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Love kids. Truly. A bit young now, but, well, the gf is Catholic, doesn't believe in ANY form of BC, so... it makes things interesting. Let me just say, she has 5 sisters (no brothers, and 3 unborn sisters :( ). Makes for an interesting relationship. We'll wait a few years when we're married, and then, lord knows if she's fertile she'll be shooting them out like a texan with a cannon.

P.S. 2 is enough kids for me, that way we can play man-man defense instead of zone.

Well, about kids, I don't plan to have more than one if any. And you all should feel the same. Do your part and don't have more than one child. Overpopulation is a problem, and if people continue to average 3.something children per family, the population will increase far too fast for this planet to support it. So, no matter what traditions you may have, do not have more than 2, and try to convince the people around you of it. In fact, the government needs to try to limit the number of children than a family can have, or charge extra tariffs for those that do have more. It sounds horrible, but when you think about it it's really necessary. Also, if every couple only had one child, think of how much the quality of living for the individual would increase since the human population would be lower.

Im a 26 yr old guy that is getting married in april and I cant wait to have kids. We prob. will not start trying for a least a year but I actually think about how it will be to actually try to get someone pregnant when I've spent so many years trying not to get anyone pregnant. It will definitely be a trip .

I'm 26, and my wife is 29. Our daughter just turned 3. We love her to death! She wasn't planned, but she's turned out great. I'd like a boy, but I think we're done. Still some discussing to do on that topic, but I'm content with my little girl.

China did the method exactly as you describe. The government, in return for demanding no more than one child per family, takes responsibility and cares for children in boarding schools and whatnot. When it comes to raising children, there really is no right or wrong way to do it, but I highly dislike how they do it.

I gotta disagree - I supposed in an ultra-relativistic sense, there's no right or wrong way, but there are better or worse ways depending on the outcome you want. The researchers I work with are doing research in Romanian orphanages, and let me tell you there's some fucked up shit going on there. They (the Romanians, not the researchers) think there's something wrong with abandoned kids, and that's why they end up fucked up. It just doesn't occur to them that being tied down to a bed, with nothing to look at, and human contact twice a day when you're fed and changed, for the first 2-3 years of your life, is to blame for the massive disorders in the orphanage-raised kids. From what I've heard, China is a little better with their abandoned kids but still far from optimal in terms of early development.

Yes, I most definitely want kids.

Just not yet!

We're only married less than a year, though together for about 5. I guess she wants them within the next 48 months which is OK with me.

She says she wants four, but I reckon she'll change her mind after squeezing out one...

Mr Mephisto

It's one of things you need to work out for yourself. Do you want them at the age of under 30 or after?

I have two kids, first happened when I was 22 and I thought it was going to ruin my life, however that's not the case. I would rather have them young and at a age where I can play with them then too old and not wanting to.

I'm 31 now and have a 7 month old girl, wouldn't change the way my life's gone at all. To start with I would have, thought I was to young but it has a way of sorting out that, "I'm too young to have kids" shit.

Number 2 is the last, we have one of each and that's good for both of us.

You really need to make your own mind up, just remember, when you do have kids they are for life, don't be one of these assholes (like my real dad) who pertend they never happened.

Not to be a dick, but I really don't have to work it out. I am single so it really does not matter what I want in the line of kids. It is sort of hard for me to have them being a guy and all. But in thinking of it more and more one reason I want them is so I do have the energery to keep up with them. But I am also fearfull of being like my parents. They were always working and not really around much. But like it really matters, I am single. Oh yeah, I am not bitching or having a pitty party. I honestly was just wondering how other people felt with or with out kids. Actualy Mortius made me think. How many people have thought "Oh I am too young for kids" and given up theri kid? Maybe some people need to grow up and face the conquences of their actions. Maybe that is what I am doing, in a way. I am no longer thinking "I am too young".

Oh well, continue to discuss.

not now. I'm 28. All I can think about is what I can buy next or where to travel. Can't see myself with kids ever really. My gf feels the same way...we've been living together for almost 6 years. Even after that time we're pretty happy together just relaxing and not having too many worries.

This coming from the same guy who declared he's never going to have sex?

Yes. Paradoxical, isn't it? You just finished identifying one of my daily struggles, MrFlux! Maybe I'll just adopt.

Oooo, bad example imho. Check out this site
http://www.refugees.org/world/articles/women_rr99_8.htm

Can you imagine the consequences of MANDATING that families only have one child? We're talking mass infanticide (slaughtering of unborn AND born babies). That article tells it pretty well. For those that want a quick summary:

"The official sanction for violating the one-child policy is a fine. However, the People's Republic of China (PRC) government acknowledges that it cannot always control how local officials enforce the policy. Because of regional population quotas, local officials have an incentive to keep the birth rate down. Chinese women have reported being forced to abort a pregnancy or to be sterilized. Men have told of being severely beaten and having to send their wives into hiding to deliver children."

"Without permission, a second child cannot be registered and, therefore, does not legally exist. The child cannot attend school (without payment of bribes) and later will have difficulty obtaining permission to marry, to relocate, and for other life choices requiring the government's permission."

"The government generally pays for birth control and abortions (and a woman who has an abortion receives a vacation with pay)."

"Given the longstanding preference for boy babies in China, the one-child policy has made female infanticide common. Baby girls are also abandoned at orphanages and churches. "

Okay, i didn't say it would be short, better to just read the article, i didn't cut much (maybe half?). Anyway, overpopulation actually isn't nearly as much a problem here in the US as in third world countries where birth control and other contraceptive methods aren't readily available (if at all). However, this thread isn't about overpopulation, so i'll stop here. Definitely respect your decision to have only one though. Still, i would prefer two.

P.S. If you want to discuss overpopulation, is there already a thread up, or i'll welcome a discussion for a new thread in tilted politics or something. Just PM me the thread name/address. Personally i don't know much about overpopulation in the US

Edit? That's what the 'edit' button is there for isn't it? Sorry to derail but if you want to 'edit' your post (change something around) you can press the EDIT button located down and to the right of your post. It's there for a reason; use it buddy!

-the more you know-

Sorry if that sounded too harsh or mod-like. I'm just sharing the knowledge ;)

want kids? i got kids 6 of them .5 boys 1 girl she is the youngest at 15 just startes high school yesterday.the boys range in ages 29 28 22 21 and 16.my wife and i wanted a big family but was a real challenge to raise them. we started out 30 years ago just us 2 now we have a total of 17 counting wives and grandkids.

Got one, got one on the way. I gotta say you have to be willing to give up a lot...they really take a lot of your time up. But it is definitely worth it. WARNING: watch your s.o. afterwards, postpartem is a bitch.

As scary a thought as it is, I do want kids. My first son will be named Matthew Issac, and the girl will be Amanda Lynn (props to anyone who catches my pun.) After those 2, well, I haven't thought that far ahead.

I want two, a boy and a girl, but not for a long time. Maybe after I finish college, get a nice job, and have a few years to spend with my wife.

I have 2 boys, and I wouldn't trade them for anything even though they can be exasperating.

I dislike babies, I think they're annoying, needy, expensive, and troublesome. However, this is something to be said for having a child, a symbol of love of both its parents.

I am torn. I want kids, yet I would also like to have a life, and money.

I am still young...19...and I have always wanted to have kids, but remember they are expensive. I figure I will do it when I have the money, and wife to do it.

I want kids. Unfortunatly, my girlfriend doesn't want to have kids until we are married for a few years. This sucks only because I don't want to be old when they graduate (if they do) high school and college.
And please please please, no daughters.

Never really wanted to have kids, but fell in love with a woman who did. I knew if we got married we would have kids so I took the plunge (It did take us 10 years to get married!). To add to everything, my wife had a difficult pregnancy (5weeks in the hospital) and our son was born 2 1/2 months premature (2lbs 10ozs) with a number of complications. Long story short, is that I am now a stay at home dad and loving it.

I never would have thought it, but it really is one of the greatest things in life.

no i do not want either kids or a so just not worth the finical problems this man is single and happy for ever

Right now I do not, and suspect I never will.

i dont want kids.... i want clones....


ok just kidding... really... i dont know if i want kids... eventually ill prolly want some... but not now... no way now...

I am only 21 but i think that if i met a cool enough gal and fell in love and got married i would totally want to have a child... maybe a wait a few years, but honestly im pretty anxious to have my life set up and stable.

no not now at least
maby later when im married

already have 4.

nope.

Not right now, but when I do, I think I want to have one, then adopt another.

Definently not, there are enough humans as it is. Regardless of population issues, just turning on the news is reason enough not to for me.

http://www.vhemt.org/art/colorvisualize.jpg


Check out http://www.vhemt.org....
Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.


This is an interesting site. I agree with a lot of what goes on here.

Maybe you should volunteer Guttersnipe :p

I'm 38 years old. Never wanted em, never will.

No. Children. Ever. I have neither patience nor maternal instinct nor the financial resources (and I will never have them, since I'm a public servant) to raise children. I don't wish them harm, but I don't want any of my own. It was a big bone of contention with Fiance #1, because he was born to be a dad. I also think that pregnancy is the squickiest thing on the planet. I hate doctors, and don't want to destroy my body by becoming pregnant.

I have known since I was 8 that I never want children, and I'm honestly getting a little sick of all the people that say, "Oh, it'll be different when they're your own" or "You'll change your mind when you get older" (I'm 26). Whether or not I want children is no one's business but mine. I don't understand why it's okay for me to say things like, "I don't like dogs," but it's not okay for me to not want children. The world is overpopulated as is, and the last thing we need is more kids. If you have the patience and money to raise kids, that's wonderful. I wish you well. Just don't expect any from me.

Rant over.

I think I'd like to have children later in life. It would come down to what my future wife and I decide and I could go either way. They're cute but they are also one heck of a long term responsibility.

kids? YES, right now? NO.

when I finish university and get a good job perhaps, but Ill have kids, and hopefully, many:D