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guttercup 04-28-2010 11:04 AM

Booty Calls... When and where
 
So I've been 'seeing' a couple of guys, one is really sweet, and i really like him and while we were hanging out this weekend the other one sent me a text asking for photos of my... well ... lady bits, he then asked if he could just come get me from where I was to 'fuck me nightly'


now he's good in the sack, i wouldn't mind that again, when is it ok to accept that, and when is it ok to offer it?

guttercup 04-28-2010 05:03 PM

I apparently had a reply i can't view?...
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Okay, I'll bite. Why aren't you a booty call? To avoid labels and self-esteem issues? Do you require a relationship to get off? Why not enjoy good sex?

I think a lot of girls are hung up on these things. I've never thought of any of the girls I've hooked up with for straight snarlin' as _insert derogatory title_.
It's not about self-esteem, not about needing to be 'attached' to get off, it's more about the way it came about.

There was just a ot of mixed reviews about this guy after this from good friends. They all seem to think that he's not allowed to call me just to fuck, but if I happen to call him to do just that, it's fine.

I'm more or less interested in knowing why the double standard. I've been around the block, had some awesome one-nighters, and some great FWB and I know the rules I know how the game is played out.

Just why? Why is it ok for me to call someone when all my intentions are only to satisfy some carnal need, but it's not ok, to accept his call for the same?

-more of a just really wanting to know what others think on the subject.

genuinegirly 04-28-2010 05:48 PM

Yep, sounds like a double-standard. I don't see why there should be one.
Maybe your friends are worried about this guy using you. Do they not understand that you're happily consenting to these solicitations?

On another note:

Do you want a women's-only perspective? That's what we get when we post in the protected area that is the Ladies' Lounge. I can move the thread to Sexuality for you if you'd like the men to weigh in.

guttercup 04-28-2010 05:49 PM

Sure, why the fuck not.

I don't think it would hurt.

genuinegirly 04-28-2010 05:52 PM

Hope you get some interesting responses.

Daniel_ 04-28-2010 10:42 PM

To my mind, the deal has to be equitable, and you both have to happy with whatever you agree to.

The only time I was in this sort of deal, she and I would call or text each other but would both feel happy to say "not today, thanks".

Your friends sound confused. If it's OK for you to call him, but not for him to call you, then you are effectively saying that YOUR sex is currency, but HIS sex is a paid service. He's not allowed to offer it to you? Why the fuck not?

If you are adults, if you are happy when you are fucking, if neither coerces the other into anything they later regret, and if both have the right to say no at any time then go for it.

However, if you feel forced, obligated, regretful, or unhappy with any of it, then there's a problem.

Reading your posts, I would suggest that the only aspect of the arrangement that has caused you negative emotions is the reaction of your friends, not the sex or the calls from your fuck-buddy. Maybe you should keep the boy and ditch the friends for a while? ;)

Seaver 04-29-2010 09:07 AM

Your friend is putting her experiences on you. She obviously had a fuck buddy situation where she wanted a relationship and he didn't. Therefore, she's trying to get you to play power games with your new f-buddy instead of just enjoying the fun.

If you like to have sex with this guy go for it and ignore your friend.

CinnamonGirl 04-29-2010 10:46 AM

Well, one good rule to follow is don't accept a booty call when you're hanging out with another guy...that's just bad form. :)

Otherwise, as long as you're not making any promises to anyone else, then have at it. Here's the thing-- women like no-strings-attached sex just as much as men do.

guttercup 04-29-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaver (Post 2782320)
Your friend is putting her experiences on you. She obviously had a fuck buddy situation where she wanted a relationship and he didn't. Therefore, she's trying to get you to play power games with your new f-buddy instead of just enjoying the fun.

If you like to have sex with this guy go for it and ignore your friend.

Not the case with her at all, she's only been with one dude her whole life, 12 years and counting now.


Its more of I think they're scared that he'll see me as just that and nothing more. As of now I do like the guy, but I'm not in any place to be in a relationship. I think the confusing part is that I like one more than the other, and I spend a lot of time with that one. That situation is just fucked all together though...

MSD 04-29-2010 12:30 PM

If you're both in the mood for fucking, why does it matter who asks first? Your friend has a naive view of sex and probably withholds it from her guy as leverage. Relationships, romantic or physical, should be about making both people happier, not a zero sum game.

Cimarron29414 04-29-2010 01:10 PM

guttercup,

Do your friends' sexual views fall in line with yours in most other areas? Is it unique for their opinions on issues like this to be different than yours?

Seaver 04-29-2010 05:52 PM

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Not the case with her at all, she's only been with one dude her whole life, 12 years and counting now.

Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...#ixzz0mXnuRAMw
Ah... it's a power thing reflected from her own relationship then. Does she withhold sex to get her way with her bf?

snowy 04-30-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CinnamonGirl (Post 2782353)
Well, one good rule to follow is don't accept a booty call when you're hanging out with another guy...that's just bad form. :)

Otherwise, as long as you're not making any promises to anyone else, then have at it. Here's the thing-- women like no-strings-attached sex just as much as men do.

Bingo.

As long as things are clear and you are two consenting adults--have at it, and tell your friend to mind her own business. Her heart may be in the right place, but she doesn't have the experience to have an informed opinion about the protocols of booty calls.

guttercup 04-30-2010 01:41 PM

She's pretty much worried that I'll just become a slut I think.

Each time I would go home with a stranger (and there have been a few, not that i'm proud but hey, we all have our moments) she would give me this lecture about being safe and not falling in love because the sex was good.

I'm totally ok with seeing two guys, fooling around with them both, as long as it's not a back to back thing, that makes me feel dirty.

Now my problem is I'm getting my new apartment tomorrow, and they both want to come over.... what does a lady do?

snowy 04-30-2010 02:24 PM

Tell them you're still settling in and you'll let them know when your new place is ready ;)

Daniel_ 04-30-2010 02:47 PM

Well - if they know about each other - one option in this is to invite them both over for some "fore and aft" action.

amonkie 04-30-2010 03:23 PM

The biggest thing is to be honest to yourself first - if you can't even do that, then there's no way you can communicate to someone else your expectations and desires out of a sex fun arrangement.

Also - Love =! Sex in all instances. It sounds like your friend is leaping from sex to relationships and so therefore is judging any person for relationship quality.

I have people that if the opportunity arose and we were both free and interested, I'd totally jump their bones, but I would never enter into a relationship with them, despite the sexual chemistry.

guttercup 04-30-2010 03:58 PM

One situation is really fucked. I think I got myself into something bad, because we've both admitted that feelings have started to form.

He has what he calls 'a Seasonal Girlfriend' that is about to come back into town... I think I'm starting to like him in more than a sex way and well, in a couple weeks I wont hear from him as much and he'll be fucking another girl, thusly not fucking me.

I don't know if I should just jump ship now, before she gets here to ease my own pain or just enjoy the good sex until it stops.

Seaver 05-03-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Each time I would go home with a stranger (and there have been a few, not that i'm proud but hey, we all have our moments) she would give me this lecture about being safe and not falling in love because the sex was good.

Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...#ixzz0mtIb7qiN
Um.. so she cares about you... but wtf does she know?

I'm sorry being with only 1 person is romantic... but taking sex advice from her is like taking career advise from a kid still in High School. They don't know dick because they haven't experienced anything.

Quote:

One situation is really fucked. I think I got myself into something bad, because we've both admitted that feelings have started to form.

He has what he calls 'a Seasonal Girlfriend' that is about to come back into town... I think I'm starting to like him in more than a sex way and well, in a couple weeks I wont hear from him as much and he'll be fucking another girl, thusly not fucking me.

I don't know if I should just jump ship now, before she gets here to ease my own pain or just enjoy the good sex until it stops.

Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...#ixzz0mtIzJXL9
The feelings are there, you have two options. You can keep having sex until he puts an end to it... or you can now.

Don't let him play you second fiddle. I know you like him, and he might sort-of-like you... but if he actually cared he wouldn't go to a "seasonal girlfriend."

guttercup 05-03-2010 11:02 AM

It's really strange, we were talking the other night and he said something about relationships and people and that he needs to talk to me about something but he doesn't have to words yet, he needs to figure a few things out. I do like him, and enjoy him in general, i'm wondering if us having a friendship after it all is even possible.

the other guy seriously wont leave me alone, he texts me daily, asking me to sit on his face. it's kinda off putting how pushy he is.

gentlesoul43 05-04-2010 08:03 AM

Dump guy no 2. he's obviously thinking that he can talk shit and get away with it. Booty calls have to come with some respect. He thinks he owns you and disrespects you.

Then again, he might be a good shoulder to cry on when Guy No 1 doesnt work out.

guttercup 05-05-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gentlesoul43 (Post 2783947)
Dump guy no 2. he's obviously thinking that he can talk shit and get away with it. Booty calls have to come with some respect. He thinks he owns you and disrespects you.

Then again, he might be a good shoulder to cry on when Guy No 1 doesnt work out.


I highly doubt that #2 will be that guy, every time i talk to him, even about seeing a movie he mentioned something about my crotch and his face, it's actually kind of annoying.

Ad for dude #1, apparently he had a talk with the other girl, and according to The King, we're dating now.

How the fuck did that happen? From fucking to dating? Seriously?

jerseyboy 05-06-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by guttercup (Post 2784371)
I highly doubt that #2 will be that guy, every time i talk to him, even about seeing a movie he mentioned something about my crotch and his face, it's actually kind of annoying.

If he is annoying you, he doesn't deserve to get what he wants. Hold off with him, and maybe he will learn a little respect. It might be a purely sexual relationship, but there still has to be some degree of respect involved.

KirStang 05-06-2010 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by guttercup (Post 2784371)
How the fuck did that happen? From fucking to dating? Seriously?

Happens. :)


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