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Nova_Dust 07-07-2003 11:51 AM

Anal Sex
 
I have done it before with my ex and she seemed to like it. It all happened as one accident…

We were doing doggy style once then just before I came, I thrust really fast and apparently, the last couple strokes ended up in her ass. I sure didn’t feel any difference but she was all screaming and hurting (well, not really screaming, but she felt weird). Then she went to the washroom, wash up a bit and found out her ass was bleeding. Needless to say, she couldn’t even sit comfortably the day after it.

After that prelude, every time I went down on her I would finger both her backdoor entrance and the usual route with index and middle finger. She seemed fine with it. Then when we go anal, she would request thrust both hole one after the other, like taking turns almost.

But before she tried it the first time, she totally disagreed with the idea. After she had a taste of it, she seemed to love it. We bought a penis shape dildo and I am not sure if I remember it correctly but one time she was on top and I inserted the dildo up her ass. Well, that could be from watching too much porn so I could have been mistaken…

A buddy of mine said he persuaded his fiancé to go anal and she got off like crazy every time. Obviously, she refused it the first time. Then she stop doing it after 4 or 5 times because she was afraid she might love it so much that it will make her rectum muscle loose.

Some how, the idea of anal sex seems interesting to me and I wouldn’t mind try it again with my fiancé but you probably guessed it… yup, she totally rejected it. Well been there and done that I am not too forceful on that notion but just wondering do girls really like it? I am hell it is gonna hurt you really get off on that?

Holo 07-07-2003 11:59 AM

Mine likes it occasionally, i.e. 4-5 times a year. This is plenty for me. I'm of the opinion pussy feels a lot better than ass...ass is much more psychological for me than physical. It does feel different and good, but a pussy is made for sex, and it feels better to me. My gf has this sexy dragging breathing when we have anal, and she does get off that way. But we both keep it as a deviation of routine than a norm.

Nova_Dust 07-07-2003 12:04 PM

What I am trying to say is... how did you get her to do it the first time?

Nova_Dust 07-07-2003 01:06 PM

Sure I talked. I am not a forceful person and I wouldn't want someone to pick my nose without my consent either.

dimbulb 07-07-2003 01:33 PM

Re: Anal Sex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Then when we go anal, she would request thrust both hole one after the other, like taking turns almost.


That's not very healthy at all.

Anything that has been in the anus should NOT be put in the vagina. Not a finger, not a dildo, not a dick. All sorts of nasty things live in the anus, which you do not want to introduce into the pussy...

Nova_Dust 07-07-2003 01:44 PM

I thought so, but she liked it, so I complied.

relic 07-07-2003 02:26 PM

enemas =)

lumpenprole 07-07-2003 04:36 PM

Re: Re: Re: Anal Sex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Melun Jinn
Can you say YEAST INFECTION FROM HELL?

*whimpers at the thought*

Yeah, if she's at all vulnerable, that really screws things up. The wife and I have to be really careful about that, because she does like a finger up the ass, but if I'm not paying close attention and mix my fingers up, she's buying monistat the next day. Nasty.

Donkeypuncher 07-07-2003 05:36 PM

re: anal sex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nova_Dust
What I am trying to say is... how did you get her to do it the first time?
Depends on the woman. I'd say it's about half and half in my experience who like it but of those that do, a good portion of them claim to have never liked it at all prior to me. Maybe it's because I'm patient and gentle about it, maybe they're just saying that. (shrug) Moot point now, eh?

To get to the question more directly -- of the last two...

with the first one, it was slow and gentle. Started with a finger while eating her out. Don't go in right away... wait til she's really getting worked up and near a climax; it'll push her over the edge and plant a mental seed about that actually feeling good. When you do try it, as mentioned already, make sure there's plenty of lube and g o s l o w. I can't stress that enough. One painful experience early on and it'll never happen again. Let her tell you when it's ok to go deeper. Eventually (multiple sessions in the future), she'll get more relaxed with the process and this part won't take long at all. This woman (one who said she never liked it before me and would indulge once in a while just to make the guy happy) ended up requesting it at least once a week. The request (and I am NOT making this up)was usually something along the lines of "the butt needs some attention tonight." Oh, and she had this sweet southern accent... who could say no?

the current woman, well... a month into dating (a year ago), we're at her parent's house after a party and everyone's gone home (we were house-sitting for the weekend). We're in the jacuzzi, clothes come off, things are going nicely... I was behind her and she looks over her shoulder with a wicked smile, reaches back, grabs me and removes me from one place and places me in the other. And ummm, there ya go. It's been a friendly place ever since. Of course, I've found out over this past year that she is way more wild than she appears at first so it's no surprise now, but at the time... damn, Gina. One of the biggest turn-ons, ever.

Ultimately, you don't "get" her to do it. She likes it or not and if she doesn't, don't force it. C'est la vie. She may not know she likes it because she's been too afraid to try it or tried it with someone who just rammed something big in there and who the hell would like that under most any circumstance? Be patient and gentle. Work up to it over a month or two. make sure she's really turned on before you go there at all. Realize there are nights when she won't want to at all, even if she likes it other times. Be cool, communicate and really listen to what she says. You'd be surprised what kind of doors that'll open...

JStrider 07-07-2003 06:03 PM

ariekitten and i have talked about it a lil bit... *shrug* dunno if we'll actually do it... but she said she was open to trying it...

Nova_Dust 07-08-2003 10:16 AM

Quote:

"the butt needs some attention tonight."
That was gold bro, thumbs up man, thumbs up.

Ganguro 07-08-2003 10:30 AM

i think you might have missed the point of his post.

Charlatan 07-08-2003 10:35 AM

We've been talking about it for some time... she insists that it will happen "someday"...

She has mentioned in other discussions that she fears doing to many new things as she will run out of things to please me in the long run... So instead she serves to frustrate me in the here and now.

Such is the way it goes...

Donkeypuncher 07-08-2003 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nova_Dust
That was gold bro, thumbs up man, thumbs up.
Oh, and it was. (sigh) it was.


Quote:

Originally posted by Ganguro
i think you might have missed the point of his post.
To whom are you speaking?

Jim Kata 07-08-2003 11:15 AM

I don't know if I posted this before, butt...My girl isn't in to it. I wish she was sometimes. I don't really want to put my cock in there. I did (want to) before when we used condoms...but now we don't so I don't care about bare backing the backside. Although I do want to rub it, stick a finger or two in, and ...... I wanna eat that ass! Sick? Maybe, but its a fact. I want to do that sometimes. After a shower of course, butt I definetly would do it. And you know what...I don't mind her rubbing my mudwhistle whilst giving me head and even a finger insertion is ok. Someone from this forum actually recommended me to communicate more about it..so I did. And guess what....she likes it...and I like it. No fingers inside yet...but she rubs it and fellas...its nice.
Happy Anal Spelunking.

edit: forgot the "(want to)" up there ^

CrotchrocketSlm 07-08-2003 12:15 PM

Does she really have a nice ass Jim? That whole wish to want to eat that ass could almost be understandable then...

Jim Kata 07-08-2003 12:18 PM

Oh it is nice...oh so nice. One of these days I'm gonna do it.....maybe our wedding night..since we haven't saved much else for that.
So you would do it then Crotch? If the ass was to your likings?

edit: I think all the porno I have been watching has gotten me curios about the ass eating.

-Anders 07-08-2003 12:45 PM

Heheh i share your desire Jim, i too have thought about it more than once, but so far (as with many other things) it has been but a thought.

Donkeypuncher 07-08-2003 01:25 PM

She's licked mine, I've licked hers. We both think it feels great. (shrug) Just wash up first, ya know?

Honestly, if you want to try it, go for it. If your partner's timid about things, talk about it first. Whatever you're trying, get each other _really_ worked up before doing it - that makes just about everything easier and more enjoyable. Far more chance of a repeat performance...

mrmolta 07-08-2003 05:22 PM

What kind of lube do you recommend? I am looking for something that is not synthetic. Something completely safe and edible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

wraithhibn 07-08-2003 06:11 PM

Asstroglide. I'll probably try it someday, just gotta find the right girl first.

Nova_Dust 07-09-2003 07:36 AM

Ya I have ate my gf's ass. She has such fine sized ass, not too big, not too small. Some women have nice racks but no ass, I mean, there ain't nothing down there. My gf's, they are nice and round, bouncy and soft, you can grab them all day long and not get tired.

When I eat her from behind, man what a vew......

Nova_Dust 07-09-2003 08:43 AM

http://www.audioshow.com.pl/Zdjecia/...nk3%5b1%5d.jpg

motdakasha 07-09-2003 08:57 AM

Quote:

Then she went to the washroom, wash up a bit and found out her ass was bleeding.
You really scare me.
#1: Too much lube is almost enough.
#2: She chooses the pace.
#3: It helps if she straddles from atop because she has more control.
#4: Astroglide.
#5: Be mature, the ass is the ass.

Nova_Dust 07-09-2003 10:10 AM

It was more cuts type of bleeding then PMS bleeding. But ya I get what you are saying.

But from my past experience, we never used lub becuase she was wet as hell, and that it was pretty easy to get into. I guess she was relax, though.

rmccl94 07-09-2003 06:42 PM

Just a suggestion, astroglide may be great, but I find that olive oil is great, natural, inexpensive and should be in every kitchen (at least one where there is someone enjoys cooking). What other oil's are prevalent and usable? Probably many.

It's like buying drinking water when the tap may be just fine and sometimes its the same source as what we are buying. Who convinced us to buy water anyway .... uh ... the French? (yes, I know that tap is not always 'fine' but it's usually ok).

Back to the thread, anal can be great .... touch, finger entry, intercourse ... oh and yes licking when very clean is fine too. There is a bit of spice that lingers on the tongue. After a shower or a hot tub anything goes.

Once had a lover that craved it. The experience was so complete, there was nothing off limits. Often was just touching and/or fingering, but everthing was involved and it was good. Miss her.

relic 07-09-2003 08:05 PM

i heard using oils isn't good, cause it creates like a layer in your rectum where bacteria can sit, and it's not good for it to sit. water soluable is the way to go

arnie 07-09-2003 09:49 PM

im still lernin lots about it but! does the rectum muscle really get weak? i have'nt noticed any difference ! i mean isnt it like a rubberband or something...i also agree that water base lubes are pretty good...it also helps if you've very hard, cos no limp dicks go there...but we're all different eh........

Donkeypuncher 07-09-2003 11:20 PM

Quote:

does the rectum muscle really get weak?
urban legend. It's like any other muscle; you can learn to relax it, but that in no way implies it will remain relaxed permanently.


Quote:

it also helps if you've very hard, cos no limp dicks go there[/B]
I wouldn't say that's entirely true. Semi-hard actually works better in some situations and positions. Something slightly more flexible in there is going to be much more confortable for her in many instances. I'm not talking soft, but not entirely hard either. I dunno about you, but when I'm _really_ hard, it's completely stiff and that works great for some things, but not so much with anal and I have to be aware of what angle I'm entering her at or it's going to hurt her. And mind you... we're talking about someone who _likes_ this activity; I'd be even more careful with someone who's new to it.

On the lube issue, water-based work great... we have Astroglide on hand but don't use it often. I'm almost always in her pussy first and she always gets extremely wet, so there's rarely a need, but don't be unprepared, ya know?

actionplant 07-10-2003 12:07 AM

I'm definitely with you on the olive oil. It's all we use anymore, and what's really fun is you can get it all over. Seems once you're covered with it the two of you will have even fewer inhibitions (if that's even possible), plus the different sensation of oily skin sliding on oily skin is incredible. Also, from a medical standpoint, don't worry about the bacteria. We consume a LOT of oils, lots of which get broken down inside of our bodies and absorbed yes, but still many pass through in our feces. Also, the concern doesn't seem justified, simply because bacteria in our intestines is NECESSARY for the final step in the digestive process. Finally, feces is in general coarse, and it should only take two to three passes to elminiate (scrape out) almost all traces of whatever oil you used.

Anyway, we'd talked about different things, but she brought up anal and asked if I'd ever wanted it. I just told her I was up for trying lots of different things, and she said maybe someday. The thing is, don't push her. It seems to me that lots of women are really nervous about it. Instead of pressuring her (which will lead to lots of stress for her if she gives in, and she won't enjoy it as much under stress!) just let her get used to the idea and let you try it on HER time. If you never get it, don't worry about it! You'll survive. And if and when you do, here are a few more pointers.

Don't go from her anus back to any other hole. Just don't. It's simply not safe (for her).

Wash up afterward, most certainly. You can wind up with some uglies on your wang if you don't...whether you see it on there or not, you come out with matter on it. Thrusting will create a vacuum, and even if she's vacated, the sex will still suck SOME matter down (usually fluid feces) and you may not even notice if you're properly lubed.

And that's the final thing. Make sure you've used a finger or two to get the hole well lubed and loosened. Make sure she's relaxed, or she WILL tear, no matter how gentle you are. It's tender tissue in there, and if you tear, it will REALLY hurt her when next she vacates.

If she's used to you playing around in that area, don't be afraid to have her play around yours. Liking stimulation in your ass area has nothing to do with your sexual preference; there are a lot of nerves packed into the area, and it can be very stimulating for both of you. We finger each-others' assholes all the time; it's an awesome turn-on and, if need be, can help push you both over the edge if you're on a schedule.

motdakasha 07-10-2003 04:25 AM

okay, i know this is the anal sex thread, but because you mentioned olive OIL, i feel the need to mention this here and now.

DON'T USE OIL WITH CONDOMS EVER (evAr)!
Google for "oil-based lube condom"
Here are two links that came up. Please read for an explanation since I've had a little to drink and don't feel like explicating.
http://www.mypleasure.com/education/...estions/18.asp
http://www.coolnurse.com/sex_faqs19.htm

And this is important why? Because you should always use condoms when doing anal. Always.
WHY?! Google "anal HIV"
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq22.htm
I'm too lazy to find a link that properly informs you of my point, but my point is this: You are more susceptible to transmit an STD to someone receiving anal than with any other orifice because of how the anus/rectum/intestines function. BE SAFE.
I will go pass out now.

motdakasha 07-10-2003 04:46 AM

FURTHERMORE (i had to get out of bed because this was nagging me in the back of my mind)
I would like to see some kind of reference or resource stating "Also, from a medical standpoint, don't worry about the bacteria."

Because as far as I know, it's just as healthy as putting food in a vagina, which I definitely know is NOT okay. Just because digested food comes out of there, doesn't mean that it is healthy to insert undigested food from the wrong end. I want to know if this is YOUR logic, or the logic of someone who is properly educated/in-the-know/certified to give such reasonings. (RN won't cut it.)

Shove some mayo up your rectum, wait two weeks, and tell me it's just as safe as sticking cooking oil up there. If what you're saying is true, then it's safe to insert any food item in there.. and something about that just sends off a big warning alarm in my head.

oscar0308 07-10-2003 05:03 AM

when i met my wife, she had tried anal twice and once it was more of 'ok its in, now get it out'. she wasnt very receptive, no pun intended, to the idea. i had only enjoyed it once before but was a little more experienced with finger insertion and analingus. she said no way to both.

one night whilst going down on her i licked a little farther down and gauged her reaction. and it was good. i kept working in wider circles til i was tongueing her pretty good and she was obviously emjoying it. afterward we talked about it and she was a little suprised at how good it felt. i said 'i told ya' with a sly smile. :p from there other avenues opened up and one evening while in the spoon position, she reached around and introduced me to the back door. quite shocking!

there's been alot of great advice here and if you just follow it she might decide that it's something that interestes her.

major points:
1. patience
2. pleasure
3. patience
4. lube
5. patience
6. start small
7. patience... espcially if you get to that final step.. let her control everything.

rmccl94 07-10-2003 07:41 PM

motdakasha:
"DON'T USE OIL WITH CONDOMS EVER (evAr)!"

May I respectfully submit and correct me if I am wrong (please, I mean it), but(t), the oil that deteriorates condoms is petroleum based, right? Am I mis-informed, or would olives (and other vegetable oil) NOT be in that category. In fact, aren't veggies, like us, pretty much water based organic substances? Do you own stock in astro-glide? :-). Just want to keep us from overlooking obvious, natural substances instead of mindlessly buying some unnecessary product (like for most as in my original post, ‘bottled’ water for god's sake).

I am not a chem or bio engineer/scientist, and I am not going to claim that olive oil and the like are water based lubs, but I am not stupid and they sure as hell aren't vasoline! (being not stupid means still teachable)

Anyone out there qualified to comment?

also while i'm at it,
"shove some mayo up your rectum, wait two weeks"

While I am not going to do that, mayo being a dairy product is going to go 'bad' whereas a substance such as olive oil can sit in a bottle un-refrigerated for a long time with not ill effects. (I am ignoring that in the suggestion above, if the rectum is part of a living person, that there is no substance that is going to remain in it for more that 24hr, much less 2 wks). And yes, I would not hesitate to shove a bit of olive oil up there, should there be a reason and I am certain that there would be no ill effects from that.

The real question here is, would a vegetable based oil, damage a condom? There is no other issue that I can see. Again, is there an informed voice out there that can speak to this?

motdakasha 07-10-2003 09:57 PM

The teachers in my sex ed. classes said that any oil-based anything that is used for the purpose of lube is highly ill-advised. Google seems to agree.

Results from clicking three of the first links that came up in Google when searching for "oil-based lube condom"

"First and foremost, Oil-Based lubricants should never be used with a latex condom. Oil breaks down the condom in a matter of moments and increases the risk of condom breakage and fluid transmission." http://www.condoms.net/?TO=/lubes/resource_guide.html

"Never use an oil based lubricant as this will damage your condom. Don't use vaseline, hand cream, massage oil or anything like it. If you're desperate to fuck and don't have a water based lube to hand, then even spit is preferable to an oil based lube, though don't make a habit of this." http://www.steveretsonproject.org.uk...s/condoms.html

"Prior to the condom breaking, there could be some microscopic damage to the condom that would not be visible to the naked eye. For this reason, it's best to avoid using oil-based lubricants altogether and eliminate the guesswork." http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/S...t/Q142995.html

Also, mayo is not a dairy product, but poultry. Mayo is basically egg and vinegar.
(Recipe from Google, searched "mayonnaise recipe")
Title: Mayonnaise
Categories:
Yield: 1 Servings
1 c Salad oil

1 Egg
-=OR=-
2 Egg yolks

2 tb Lemon juice
-=OR=-
2 tb Vinegar

Salt and pepper
Paprika

Nova_Dust 07-11-2003 06:59 AM

Just unload yourself in her ass. Then use the cum as the lub.

Jiang Jieshi 07-11-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rmccl94

May I respectfully submit and correct me if I am wrong (please, I mean it), but(t), the oil that deteriorates condoms is petroleum based, right? Am I mis-informed, or would olives (and other vegetable oil) NOT be in that category.

While it is true that vegetables have high water contents, vegetable OILS, like petroleum-based oils, are hydrocarbons, and certainly far more chemically similar to other oils than to water.

Therefore, I surmise that they would damage a condom in the same manner.

Donkeypuncher 07-12-2003 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tfin
Man, does every one really own stock in Astro glide?
Nah - just tried it a long time ago and it wasn the first thing that worked well for everything... vaginal, anal, toys, whatever. If it works, why should I shop for something else? She likes it, too - we're good to go. =)

motdakasha 07-12-2003 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tfin
Man, does every one really own stock in Astro glide?
I have only heard good things about Astroglide. I once attended a vaginal fisting seminar (don't ask) and the lecturers were Sexologists and they swore by Astroglide. They said the only thing similar to it is veterinarian's lube for horses that comes in powder form (Just Add Water!). I guess there is supposedly something unique about the mixture/chemicals they use that makes Astroglide one of the few lubes that closely imitates femmejuices (what the hell do you call that?!). Anyhow, it works well.

Markaz 07-13-2003 01:26 AM

What ever you do do NOT go from ass to vagina, you bring a TON of stuff with you if you do this.. Also I'd advise using a rubber when you do go for the ass as it is an ass...where shit resides...


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