like that, I'd probably personally invite the girl's father and older brothers over to join me while my son was busy sitting at the kitchen table finishing up his last will and testament...
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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She isn't like that. She is very focused on baskeball and vollyball and she is focused on school. Now i'm not just saying she is the best looking girl in her highschool, she is. She is liked by all the boys and she was set up on a date with this loser. She liked him and they dated for like two months when he convinced her to have sex with him. I'm gonna beat that kid silly, hurt her or not.
then by all means fuck him up! haha
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I just found out that my little sister, 15, lost her virginity to a boy two years older then her. My sister, Alex, is a beautiful, athletic and popular girl in her highschool and shes dating what I would call a "Shooter Mcgavin" (reference to happy gilmore) who is a cocky jerk.



Anyways, I HATE BOYS! Stupid horny losers....

Why is it that girls date stupid horney losers?

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Look at the bright side.... she's not pregnant for this jerk. And hopefully you can trust she was smart enough to have him use a condom.

If you're that pissed off now, imagine what it would've been like if she told you she was pregnant for him and wanted to keep the baby.
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Old 05-15-2004, 08:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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You also have to remember that it wasn't only the boy's fault. Your sister lacked the sense to say NO to that jerk. And I'm sure she's been taught by the school/you/parents that you should say no to sex unless you're completely ready.

So, I think at most, you should get both of them together and talk about the problems of just having sex with whoever- beating up the guy will do nothing but bring resent for you from your sister.
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Old 05-15-2004, 10:53 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Wait, wait hold on a second! Teenagers are having sex now?!
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Old 05-15-2004, 12:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It could have be worse.

She could have lost it to me.
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Old 05-15-2004, 12:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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We, the stupid horney losers of the world, thank your sister.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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We, the stupid horney losers of the world, thank your sister.

Wow, you make me angry...

The worst part is that her boyfriend told me and I asked her about it, she said nothing had happened.... She lied to me, when I asked if she was telling me the truth, She told me that it wasn't my business.
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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She told me that it wasn't my business.
I think she's right about that..
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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My little sister was fourteen.

With a nineteen year old.

I fucking flew off on her. But I came to terms with it. That was a really long time ago, and she's still with him, so I guess it wasn'tjust sex.
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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My little sister was fourteen.

With a nineteen year old.

I fucking flew off on her. But I came to terms with it. That was a really long time ago, and she's still with him, so I guess it wasn'tjust sex.
Glad to hear it, although I probably would have broken both his legs, so he wouldn't be going anywhere regardless.
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Wow, you make me angry...
Not my intent. Young horney girls are going to be having sex with older losers for a looong time. That's just how it is.

Are you looking to assign blame here? Blame your parents. They taught her her lack of morals.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:16 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Not my intent. Young horney girls are going to be having sex with older losers for a looong time. That's just how it is.

Are you looking to assign blame here? Blame your parents. They taught her her lack of morals.
Not my intent also, in concern to the blame comment. The fact of the matter is, I came on for some advice, and your comment was like poking a pissed off bear. I'm not happy with this and that comment was useless. Thanks
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Old 05-16-2004, 04:29 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You also have to remember that it wasn't only the boy's fault. Your sister lacked the sense to say NO to that jerk. And I'm sure she's been taught by the school/you/parents that you should say no to sex unless you're completely ready.
That's exactly right. It's not as if the guy raped your sister, it was obviously consentual, which means they both made the decision to do the act
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Old 05-16-2004, 05:05 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Most 15 year old girls don't have the sense to consent - it wouldn't be too hard to talk her into it --

While your sister has a point, that it's not your business. Price Charming made it your business by telling you. If' he's bragging about it - -then he surely doesn't have the maturity to be having sex with anyone -- If a person fucks and tells- -they they really and truly ought to be keeping it in their pants.
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Old 05-16-2004, 05:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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does your parents know shes having sex????
She needs to be put on birth control, before she gets knocked up with a baby, that she does not know what to do with.
I don't want my future kids to have babys of have sex until there married but I dout that will happen so I will try and keep a watchfull eye on them,and keep them as young as I can. I was not able to date tell I was 16. I am glad my parents kept a watchfull eye on me.
She could get a bad rep.
I don't think thats a good thing I knew all the girls that had sex before and I was told about what girl was easy what girl was a slut. That could happen to her I hope it doesent.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Most 15 year old girls don't have the sense to consent - it wouldn't be too hard to talk her into it --
When I was 15, I knew that I had no business having sex. When I had sex, I was 17, and I knew what I was doing.
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I just have to put my .02 in here. Being a younger sister myself, with a protective older brother (and two step brothers who are older which would be willing to protect me under particular circumstances).

If you fly off the handle at the guy and your sister, you're more than likely going to lose the relationship with your sister. My brother and I have a very open relationship and have talked about sex and all that stuff since I hit high school. It's very helpful to have him, although I'm a virgin, I can ask him any questions I want. He's always been there for me if I needed to know about ANYTHING. I guess openess on your part would really help here.

As for her having sex, if she said yes - then it's her choice. You should just be a supporting hand in the situation. Talk to her about birth control, STDs and the like.

She already had sex. You're not going to stop her from doing it again. So endorse saftey for when she does have sex.
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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My younger brother would have freaked if I had sex with a jerk at any time. We talked a lot about sex and I knew he had a better idea of who was a jerk and who wasn't. He knew guys better than me. He listened when I talked to him about guys and if he had a problem with a guy I knew I could ask him why and get a logical reason. It all depends on your relationship with your sis. Listen to her. Don't judge her for her choice. It's done, she can't change it, and making her feel bad about it is going to make her tune you out. Do talk to her about what made her make that choice and what she wants in a guy.

I agree some young boys are so stupid. But hey some don't grow out of it. Just help your sister educate herself and make better choices in the future.

I know what your saying about horny boys. I have one girl who comes to stay at my house every now and then. She's 11 and starting to ask questions about sex and things. Just last Friday she was telling me about a boy in her class. He sounds like a jerk. He was joking around about sex and "peeking" in his pants, and bragging about um size. I asked her what she thought of him. Her response - he's funny - then she paused and I just waited - then she finished with - and WIERD and she didn't like him. I think she was waiting to see my evaluation of the guy before she gave her final one. When I let her decide and then "approved" - well I don't think she'll be his first "victim" at least. She's made her decision - I didn't make it for her - she'll stick with it. Young girls are all about acceptance and will do almost anything for it. Support and accept her and perhaps she'll turn to you next time she's got a tuff decision.
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Not my intent also, in concern to the blame comment. The fact of the matter is, I came on for some advice, and your comment was like poking a pissed off bear. I'm not happy with this and that comment was useless. Thanks
Then you missed my point entirely.

Guys are horney sex machines. It's interesting that we can objectify women enmasse until it comes to one we care about, like a little sister.

If this were someone else's situation, it's not likely you would even have commented. This is the double standard that exists.

I did give you good advice, but it angered you. Let me restate it so that even an "angry bear" can understand: It's none of your business. She's going to make her own decisions. You can try to guide her, but you can not direct her, and most importantly you can not protect her from her decisions.

My comments are not useless.
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Then you missed my point entirely.

Guys are horney sex machines. It's interesting that we can objectify women enmasse until it comes to one we care about, like a little sister.

If this were someone else's situation, it's not likely you would even have commented. This is the double standard that exists.

I did give you good advice, but it angered you. Let me restate it so that even an "angry bear" can understand: It's none of your business. She's going to make her own decisions. You can try to guide her, but you can not direct her, and most importantly you can not protect her from her decisions.

My comments are not useless.

I'm not a sex machine, I don't objectify women, in fact, I always taught my sister to date a guy that likes her for her, not just because she looks like a goddess. She knows better.

If this was another person's post, I would tell him that It's ok to be outraged but don't ruin the relationship. Thats what I'm trying to do. If she were having sex, I'd be dissapointed but since she's dating a jerkoff and lied to me, I'm pissed.

And as maleficent said, He made it my bussiness by bragging. He made it my bussiness by telling me that she was the best sex he's ever had. This guy is a player and It's my bussiness because I don't want her to get hurt! Is that ok? Because I think caring about my sister is ok...

An angry bear doesn't listen, it freaks out. And your comments in general arn't bad, just the first one you made, it didn't help me out, it just made me more upset.
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Did you ever consider the fact that if your sister denies that it happened, she might be telling the truth?

I know when I was in high school these asshair jocks were always spouting off about making out with girls they had never gotten within 10 yards of at a party.
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Did you ever consider the fact that if your sister denies that it happened, she might be telling the truth?

I know when I was in high school these asshair jocks were always spouting off about making out with girls they had never gotten within 10 yards of at a party.
No she told me it was true after lieing to me for about a week...
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Old 05-20-2004, 09:58 AM   #39 (permalink)
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punkmusicfan21 although I dont like your name (just teasing) I am with you 100%,
and to Peetster I am NOT a horny sex machine as you so elegently put it, I have had sex in the past but I am not going to do so again until I am married. It's been around 2 years since I have had sex and I have had lots of oportunities to do so, does this sound like a horny sex machine to you?

I feel that people these days are having sex at way to young an age, and 2 years may not be that big of a deal right? well that all depends, if you are 15 and the person is 17 that is a big deal, im not certain but isnt that like grade 9 vs. grade 11? or grade 10 vs. grade 12? anyways when you are young like that and in school even 1 school year apart can make a huge difference in maturity and personality. plus this guy does sound like a jerk, and as much as young people like to deny the effects of peer pressure they are Tremendous factors in their life. If he (an older boy, seems cool and grown up just because he is a senior, or almost one) says something to her and keeps pressuring her you know for a fact she is almost guaranteed to crack and give in.

now what i sujest is that you try and talk to her, brother to sister, very open talk. You guys are going to be with eachother for the rest of your lives and should be able to talk about anything at all, try and start that with her now. Just talk to her calmly and try to get her to see things from an older more mature point of view. (you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, i can show you a door but only you can walk through it, blah blah yada yada)

And I am very sorry if this is hard to understand, its a little after 3 am here and i need to be going to bed. I hope this helps you and goodnight
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