TrashBag

I'm Not shur Where to put this so ill put it here.
I Just Turned 18 and im dating a 15 year old.

The phrase statutory rape is a term used in some legal jurisdictions to describe consensual sexual relations that take place when an individual (regardless of gender) has sexual relations with an individual not old enough to legally consent to the behavior.Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent,

Alright i Live in North Carolina.
The age of consent in North Carolina is 16, though no school faculty member can have any sexual activity with any student except when married to the person {§14‑27.7}. Any sexual intercourse with a person under 16 years of age is prohibited unless the defendant is less than 4 years older than the victim except when married to the person {§14‑27.2, 14‑27.4 & 14‑27.7A}.

§ 14‑27.7A. Statutory rape or sexual offense of person who is 13, 14, or 15 years old.

(a) A defendant is guilty of a Class B1 felony if the defendant engages in vaginal intercourse or a sexual act with another person who is 13, 14, or 15 years old and the defendant is at least six years older than the person, except when the defendant is lawfully married to the person.

(b) A defendant is guilty of a Class C felony if the defendant engages in vaginal intercourse or a sexual act with another person who is 13, 14, or 15 years old and the defendant is more than four but less than six years older than the person, except when the defendant is lawfully married to the person.

If i Read This Right Aslong as thay Consent To having Sex After the Age of 16 I Can Not have Statutory Rape Charges Pressed on me?


Website's used If you cant under stand my spelling sorry.


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telekinetic

So what's your question again? If the legal statements you quoted are accurate and comprehensive, it is illegal to have sex with your girlfriend until she turns 16. Is that what you're asking?

Also, by the half age plus seven rule of creepy age dating, you should ALSO wait until she's 16.

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Jinn

Stay in school.

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FlatLand Flyer

As I read it you are not committing statutory rape if you have sex with her now because you are less than four years older than her.

TrashBag

She's Soon to be 16 So. After she Turn's 16. Ill be Fine. And it's To Late to stay in School. i Quit at the age of 14 Id be 21 in 10 Grade So yea.

Was just Wanting to know After she turned 16 if i wood be safe with out being locked up.

telekinetic

*feigned shock*

Anyways, re-reading, FLF may be right, although just because it isn't against those two laws doesn't mean it isn't against another one (may be a misdemeanor, for example).

Anything else I could say here would just be threadjack...

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tenchi069

If you are sincerely concerned about this, do one of two things.

1. Stop having/don't have sex with her.

2. Seek legal counsel from a registered defence lawyer in the state you live in. Any advice you get from someone who is not a lawyer that is registered to practice law in the state you live in should be only taken as suggestion. The black and white ( depending on which TFP skin you are using ) is very clear on who what and where, but there are other things to consider such as case law and precedence.

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SecretMethod70

and start studying to get your GED, at the very least.

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Leto

Especially if you start looking at his ability to communicate via the English written word.

I echo the sentiments above, return to school. Finish. Focus on the important things like preparing yourself for a life of global competition if you want to have a decent standard of living. It's never too late to return to school. Lots of people do it. Let the poor girl focus on items more important than satisfying your carnal desires. I.E,, tie a sock around if for a while. You can do it.

You put a lot of research and study into the definition of Statutory Rape. Too bad that you didn't see how important it was to do the same with your high school studies, as the long run payout is even more exciting. If you care for her, don't distract your girlfriend from trying to accomplish her goals. Man up and support her.

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Tully Mars

GED dude.

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The_Jazz

This is a much nicer version of what I was going to say.

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kutulu

Condescending much, people? He's asking for advice and instead everyone rips into him for not being in school. That's all good advice but isn't pertinent to the question.

Trashbag: The way I see it you are in the clear. Although she's under 16 you are not more than 4 years older than her. Use protection.

vanblah

That only works if they are both minors. He's not a minor. He'll at least have to wait until she is 16 and even then if her father has a problem with it I'd hate to be in his shoes.

kutulu

The law says nothing about them both being minors. It is specifically worded that way to allow relationships for people of high school age.

Willravel

I couldn't agree more. Snootiness doesn't suit anyone in this thread, and it's a little embarrassing as a member of the community to see this kind of response.

TB, you're almost certainly in the clear (legally) judging by what I can find, but it may be prudent to wait until she's 16 if you're even a little unsure. And since her birthday is right around the corner, it doesn't seem to be a big sacrifice. My humble suggestion, despite the fact you're almost certainly in the clear, is to wait.

vanblah

True. I didn't read it closely enough. I still wouldn't want to be the guy if the girls father turns out to be "not-so-cool" with it.

botabota

Give it to her as her 16th birthday gift ..... use protection

Leto

It's not snootiness... it's profound uneasiness around the priorities displayed. Judgemental? Yes, but hardly for no reason.

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high_jinx

Good advice.... but if everyone could and did take it, there'd be no one left to flip our burgers and bag our groceries. or at least they'd hate doing it with that kind of education.

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SecretMethod70

yes but perhaps we'd have robots to do it for us instead by then

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highthief

It wouldn't be the same TFP if the condescension went away.

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World's King

I have a good way to avoid the possibility of statutory rape...




Stick to fucking girls your own age.

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PonyPotato

From what I understand of rape laws:

Because the age of consent is 16, you may still be charged with rape if you have sex with her. Because you are less than 4 years her senior, you may not be charged with STATUTORY rape.

Is my understanding of rape/consent laws flawed, or is this correct?

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Tully Mars

This stuff all varies state by state. In Oregon (sorry, my only experience with any of this)-

In Oregon per ORS 163.315 you can not give consent if you're-

If you're over 18 and having sexual relations with a person under 16 you can be charged with Rape II, the person under 16 simply can not give consent ergo rape.


This could have changed the, ORS I'm working with was printed in the late 90's.

Personally I'd stick with WK's advice and sleep with people your own age.

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Tully Mars

Only if you're sitting in your trailer house, eating mayonnaise sandwiches and doing unspeakable things to some 14 yr old chick who you're not sure but might be related.

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genuinegirly

TrashBag - I would be careful in your situation. It *sounds* like you're clear, but I'm not a lawyer.

I don't recall seeing you in other threads - welcome to the TFP. I hope these intellectual snobs don't drive you away.

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blahblah454

I like your handle... I see stereotypes floating through my head at this thread and it is making me giggle.

I bring nothing to the table, I will now leave.

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Tully Mars

Touché!

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mandy

/threadjack

Exactly what i was thinking throughout reading this entire thread...wow guys...

And him asking for advice didnt even come through to me while reading this...all that i was thinking was how can these people...the family i've come to know and love so dearly be so condescending?

No one knows why this guy is not in school and even if we did, it would not be our business. I get the trying to help bit but that is just not the right way to go about it. Ganging up on the guy who comes here for help and advice because his life circumstances are not what you call normal?

I saw another case such as this in tilted technology where a guy probably should not have phrased his question or problem the way he did and everyone who answered that thread completely ganged up on him telling him in not so many words that he's shitty for coming in there and asking people to do his work for him and "we dont do other people's homework". Maybe the guy was wanting to ask for all the suggestions of posting his work so that you guys could try and help him figure out where it had gone wrong and so forth...but you guys were just too (we have a saying here in SA - Afrikaans saying - Vinnig op jou perdjie) it means (direct translation - too quick on your horse)

but guys, seriously...the forum i joined three years ago, taught me (seriously) to ask and get to the core of the matter and try to come up with a solution in a fashionable manner before passing any judgement whatsoever...

take a leaf guys and be the people i know you can be and who you taught me to be.

/end threadjack

That being said...i know absolutely fuckall about the law but i do suggest that you take the advice being given to you by the others and just know that they're good people and they mean well and i hope they didnt scare you away.

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Xerxys

I have nothing to offer as well, but a lack of common sense, what does over 18 mean, I get if your "OVER" 18 years old (19, 20, 21) but what if you were 18 years old?? Like the OP??

To interpret it literally, I would think he's not in the clear. I take over 18 to mean >> OF 18 YEARS OLD AND ABOVE << Hence, he should wait.

MSD

If you can't figure out whether or not something is creepy without doing math, you need to find better things to do with your time than applying an arbitrary rule to social interaction.

Leto

careful, you'll get accused of being condescending.

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telekinetic

I didn't make the rule, I just like to mention it where applicable.



Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also:

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kutulu

Careful you might sound like an elitist. He asked for help and the people here acted like dicks to him. As usual, the rules only apply to attacks made towards long time posters. Feel free to attack the newbs that might not be as smart as the rest of us.

FlatLand Flyer

How is it creepy? He just wants to know how the good people here on this board read the law that he provided. It would be consensual sex (I assume) and he just wants to make sure that his ass doesn't get thrown in jail for doing something with his willing girl in private.

Nobody here had sex when they were 15 or younger?

Leto

Elitist? hardly. And hardly acting like dicks. More like seriously stunned at the priorities displayed. After the shock wears off, there were sincere attempts to point out what the long term benefits are to adopting a different approach. This is help. It may not be what he wanted to hear, but there you go.

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You held my hand and we walked home the long way
You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr

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pig

Funny twisted: I did this one a long time ago, for a thread far far away:

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Milnoc

There's your answer! Marry her!

(You never know! Some relationships last forever!)

As for getting your GED, that depends on your skills. What are you good at? And can you go to a technical or vocational college for that? Not only can a trade earn you a decent living, but you could also possibly launch your own business down the line. I find that to be a much better option than going to college and university for years and accumulating a huge student debt, only to become someone else's work slave until retirement age -- that is if you're not laid off during a recession first.