mystic511

Here it is boys. This is the place to tell those girls what exactly they have to do to get you to notice them, ask them out, or hook you into marriage.

List all the things you that a girl would have to do to win your heart.

Please, for the sake of being creative, let's avoid stupid rude points that are obvious that every guy would like. You know, shit like "Give good head", "Walk around naked", "Get drunk and put yourself in position on my bed".

I want honest things that you love girls to do. Things that you look for in a wife or whatever that if this girl was interested in you, how would she win you over?

You can be funny or serious, whatever you feel more comfortable with!

I may use this in an article, or maybe as my presentation in Communications class. Any help is appreciated!

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maxwell_1888

Don't wear too much make-up, I prefer girls who look natural instead of fucking stupid.

If you just come up to me and have a normal conversation on maybe something we both like then, we must have SOMETHING in common.

bparker805

I like it when women approach me. I hang out in the bar scene a lot and just see some awful behavior in some women so the "game playing" doesnt work at all. Honesty is a huge plus but its a tough to handle properly. And she has to understand football...

soxsfans

I like natural breasts, don't get implants.

Irresistable when the nips are popping too.

Leviathan[NCV]

Play hard to get. Nothing better than actually having to work for it.

Averett

Okay guys... Im a girl. I've been told many times that I'm attractive. I like sports, I drink, I give good massages. Why in the hell am I single?


I'm not desperate.. I'd just rather not go through life along...

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Averett
Being a guy, I have never been able to comprehend your problem. Most any guy will say "yes" if you tell him you think he is cute and you want to go out to dinner with him. Almost any girl could get laid or a date almost any time you want to. It is much harder for us guys because we always want it and you gals are a lot more picky than guys. Find a guy you think you might like and proposition him. If things work out then you won't be single any more. How can women not know this about guys? Ask and ye shall receive. Aren't I right guys?

Averett

I think half the problem lies in the whole approaching. Society is wired that the guy has to approach the girl. So us girls sit and wait. And guys are scared of rejection. So we all just sit here hoping things happen, and nothing ever does.

I've never approached a guy. I'm too shy for my own good at times!

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Ganguro

well now that you know what's wrong.. go out there and hit on some guys! Hopefully we wont see you in a few weeks complaining about said guy

kofspades

Don't play "hard to get" with shy guys. They will not play along. You say "No" and they're gone. They won't try again. I know from experience.

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anti fishstick

do guys like it when girls they randomly meet give them their phone number? a guy on the elevator talked to me about the weather the other day.... darn i missed my chance. ;P

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Johnny Rotten

If implants are what you want, please go ahead, but I don't recommend the kind that makes them look like super globes.

It's okay to get flustered. Most guys find it charming.

You don't need as much make-up as you think. It might make you feel prettier, but there's an upper limit after which you're wasting your time in the bathroom.

Guys are suckers for bare legs. You don't have to have model legs to get a guy's attention. His imagination and libido will supply whatever you might lack. This goes for your whole body. All you have to do is be confident. Even *acting* confident works.

After that...You may not agree with this, since your field works in statistics, but the truth is: Every guy has something different about a girl that turns his crank, in the long run. I think whatever common string you can find among us will be too generic to do much with.

Personally, I dig it when a girl is attracted to me because of my own mental and physical qualities, not because I make her feel attractive. To love someone because they make you feel lovable is hollow. Don't be in love with the way someone makes you feel.

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mirevolver

Engage me in an intelligent conversation and I will definatly want to get to know you.

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G5_Todd

here is the simple answer "Ask us out." gonna sound ghey here but I don't know a single guy that wouldn't be (ghey part) flattered to be asked out be a cute girl. The only way I could see him saying no is if he is currently in a relationship. I know I have never turned down a date.

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GoldenOuroboros

A point for Averrett

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giblfiz

as Averrett has pointed out, its socially wired so that girls don't approach guys. For all the guys out there however nervous you feel approaching a girl, she would feel at least that threefold aproching you.

That said, If you approach a guy, and ask him for his number he will respond positively. Now since your not going to do that, and we all know it here are some things to try.

Flirt in a super sledgehammer style. Guys are very bad at reading symbols, so your going to need to be really blatant.
Try starting a conversation about signs that people give when they are really attracted to someone, and then giving all the signs. (if you don't know them some are playing with your hair, blinking a lot, touching the other person, staring in wrapped attention when they speak)

Try touching them often, and in very flirtatious ways. Though it seems inappropriate there is _no_ risk of rejection, so even the terminally shy can try this.

Make sure you drop in conversation that you don't currently have a boyfriend, and that you wish you did. A nice simple sentence that our canine brains could follow would be "I don't get out to the movies as much as I would like to, I wish I had a guy who would take me out to them"

Possibly the most powerful thing you can do among these is single out the guy you want, and get him away from both his friends and yours. Ask him if he will come to get something from your car with you, or walk you to your car (its all noble and stuff, as a lady you can basically ask for a protective escort anywhere) I lot of guys are too nervous to ask out a chick in front other people because if they get shot down it will be a public display.

Contrary to what Leviathan[NCV] says _do not_ play hard to get. Their are a lot of very shy guys who hardly have the ego to ask once, much less multiple times. If your looking for a husband/long term lover there is some merit to forcing him to pursue you, but thats after your already going out, and generally not what this thread is about.

Finally, there are a whole lot of places full of very desperate guys. (I know I am one) Almost any sort of technical meeting will have a lot of guys, of them many will not be desirable, but many will be quite cute. Most of them will be nice. Very very few of them will be into head-games, and most will be shy.
Try the local Linux Users Group. Hell if your going to do that you even have a pre-built zero risk semi-date you can come on with "Hi, I was thinking of installing Linux, but I want to make sure that I don't mess anything up, do you think you could come over to my house and help me?"

Oh yeah, I hear a lot of people also find their true love at the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms) Hell from what I have seen and heard (two freinds getting married to SCA girls) its like club med in 12th century garb for misfits (such as myself, I really need to start attending)

Thats about all I have as far as ideas. Remember if you ask them out they will say yes, so you could always try that.

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Regziever

Okay.. Here goes:

1. Approach me, smile and say hi!
2. If I smile back, make some kind of remark about the weather. Otherwise start looking for another game.
3. If I answer back, Rip my clothes off and rape me! If I don't answer, start looking for another game.

(Oh and btw.. This guide is only for girls, no boys, NO BOYS!!!!!)

Hehe...


The best tips I can give is to be yourself, a guy no matter how drunk or high notices when a woman is faking. If you fake it means that the man stops caring about your personality.

As well as guys don't really care that much about wheight, hair, makeup, clothes, shoes, size of breasts and that stuff. We're much happier if you feel happy with your body (cuz that means more and better sex ).

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mystic511

So here's what i'm getting so far that seems to be a general trend:

1) Girls should try making the first move sometimes
2) Girls should be natural (lighten up on fake boobs, lesser on make-up)
3) Girls who know how to hold a conversation that guys would be interested in.

I guess i should throw out what I would like girls to do since i did start this thread. Hopefully it'll stir ideas.

I like girls who

-Cook for me randomly like baking me cookies.
-call me before they go to bed.
-hold onto my arm when we're in public.
-play video games, even if they're just cheezy games like tetris.
-will take the time to experience the things that you like (this one girl i know always asks me questions about cars and she gets so many brownie points from me)
-Laugh at my corny jokes.

These are the things I'd like more girls to do. They're also things I look at when I'm scoping out potentials.

Anything else you guys would like girls to do to win you over?

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rogue49

um...even though I'm a flirt...I'm terrible at asking out ladies.

I'd say the most ladies I've gone with have asked me out,
or have just made it very obvious to me that they are interested.

And subtle actions and words go right over my head,
or if they are ambiguous, I won't act on them, because I don't know if they are just being friendly or not.

* I'd say be very obvious about it.
* Try asking out a guy
* Just consider exchanging phone numbers at least
* Be friendly, a nice smile does wonders
* Be interested in me and what I do, and in turn I'll be interested in you & your life
* It doesn't really matter what you wear, but have a certain confidence with your body, an open one
If you're sending signals that say, "don't bother me", then you won't be approached. Send signals like "I'm good, and I know it"
* And don't just go for the uber-cute guys, they are used to ladies fawning over them, and tend to take girls for granted.

Hope to see you all out on the singles scene.

NotMinus

Id say the problem with everyone is getting over rejection. I used to care and then came to relize there is really, no way, a women I don't know and probaly will never see agian can hurt me and I don't do something, im going to regret it later. I find that most women are very postive about the whole thing, they like men who are confident and just cut to the chase, even if they are in a relationship most people usualy enjoy the complament and attention.

quantumburnz

I agree that women should deffinately look natural, after a while, too much fake stuff just becomes unnatural. I think it's attractive if the girl does give some kind of play.

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Averett

Well.... So guess what guys? I met someone last night

I went out with some friends of mine, and at the bar I noticed a group of guys sort of checking me and my friend out. Of course, my gaze went towards the brown haired guy. A little later on I was at the jukebox looking at songs and the blond guy in the group came over talking to us. I was friendly, a bit flirty, but waiting for the friend to come over. Sure enough, over he comes. I switched my attention to him. We talked awhile, and at one point he looks over at my group of friends (there were 4 other guys with me) and says "So which one of those guys is your boyfriend?" I'm thinking "yay! he's not going to ask that unless he's interested." and tell him that none are, all just friends. He's happy. Asks me and my friend Liz to join us at another bar.

Now, here is when the night got really interesting. We get to the other bar, park the car and start walking to the bar. 4 young guys walk towards us, and one of em snatches my bag from my hand. Bob (the blond) takes off after them, and Matt and I look for a cop. Find the cop, we get in the car. Find the snatchers little buddies, then the snatcher himself. I ID him, and we fill out some paper work in the car and wait around a bit. Then we hear over the scanner that they found my bag! Only thing missing was my cash, $25.

While in the cop car Matt held my hand and put his arm around me a few times. All good times. Then we went back to his apartment where we got to know eachother a bit better Left there around 5:30. Got his number, he's got mine. I told him to give me a call, he said he would today.

So now I pose a question. We have eachothers number. I asked him to give me a call. Like I said, he said he would today. So if he doesnt... How long do I wait to call him?

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CityOfAngels

Make-up = BIG no no

I like natural breasts (and other parts of the body) rather than fake ones.

Make sure you make eye contact.

Don't seem too slutty, unless you're just looking for a bed-mate; in that case, flash him, ask him if he likes to get head, ask him about the whole "fuck buddy" thing.

Wear clothing that accentuates your ass, legs, breasts, back arch, and face.

If you have long hair, wear it down.

Avoid farting, picking your nose, burping, etc.

Listen to the guy's music as well as yours.

Make sure he KNOWS that you find him sexually attractive and that you want him. Sexual harassment cases have put a damper on us guys as far as spontaneious "making the move" goes.

Be calm.

Oh yeah: Don't be a bitch.

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Halx

I think more girls should at least say "Hi" to guys they like. That whole game with waiting for the guy to come up to you will only attract self-assured assholes.

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zodiac3k

always be open

and make SURE you tell a guy when you like him! don't tease

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constant

Uh.. I think all girls are pretty adept at getting a guy. Just because they are shy and don't like to do it, it doesn't mean they are afraid to.

Come on, we're men, it doesn't take much to pique our interest in a young, attractive female.

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analog

1. Make moves of your own. Many of the truly decent guys out there are too shy or (because they're decent guys) aren't forward enough to engage a girl in conversation, especially since there are many girls who will shoot a man down with no respect, thus leaving him even MORE unwilling to try again. Once the approach has been made, most guys will see that as a great gesture, and will be a lot more forward themselves.

2. You don't need make-up as <b>often</b> as you think you do, as <b>much</b> as you think you do, and when you wake up in the morning next to us, don't feel awkward because you're not wearing any. If a guy is going to love you and want to be with you "forever", he's looking for the NATURAL you. Not the "club" or "bar" you he sees under all the make-up and push-up bras and styled hair.

3. Long hair is long for a reason. Leave it down. I've yet to see ANY girl who looks better with her long hair tied up.

4. It's important to make sure the guy knows what you want, and that you like what he's doing. Guys can only be so assertive in today's world of harrassment charges, and many are scared to go too fast- and many of you girls won't tell a guy how he's doing, or even to keep going if he starts stalling. Most guys stall out because they aren't getting enough (or sometimes ANY) input as to whether you like what they're doing.

5. Don't "feel" guys out for their likes. If you like to drink, make it known. If the guy doesn't, you either get over it or move on to another guy. Don't try to find out what will impress them and then do that, because you usually won't score anything long-term if you only show a guy what he wants to see- eventually the reality will set in and he will be disenchanted by the mistruths.

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In reponse to your evening of cops and robbers: If you had sex, and he doesn't call you the next day, give him one more, then on day 3 call him and ask what he's up to, how he's doing, etc. Don't ask why he hasn't called, and the reason is this- if he's a decent guy, he'll feel bad for not having called, some people are busy and forget if they have enough else on their minds.

If you didn't have sex, call him the day after. He might be looking to see if you're interested enough for more, seeing as you were there until 5:30 and didn't have sex.

Averett

Well, we didn't have sex. So based on your theory, I should call tonight. It's 9pm now... I figure I'll give him a call tomorrow... Couldnt hurt, right?

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Root_Beer_Man

1.yes Yes and YES again to those who have said it...Make-up is not, i repeat *NOT* gonna get you the guys...there is no make-up/guy ratio. Putting more on will not make you more attractive..yes ok it does to a certain extent but like c'mon...why dont you just bathe in the stuff then.

2.Playing hard to get fucking annoying. if you know a guy likes you...and you like him...dont piss him off jsut cus you want some fun.

3. Damnit if you have blonde hair...BE FUCKING HAPPY! dont make yourself look like a cheap slut by dying it some shit fake black and thinking your hot.

4. We are NOT your bitch...dont act like we are. we are not on this earth to do your bidding.

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hobo

Approach me. Make a move. An interested girl is a turn on.

char

Pursue me. Im such a woman, I HATE pursuing. I like the women doing all the work. See, I think thats the way nature intended it to be, because females are smarter and more perceptive when it comes to this stuff, anyways.

archer2371

Halx is completely right, because nine times out of ten, it's the nice guys who are a nervous wreck and their only speech capabilities degenerate to "ummmmmm....... uhhh.... ummmmmm..... uhhhhhhh....." So ladies, please be a little more open to guys like this, because they are trying to think of something nice and un-chauvanistic to say to you because they think you're beautiful. Make 'em comfortable, I like a girl that I can just be comfortable with, not having to worry about saying something completely profound to keep you interested.

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Amen to that!

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angela146

Disclaimer... I'm married so I only put moves on guys once in a blue moon and it's usually only if I know them really well... but... I do understand the concept... or... they'll be scared shitless or, they'll wonder what the woman is up to... the old "hmmm if she's coming on to me, there must be something wrong here"I'm with you on that one. If you can tell that I'm wearing makup, it isn't working...We know that it looks better down, but some of us only want our lovers to see us that way. Taking our hair down is like taking our clothes off. We would look much prettier in lingerie instead of wearing a dress over it, but...you're assuming we know our own feelings... often we don't... we need friends and lovers to help us figure it all out. My husband usually knows more about how I feel than I do and it has always been that way. Don't ask us what we want or how we feel. Gently tell us how you would like us to feel and we'll see if that resonates.This is because of an almost instinctive need to please the man were with. If we like the guy, we try to be whoever he wants us to be. I have to fight my own tendancy to do it. Most women are so intrenched in it that they can't even see it.

There's a bigger issue: We need to know that we're going to be safe with you and we can't just ask you that. Almost every woman has either been raped or knows a woman who has. Most of us are scared shitless about it.

On the other hand, we tend to like men who are stronger and more confident than we are. We like to get swept off of our feet(again, I think that's instinctive) So... a lot of the "games" are intended to figure out if you are strong and confident enough to be a turn on but in control of yourself enough to not be violent.

Actually, it isn't very hard for a woman to pursue a man she wants as long as she's willing to face rejection (just like guys do). But that isn't what women usually want. We usually like men who are strong enough to surrender to and trustworthy enough to not take more from us than we want to be taken.

That means we like men who can take getting "shot down" and keep coming, but at the same time, show us that we can trust them.

I know, this just isn't fair, but if you can figure out the balance between strong and trustworthy, you will have no problem getting women to swoon for you.

Holo

Rape men more.

Seriously tho, I would love to see women direct some of their independence and motivation they show in the professional workd now to the relationship/sexual arena. I really tire of having to be he aggressor every single time; Once in a while I would like to be chased or sought after by a woman. Men like to be wanted too, ladies.

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mystic511

I'm still getting alot of "if girls did all the work, we'd all be happier"

Is there anything more specific? Let's say all girls made a more conscious effort to get with guys, then what traits/qualities would make a given girl the keeper?

I'll refer back to my own post as an example:

Thanks for all the input guys (and girls), keep it coming!

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obricko

Ditto on the cooking Mystic511. It lets a guy know that you can provide on a maternal level as well as a sexual and intelectual level. I'm single and live on my own and know how to provide for myself, and like an idependent woman that can do the same.

As for meeting in any type of public place (mostly the bar for me) eye contact with a smile is the biggest seller. If that doesnt let a guy know that you are showing intrest, move on! When I'm at the bar and see a girl make eye contact (longer than 5 seconds) and smile that tells me that A. shes single or looking to be B. she finds me attractive and C. she wants me to approach her!

As for the girl making the approach.... I'm still waiting for the day. The way I think of it they carry children for 9 months the least I can do is approach them.

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Girls don't have to do a damn thing. If a guy shows ANY interest in them and the girl knows that he likes her, all she has to do is go up to him and ask him to be hers.

THAT FUCKING SIMPLE

I wish girls would actually do this. Would help A LOT of guys.

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