See? This is why I keep sex to a minimum. It's too damn complicated.

I said "sex," not "masturbation."

Masturbation is ridiculously simple. Or at least it should be.

Yeah. That's why. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...sp_rofl0ne.gif

Then you're not doing it right. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10.../whistling.gif

Yeah, masturbation is totally not the same as sex, Bret Easton Ellis.

Yeah, sex is for making babies.

I know it's not the same as masturbation, but if sex were so simple, wouldn't we have it all the time? Like daily or whatever?

EDIT: I'm not an expert. Most teenagers have had more sex than I have.

WOW this guy got grilled excessively. Entertaining thread though. Glad the ordeal is over. Use the experience to prevent the same from happening in the future.

And we have ourselves a winnah!

Seriously, what more could anyone possibly hope for out of all of this?

Reflect on this, ask yourself how you really feel deep within the back of your mind, and make a conscious effort to come out of this a better person, one who be repulsed by this statement:

Keep pounding her.

Well, I am not going to criticize your actions because it doesn't matter, but just suggest next time a scenario like this happens to you again, tell the girl you just want sex and not interested in a current/future relationship and you don't find her at all attractive. If after hearing all this information and she still agrees to have sex with you, then you are good to go.

Mistake number one when having a fuck buddy is not laying out the terms from the beginning, when you don't you...well the above thread lays it out pretty well. I've learned that painful lesson many many times when I was younger and I don't think it ever ended well. I guess we all do dumb things when we're young, all we can do is learn from it and try not to make the same mistake again.

On a side note its rather amazing how quickly feelings develop once sex enters the picture...its like warp speed to relationship land if you're not careful. Human nature I suppose.

"Hey your hot"
"yeah so are you, wanna fuck?"

****hot passionate sex******

Next morning
"So whens a good time to introduce you to my family?"
"sigh"

Definitely should have done that. Spoke to her last night and told her that i had been telling a few fib's and that i had basically stayed open to the idea of a relationship so she wouldnt tell my sister and because i enjoyed the sex. Surprisingly she took it really well and said that shes "over" guys anyway so its not a big deal to her that we can't date, but that shes keen to keep having our rendezvous at night.

So basically ive hit a double combo by managing to keep the sex but also lose her desire for a relationship. If only i could hit the trifecta and somehow make her hot.

I think that woke me up and made me realise i had to proactively do something about this otherwise things might hit the shit. Cheers buddy and to everyone else who guided me.

So glad you cleared the air and made it a positive situation for everyone involved. Thanks for following-up with the update, too.

Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

It's not about my conscience in the least. I regularly instigate these sorts of things because I'm sick and tired of the underhanded and passive aggressive bullshit that goes on around here. Whether it mysteriously finds its way into my inbox or I see it in chat - I'd rather the perpetrators grow a set and have it out already.

Just look at your last sentence that I've quoted above. This isn't the first time you've condemned much of the advice offered as idealistic and hypocritical bullshit. I'd much rather you have it out in a manner that actually means something to someone other than yourself.

Congrats on a smooth exit, a_hero.

Oh, good. Angst-related meta discussion.

Like I said: You're reading way too much into my posts, bro. Remember: My IQ and your pants size are similar. I don't go that deep.

And let's not use male genitalia as a measure of assertiveness. We all know how I measure up. *rubs smoothspot*

How have I not been clear? I'm working with hammers and pitchforks here, not scalpels and sewing scissors. Please enlighten me.

...

Or don't. This is probably a waste of effort.

Next stop on this train- Hell

well, the OP is only 20, an age not inclined to reason or, really , anything but getting your nubbly bits rubbed, and yet showed a concern for his partner, and an ability to analyze the the situation and move forward in a fairly human fashion- not too bad, overall, and hopefully he can in fact learn from this early possible debacle.....

Generally, if you feel like you need to hide something from someone / lie / etc., you really need to be thinking if you should continue your course of action. :)

Appreciate the update.

First, I will assume this post is a fake. most likely from someone seeking cheap kicks.

Second, I'll play it out anyway. Who cares, they are 18/20... summer lovin', happened so fast...

PhD,

Clearly a psychologist, you got me on this one, well kinda.

It was a legitimate post right until the end, then my "update" was bullshit.. Thought it would be great to give all my critics a reason to get pissed.

I decided to take the route of stonewalling her out of my life. Im not sure if i wrote it in an earlier post but the last time i saw her i had her phone and deleted my messages, my number and even made sure i went to recently dialed numbers and deleted my number from there as well. Its worked out great, no contact since and my sister might know but i doubt shes going to bring up me fucking her friend in a conversation anytime soon.

that's the mature route! :thumbsup::no::no::no::no:

don't forget to go to her house and find all her old wireless bills because your number will be printed on those too. :thumbsup:

Wow, way to skirt responsibility.

Do the world a favour: seek help before starting a relationship (of any kind) with another woman.

You have serious self-esteem issues.

Yeh sure i could have come clean to the world and acknowledged my wrong doing, faced the problem head on. Yet i dont think the end result would have been as good as doing absolutely nothing. Im very pleased with the end result.

I think i do have self esteem issues. I know im a better person then i give myself credit for and i think its making me a terrible person. Maybe if i get more girls to like me it will help.

You have that exactly backwards. If you take care of your own issues and make yourself a better person then more people (including girls) will like you.

Improve yourself before you seek adulation.

It might take a while.

The human species has gone through 2 million years of design revisons to weed out the ones who can't get laid, that's a pretty low goal to set for yourself. In fact, literally the only way to set the bar lower is for your goal in life to be "not dying." That's not even getting into the psychological issues displayed by basing your sense of self-worth on who will let you stick your dick in them rather than who you are as a person.

Whatever you think is cleared up now, it hasn't. It'll come back to haunt you again. :) Prepare yourself for this:

She will talk. Then her friends will talk. If she's really butt ugly like you said, she's probably proud to have scored with you. And she'll talk once she's gotten over you. Eventually, your sis and your friends will find out.

You had better have something nice to say then, and not break her heart twice by slagging her. It will be terrible to disrespect her again.

agree with several posters: live with your choice of not wanting a relationship with this girl, *tell her* (you owe her honesty, and you should want to owe everyone honesty), and deal with it. in the end, it'll be OK anyway.

so what if you sister finds out? there was a reason why you and her friend hooked up and it's not really her business, anyway.

You are a sad excuse for a man!

update: i saw her out last night and i decided i really do think shes a great person and i dont care what she looks like. I shouldnt care what other people think about us if i enjoy her company.

We are catching a movie tonight for our first real date ever. Im going to treat her like a princess this time.

Great, let us know if you get lucky.

Hmm, I wonder... am I the only person that wants to know "how ugly" here?

I mean, the OP needs to compare her to something we can relate to so we understand.

How ugly is this girl? Is she total Barfy Von Wooftastic or is she just a little chunky?

It's the Internet, where a whole lot of real-life sexy becomes "ugly."

Maybe in your world, brother. In my world... we all blow our nose and wipe our ass. To quote Richard Bachman, "But as Warner Brothers, John D. MacDonald, and Long Island Dragway know so well, there's a Mr. Hyde for every happy Jekyll face, a dark face on the other side of the mirror." And in this case... that face has zits big enough to crack a beer cap on. So... "for every beautiful woman, there is a many somewhere that is tired of her shit." And for every "ugly" girl out there... there's a man who can't get enough of her.

I like to see what other people see as ugly... because I've seen what passes for beautiful and it doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Make no mistake: the Internet is not my world.

Dude, there's a whole lotta ugly on the Web.

shes basically a chubby asian, i wish i could go into more details to get things a little clearer but its difficult to pick anything about her that would help. I think the easiest way to get you guys to understand is by going onto xnxx.com and then typing into the search box "chubby asian", it should come up with "two dicks for chubby asian jazmin" as one of the first results, have a look. Ive spent about 10mins looking for what represents her the best, and this chicks body is basically the same. The only difference is her face which is of equal value, and her skin, my asians got a lighter shade.

Shes just simply not sexy.

but sexy enough to get your dick hard and want to stick it inside her.

it's not like your dick was limp, and you weren't aroused. You were aroused enough to stick it to her.

You just don't think that OTHER people think she's sexy.

This is a prime example of how fucked up you are, bro.