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No witty quip, no cheap shot at my grammar, no pearl of wisdom popped outta your watertight Upstanding Citizen (TM) blowhole... nothing. I need your love! :wave: ... I offer boobs AND oral sex with colorful descriptors and all I get is a halfhearted "Duh" remark?! |
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*refrains from going off on a complacent-woman-as-fuck-prop dominance tangent*
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FWIW Crompsin, my Lady brought this thread up in conversation last night. She was surprised that there had been no comments on the validity of your purported study, and was offended and appalled at the weakness and lack of rigour in what reads as a scientific endeavor. I replied that it was an all-in-fun bit of fluff thread which may or may not bring up some interesting points, but was not a serious take on the scientific method. She replied that it is all good to have fun, but if you are going to structure your thread around science, you ought to make some effort/gesture to accomodate science.
Where are your controls, she asks. Where is the data on clothed GoH vs topless/nude GoH vis-a-vis total satisfaction? What measures/values/quantifiable results demonstrate any credibility, dependability, or confirmability? What are the benchmarks, the repeatable phenomenon, the goals that allow repeatability of results and reliable forecasting of outcome? She ended her riff by suggesting that you will never get head from a scientist if this is the sloppy methodology you demonstrate - that there must be some accountability here. I never thought that there would be a reason for you to revisit the structure of your study until my Lady opened my eyes. The very real possibility exists that there are men out there who could be deprived of Scientific Method based improvement in the head they may get. Simply because these men are not willing to give science it's due :shakehead: Now, I tell you from first hand experience that when a thoroughbred decides to go for improvement, repeatable results and refinement of various techniques which are all dedicated to outcome, there is no substitute for guided experience coupled with applied sensual intelligence. My .02 cents. |
Communication is key. If that doesn't work, run away as fast as you can.
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So Kramus... did your lovely lady offer to assist you in furthering the science of this or was she just blowing smoke (so to speak).
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My fave blowjobs have always started by pinning my man against a wall or door, and slowly pulling my clothes off as I tease him. My method is similar to lindy from there on, pressing myself against him, and finally touching his cock with my tongue. Like lindy, one of the main reasons I give blowjobs topless is because of the opportunity for titty fucking, and because my man is more likely to play with my breasts during a blowjob if they're uncovered, which I love. :thumbsup: And I have to agree with ItWasMe... I fail to see how a man could feel dominant during a blowjob...with perhaps one exception: when a man thrusts himself into your mouth. Yeah, he really has control/dominance there, for a short while. But, when I give a blowjob, the man turns to jello, and I do as I please... haha. |
I like getting my hair brushed while I'm doing it. As for being topless, I think we're both pretty much always naked when messing around. There is something great about bare skin on bare skin, no matter which body parts are involved.
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What? HUH? Oh, it's on! I'll deal with this mockery in a bit. I'm off to do more research, but I'll handle this insulting critique soon. |
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I'm turned on by athletes. I love watching the athletic men run around the field in tight pants. My idea of a little slice of heaven is to give a bj while watching a football game on TV. My husband is completely turned off when watching sports, though. This makes football season a long, sexually frustrating time of the year. This girly's nipples are extra sensitive. I'd rather do it with a bra or shirt and keep control over the situation. Otherwise I end up pleasured before he does, and that - while fun - ruins the sense of dominance. |
Yeah, this thread just made me hot...again. *wanders off to ponder how I can get reliable good sex without actually having to date to do it*
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Example - have you heard of 2-point perception testing? Where you determine nerve density and composition by using a pair of sharp points pressed into skin and vary the distance between the points? The goal is to see how far apart the points are before there is a distinct perception of 2 separate places of contact. In the early days of our relationship I sat on a couch, eyes closed, while my Lady applied broken toothpicks to my rampant courting-tackle. She was amazed at how few nerve endings were apparent in some of the different areas tested. It was, shall we say, unnerving. The application of hot and cold - ice cubes and hot coffee - those experiments are sometimes still brought into play. Or foreign objects such as an olive pit held in her mouth and applied with varied speed/pressure to my essentials. Humming, sighs, various tools such as the use of vibrators on my scrotum/shaft/glans . . . been there many times. Positional changes, light changes, types of eye contact with and without mirrors. What is said and how, the presentation of breasts, back, belly - how the hair is held in the hands (mine or hers), left loose, or tied in pony tails (the position of the pony tail varies depending on whether it is to be used as a handle or a visual prop, we find). What sorts of places, public, indoor, outdoor, natural or man-made give the greatest thrill or allow her as the GoH the greatest freedom of movement when doing her thing. What kinds of music. If in water, should the water be running as in a shower, still like in a bath, cold like a stream, deeper and underwater like in a pool, heated like a hot tub, indoors or out, what is a good immersion depth for me, for her . . . Should I be filming the act, the orgasm, experiencing the orgasm with various types of either her or my own hand contact or her licking tongue. If suction is applied during the orgasm how much and with what varied types of sucking action before, during and after orgasm? How long to continue to lick or to suck, to wipe my still stiff cock across her lips and cheeks, or stroke with her hands? While telling me about how she had enjoyed my orgasm she goes through a checklist to determine what could be done to improve it or change it up. And most important - give her a number :thumbsup: Was it an 8, a 9, maybe only a 5 or a 6 - once a 10 (but I always say 10's mean you die, so they don't happen often). Charlatan, I can say without fear of contradiction that my Lady does not just blow smoke, and the Scientific Method is often brought into play in the Manor. Quote:
If willing, please post pictures - my Lady is out of town and I'm horny after running a speed-tape of knowledge gained in the Manor through my mind in order to write this post :crazy: |
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Wow. My first inclination is to answer 'topless is obviously better', but after reading Kramus' recounting of rigorous experiments, I no longer have any confidence in how accurate my statement was. I am in awe of his Lady, and wondering if she offers lessons to other women?
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Naturally Kramus hasn't pointed out how massively flawed her methods are, since she only has a sample population of one....
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Leave it to Crompsin to do a scientific study with no actual science. Or study. Buddy, I'm amazed that we aren't learning that this study is "conducted" with no one else in the room, simply using your own legendary flexibility.
Crompsin: self-abuse pioneer. Coming soon to Tilted Exhibition - Crompsin's Roll Back Foto's! Did I cover the gamut there? Let's see, witty quip, pearl of wisdom, mockery of your butchery of your mother tongue. Yep. Got it all. |
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... The gamut was covered. Yes, I am satisfied. Was it good for you? "Duh." Oh, you're such a kidder. ... Truth be told: I tested my half-ass hypothesis yet again this weekend and additional factors came into play: man standing while topless woman is sitting on the floor proves to be utterly satisfying in a pulling-up-carpet-with-my-toes / pert nipples grazing my thighs kinda way and issues related to room temperature and body position became a new concern. As previously mentioned: general feeling is that topless is always better and that breasts, the source of life and amusement for many men, should be involved in every blowjob. So far the thread consensus follows my finding. Further "research" will be necessary to prove boobs = doubleplusgood satisfaction causation. I'm willing to continue this laborious endeavor in the name of science, waking up sleeping roommates, and prostate health. It's a tough job, but somebody has to clench their teeth as their soul is vacuumed out of their inflamed crotchbat. And that somebody is Crompsin. ... Fuck, it's hot outside and it isn't even summer yet. Can it be too hot for oral sex? Mmm, another thread brewing. COMING SOON FROM UNIVERSITY OF CROMPSIN: Female-on-top positions and proper box fan placement. |
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However, there is a key consideration regarding the sample population my Lady is working with that is very relevant to Ratbastid's post. My Lady is not creating data for the benefit of the larger world. There is no intent to add to anything outside of our own relationship. Understand this, she is applying herself to one goal and one goal only. That goal is my own personal pleasure and my complete satisfaction with her and what she does with/to me. My orgasm is her orgasm. My having an ever-upward climb in my sexual satisfaction within our pair-bond makes her happy, fulfilled and satisfied. That sample size of one is the end-goal of her study, her application, her rigour. That in turn means that you need to invert that statement, Ratbastid. My Lady's methods are not massively flawed. Indeed, they are quite the opposite. They are perfectly applied and yielding results which are (trust me in this) very positive. /threadjack Now, if Charlatan had not asked if my Lady was just blowing smoke I would have only made my original post regarding some concerns that I had heard about Crompsin's "science". Being the recipient of a dedicated scientist's study in the arts of eros makes it worthwhile to at least let people out there know that true science, when brought into play in this particular manner, is totally awesome :thumbsup: I have responded to Charlatan and let him know that if there are smoke and mirrors being brought into play in the Manor, it is because they are being used as pleasure props. Any further study, any larger sample size, any other application of what can be learned regarding GoH and increase of pleasure in the RoH is not the concern of this couple. We are doing our own part, using the scientific method to make beautiful love even more so, and we are very happy doing it. If other couples (such as the self-proclaimed sex-geek Shaindra) take what we have been doing and explore/expand on it themselves that is great. It is however, not a goal to go outside our own pair-bond and accumulate data sets involving cocks other than mine :) /end threadjack |
Well rebutted, my friend. :thumbsup:
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If you find out, let me know, please. For the record, I like to leave my bra on. Just a personal preference. |
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Topless most of the time, definitely. But some of the most memorable I've gotten were fully clothed. It comes across as slightly illicit, which is cool. I'm thinking of one time I spent a night with my partner, and in the morning we got dressed and I was getting ready to leave for work, when she sat me down, unzipped me and gave me a bj (making me late for work, but that was ok). She actually wanted to give me a second one the same way and make me even later. I should have taken her up on it ;).
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snowy/Shanindra/Lindy, I wish my girl reads this thread :)
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I prefer topless due to visual stimulation, touch/feel. Forget about BJ, even a self handjob works great with a pair of boobs to see ;) ---------- Post added at 10:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 PM ---------- Quote:
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I'll have you all know that my "science" is good for prostate health.
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hmmmm, lets see.....blowjob from topless woman or blowjob from woman wearing top.....
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Clearly both topless and clothed methods must still be studied extensively. Sorry I can't be of further help ;) :rolleyes: |
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Damnitall. Please stop bumping this thread while I am sans partner to test out these theories further.
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Of course it's better topless. If I were still clothed, I wouldn't be that into it.
Once a lady's topless, it becomes a much more sensual experience. More sensual = more aroused = enhanced experience for all. |
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You gotta put a little effort in to get that cream filling. It can't be that hard. You're holding the commodity between your chin and nose. ... Or... just get on Craig's List and it'll come right to you. |
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And CL? Gah! I'll buy a used lawnmower on there, but a second-hand cock? No thanks. |
I have to agree ... even topless ax murdering is better than fully clothed. I mean, If you have to be ax murdered anyway, seeing a pair of boobies as the blade does its nasty work is the way to go.
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