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Old 12-24-2003, 12:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Controling guys

I guess this is more for the girls.

When you start dating a guy, does he tell you who you can and can't hang out with (as far as guy friends...)

I don't do it, and that apparently pissed my ex-gf off, which I just found out tonight and it is bugging me is all.

Eh oh well, I dunno. Just curious.
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Old 12-24-2003, 03:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why the hell should that bother her!?
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Old 12-24-2003, 03:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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is she fukn 16 yrs old or something??
Tell her straight out (if u wanna b in a serious relationship) that "no-one is going to be in 'command' of this relationship... not me, OR you, i dont order u around, and u dont order me around, ill give advice just like u should, and we decide on each others opinions on how much we agree or dissagree and how much it means to us"


hope this helps??
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Old 12-24-2003, 03:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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She's warped. If she was upset because she thought it meant you didn't care, she has some rather strange notions about healthy relationships (unless both partners are into the dom/sub thing). Shrug your shoulders and carry on.
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Old 12-24-2003, 04:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I had a partner like that once, recently. I wasn't fussed with who she hung out with and she took it as a sign of me being too relaxed about our relationship. She thought that if I really cared then I'd be jealous and get upset about that sort of thing.
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Old 12-24-2003, 06:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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A friend of mine once dated a (psycho) girl who tested all the boundaries of their relationship--including who she could hang out with, flirt with, fool around with, etc. She didn't do those things because she wanted to, exactly, she did them to test him.

This has echoes of the same thought process.
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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if a guy tells me at ANY point of a relationship who I can or cant see HE IS HISTORY
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Old 12-24-2003, 09:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It isn't a healthy sign for the relationship if the guy Does say who she can and can't see. When either one starts to control like that it can get really messed up too quick. If she was looking for your advice on the friends she had and wanted to know someone elses perspective on who are better/healthier people to be around then that's one thing. I hope she can learn that what you did is the right way.
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Old 12-24-2003, 12:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had a partner like that once, recently. I wasn't fussed with who she hung out with and she took it as a sign of me being too relaxed about our relationship. She thought that if I really cared then I'd be jealous and get upset about that sort of thing.

Same...Im glad that was a past relationship....I just found out yesterday that's how she felt. I was curious what everyone else had to say.

So no relationship now...which is fine by me... for the time.
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Old 12-24-2003, 12:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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if a girl tells me at ANY point of a relationship who I can or cant see SHE IS HISTORY
well put.
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Old 12-24-2003, 06:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'd never dream of telling my girlfriend who she could talk to or hang out with - it'd be downright rude and disrespectful. I trust her completely, so if she goes and hangs out with guy friends, I may be a little jealous that she's not spending time with me, but I'm not worried about "oh god, she's off with some guys and could be cheating on me."

I think your girlfriend has issues, and you need to sit down and have a serious talk with her about it.
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Old 12-24-2003, 07:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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any man that treats a woman they claim to love like that can go to hell and any woman looking for that is screwed up


be glad the insucre ass is a ex


move on to some one you can trust and who trust you
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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<----I am a controlling guy, not an insure one, big difference.
For what is worth, she wants me to control her, is now just a matter of degree. And I can tell you its very hard work.
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm with vveronica and juanvaldes.... if some guy tells me who to hang out with, and can't trust me... what the hell is the point??
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Old 12-24-2003, 10:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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<----I am a controlling guy, not an insure one, big difference.
For what is worth, she wants me to control her, is now just a matter of degree. And I can tell you its very hard work.
Out of curiosity, what is the distinction between a controlling guy and an insecure one? Can you give an example where a guy is "controlling" but not insecure?

Thanks.
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Old 12-28-2003, 10:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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A relationship should be based on mutual trust. Control is a way of compensating for lack of trust/security. I'm a guy, and if a girl was trying to control me, I would run, not walk, away from the relationship, but I would also expect her to do the same if I was trying to control her.

But thats just me. Your situation describes a girl dependent on the control of others... I dunno what happened to her in the past, but it sounds like she's having trouble coping with independence. Or is just wacked in the head.
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Old 12-29-2003, 03:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sounds like she is taking this for lack of interest in her. This does sound like something a 16 to 19 year old would do. Just play it cool. I used to bend over backwards to change myself for women when I was dating just to have the relationship fall apart when I might say something that I would normally say (but she didn't want to hear). I found someone that could accept me for me. It took some rocky times before she figured me out, but it is so much easier when you find that person.
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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She´s wako. If she didn´t like your friends then she shouldn´t hang out with them, but why would she care if you did. Some people are just crazy.
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I dated/known chicks like this…you would be surprised how many there are.

I am very casual when it comes to the guys my girl friend hangs out with for a damn good reason: just because I am dating doesn’t mean I am going to stop hanging out with all the girls I know. Therefore if I would hate being told that I cant hang out with girls I knew for half my life then I am not going to do the same.

So I would assume that these chicks are using the reverse argument. They don’t want me hanging out with any other girls therefore they expect me to think the same. I say: no dice.
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Old 12-29-2003, 08:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Depends on the guy. If I know them and they're genuinely nice guys then it's no problem. If I know them and they're total asshole, or they're guys she met on the net, or spends more time with the above more than me then I make a fuss.
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Old 12-29-2003, 10:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When you start dating a guy, does he tell you who you can and can't hang out with (as far as guy friends...)
(totally out of context)
dumbnut, you dating guys?

Just WHERE do you find these girls? This the one with the whip?
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Old 12-30-2003, 01:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Bobby,


(totally out of context)
dumbnut, you dating guys?

Just WHERE do you find these girls? This the one with the whip?
Big M, Actually that was the mermaid that told me that. She is pissed @ me ( you can see my other post). I don't care...lol no loss for me, well there is... less confusion.
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Old 12-30-2003, 01:44 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Don't rush it. Meet every woman you can. Learn relationship skills. Enjoy life. Think healthy. Get educated. Put some $$ away. Do volunteer work (not court ordered btw, ROFLMAO). Buy real estate. Start a small business. Get a real estate license. Learn to cook. There are many things that can take you where you are going.

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Old 12-30-2003, 05:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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God... that's like the dumbest thing I have ever heard... Walk away, and don't look back.. really, or you might get turned into a pillar of salt or something.
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Old 12-30-2003, 10:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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On the other hand...

I'm not advocating being controlling, don't get me wrong. That said...

Not wanting your girlfriend to hang out with certain people is certainly within reason. For example, an ex boyfriend. Or lets say, some guy you know is very, very charming and whatnot, it's very fair to not want your girlfriend to hang out with them.

I am of the opinion if you are dating someone, you should both cut back on your friends of the opposite sex, seems kind of like common courtesey to me. I'm not saying your best lifelong friends, but more of the casual type aquaintences.
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Old 12-30-2003, 10:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I reread my post, I didn't mean to make it seem like only women are guilty, men do it too no doubt. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 12-31-2003, 07:24 AM   #27 (permalink)
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It may just be an overall impression she has of you instead of a specific complaint. What I mean to say is, she may want more leadership outta you and the only tangible area she can verbalize is this 'who can I hang with' thing.

Nice guys get seen as spineless alot of times and often taken advantage of. Even though it takes alot more guts to be a nice guy than to be a jerk.
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Old 12-31-2003, 11:54 AM   #28 (permalink)
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if a guy tells me at ANY point of a relationship who I can or cant see HE IS HISTORY
Right on V. This girl is whacked.
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Old 12-31-2003, 02:49 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 12-31-2003, 03:17 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Out of curiosity, what is the distinction between a controlling guy and an insecure one? Can you give an example where a guy is "controlling" but not insecure?

Thanks.
it's a lifestyle... fits into the BDSM category. It's definately not run of the mill stuff.
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Old 01-02-2004, 01:52 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Aww Hell Naw1 Boo and Fishking...u are both wrong...that is MY new wheeler.

Like I said before i ain't trippin over it. i was just curious on everyones opinion.

Have a nice day and a wonderful new year.
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Old 01-03-2004, 03:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Your new wheeler? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to look for a place to live. You can't even pay your bills. Your one messed up kid. Tell everyone how your trying to screw your parents.
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:56 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Controlling behaviors can be difficult to spot and they can be insidious,slowly over time eroding what on the surface appeared to be a healthy relationship.

Controlling people often have great fears over their own internal landscape,unble to deal with their own affect they attempt to control people,places and things around them.Such folks are also often at high risk for substance abuse issues.

Controllers gain a foothold often by getting their partner's to begin doubting and questioning their own value and worth.They feed their partner's double messages and are often master's at delivering insult disgused as a compliement or employing the use of sarcastic humor.Passive/aggresive forms of behavior are also common.
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