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Old 11-26-2008, 11:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So My gf and I have this thing sometimes where she will take a sleeping pill, and I will wait till she falls asleep and have sex with her. This is all pre planned and she knows it will happen. Well, she kept calling me Michael during this, now at first I thought she was a little out of it, but it kept happening repeatedly, she even came consious and called me that. we have had sex on a lot of illicit drugs, coke, 2cb, e, mushrooms, acid, etc...sometimes mixing 3 of them and having sex, and that never happened before. So I am wondering, is she cheating on me?
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Old 11-26-2008, 11:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Definitely. The pills, sleep, and drugs in their myriad combinations could not possibly have affected her brain in such a manner as to cause her to say another man's name during sex. Cheating is the only possibility.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would wonder more about all the illicit drugs than the cheating to be honest.

Also, the whole "taking a sleeping pill and then being taken advantage of" is asking for trouble, unless you both trust each other 100%.

What if you have a messy breakup and suddenly she decides this wasn't preplanned anymore?
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Is there a Michael in her life that you know about, either real or fictional, that it could be? A guy at the office she has a crush on but he doesn't know? Hero in a book (especially romance) that she has recently read? (especially if this is a book series). An actor or movie character that she swoons over? Does she watch Knight Rider (Michael Knight), earlier that night? If I ever started moaning "James" in my sleep, I can just about guarantee you it's a 007 (James Bond) dream, probably starring Sean Connery. Hey, what can I say? I'm a girl.

Ask her point blank, casually, who is Michael? When she asks why, tell her what she's been saying.

Or go the head trip route. Next time she's moaning his name, whisper that 'this is our last time...I've found someone else...you really should have stayed with angeltek.' Then buy her flowers and sign the card "Michael," watch the reaction. Ask her later how she liked the flowers you sent. "...well you keep moaning Michael in your sleep, so I figured it was your new pet name for me..." But only do that if you want to drive her away for playing mind games.
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you two can't openly talk about this then you certainly shouldn't be drugging and fucking each other silly.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Have you asked her about this? Could it be a fantasy in her mind? An old boyfriend? Is she playing with you? Maybe you misheard her? There's no way to know without asking.

Tell her that she does this and ask her who Michael is.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If you two can't openly talk about this then you certainly shouldn't be drugging and fucking each other silly.
REALLY. This is a DANGEROUS game, given the level of communication between you two. It's been hinted at above, but really, you've got to get this--she could be one phone call away from having you locked up for many many years.

That aside (to whatever extent it can be): This Michael cat is certainly in her mind, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's in her pants. Up to you whether that's a problem for you.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Like the others said, you just have to talk with her about it.

It could be as simple as an ex-boyfriend. She just got used to saying his name and it pops up from time to time.

I could be that she is seeing someone else, usually their will be other signs of infidelity.

Good luck! I hope you figure this out.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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... I wouldn't be worried about the names thing. I'd be worried about the drugs.
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Old 11-27-2008, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Jerry Springer'd!

... I wouldn't be worried about the names thing. I'd be worried about the drugs.
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Yet again, Cromp trumps me.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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get her consent in writing..then you can do that shit with the drugs. otherwise ratbastids right.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the Drug thing is a once in a blue moon thing and has been for the last year and a half. we used to be addicted to E, but managed to quit together. We do have a lot of trust in each other. But I dunno if I can trust her anymore. I confronted her on it, and she told me she doesn't know any micheals...yet she has 4 on facebook. One of which is an adopted cousin that she used to have a thing for. She said there isn't even any celebs that she is fantasising over that is named michael.

I dunno...
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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well if shes telling you she doesnt know any michaels and she has 4 on facebook, then theres a reason to be concerned in my opinion.

ask her if she wants to do the sleeping pill thing again. if she declines or is very hesitant, you have more reason to be worried. i guess my method is called "smoking her out". pun intended of course.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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get her consent in writing..then you can do that shit with the drugs.
... something about getting written consent for consensual activities in a relationship seems way creepy.

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Take that walk, chief.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ok so you know she has been in contact with a guy / guys called michael on facebook - is it possible that she's just fantasising about them unconciously considering that she is drugged up during the incident/s in question (which I acknowledge is consensual) ?

I know you say she became concious during one of these events but sleepers take a LONG time to wear off - one of the reasons they're generally prescribed to be taken so early in the evening.

So it's highly possible she's just fantasising unconciously - can you say that you've never dreamt / thought about another woman while with her - at all in any way shape or form ? If so you're sure as heck a better person then me.

To me it sounds like she's been asleep, you've started up and her brain has kickstarted a few old fantasies she has and she's responded mentally and vocally to bother what's happening to her body (you) and what's happening mentally (her mind),

I wouldn't be too stressed out over it - you've been seeing eachother for awhile she obviously loves and trusts you (the once in a blue moon sleeping pill thing takes alot of trust on her part) - stop looking for problems angeltek.

Edit:

As for the facebook thing maybe she's said she doesn't know anyone called Michael because she's not really seeing them or talking to them regularly - I have people on my myspace / facebook pages that I talk to maybe a few times a year. I wouldn't even think of them if asked that question.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This is one of the dumbest threads ever and me responding to it makes me even dumber I suppose. Off hand, I would say it's the drugs maybe.

The mind halucinates.

When my mother was in the hospital and they were giving her pain killers, she would say things like, "the donkey is in the coner", and "we're all going to eat cake" whle being in a drug induced sleep. Do you think that that meant something? Was she secretly fantasizing about having sex with a donkey, or worse yet, whilst eating cake?

If you're going to call it quits with your GF over something so silly, she's better off alone. People are entitled to their thoughts.

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Old 11-28-2008, 07:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This is one of the dumbest threads ever and me responding to it makes me even dumber I suppose. Off hand, I would say it's the drugs maybe. ... People are entitled to their thoughts.
C'mon, it's not that dumb.

TFP needs a dumberest star rating or something. This is only like 6 out of 10 possible dumbitudeness stars.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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C'mon, it's not that dumb.

TFP needs a dumberest star rating or something. This is only like 6 out of 10 possible dumbitudeness stars.
He's right. Just check out some my posts in the "Politics" or "Economics" sections.

Remember the "My boyfriend wants me to poo on his chest" thread not too far back?

8, maybe 9/10.
My response was a couple of paragraphs long to that one.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I dont know man. It can be either. Its really hard to say! Ask her about Michael or lol say someone else's name in your "sleep" and then you guys can talk about it together. Make her go first, and then when it comes to your part just tell her u didnt know how else to ask her about Michael lol. thats the best i can do
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Sounds hot

When taking sleeping pills or SSRIs, you can get dreams that seem so real that you don't know if they actually happened or not.

I would also recommend getting it in writing, her writing. Have her write up a note telling you what she wants you to do to her.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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C'mon, it's not that dumb.

TFP needs a dumberest star rating or something. This is only like 6 out of 10 possible dumbitudeness stars.
Pretty much the only way to get 10 is to start another "I fingered my girlfriend, is she pregnant?" thread.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I've taken a good number of 'sleeping pills' while deployed, and I have never had one put me out so deeply that I wouldn't wake up if someone started messing with me.

What is she taking and how much? And even if she really is taking a magic knockout pill, do you think maybe she is faking the sleep a little bit?
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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you could try doing her in der poopenhausen and see if she calls out a different name.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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wow.

really. I don't know which I'm more shocked about.. the fact that you fuck your girl after she's asleep without written consent.. or you admitting that you use all that shit.

I'm not going to dog you for using anything..I'm a former addict myself.. however..

wtf are you thinking?

I've said quite a few things that made absolutely no sense while on Ambien.

and read Manic's post again. no.. read it 12 times.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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after she's asleep without written consent..
Okay... show of hands, please.

Who has a written consent form prepared for sex?
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:42 AM   #27 (permalink)
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And right after that...

Show of hands: Who thinks it might be a bad idea to do so after she's asleep (and without possibility of waking up) without written consent?

It's not a common request, so there's probably no standardised consent forms for it around.

Crompsin, at some point all those stories about rape-drugs and girls getting drugged up and abused have to start popping into your head, warning you that what you're doing might not be the smartest move.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:08 PM   #28 (permalink)
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1. I think maybe the reaction would have been a little different here had you only been coked or methed out. But, not only are you mixing drugs (bad, bad drugs at that), you're also waiting until she "passes out" to have sex with her. Although you say it's preplanned, it's a situation that just begs for trouble. It'd probably be in your best interest to stop.

2. How old are you? You're acting like a jealous little boy. Even when no drugs are involved, you should not automatically assume that she's cheating on you because she called out Michael in the heat of passion. Maybe she was dreaming about "Halloween" or just fantasizing in general to help herself get off. If you two are REALLY that serious, sit down and talk about it. It's really not that big of a deal and it happens to couples.

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Old 12-05-2008, 01:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Okay... show of hands, please.

Who has a written consent form prepared for sex?
actually, it's a quite common practice especially in the BDSM world to have a contract of sexual practices that are consented to.

when you're mixing drugs, a jealous b/f and a sleeping girl.. you better have your form or you're fucked plain and simple
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:44 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Pretty much the only way to get 10 is to start another "I fingered my girlfriend, is she pregnant?" thread.
10 would be "I fingered my boyfriend, am I pregnant?"
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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10 would be "I fingered my boyfriend, am I pregnant?"
LOL!! That would be an 11, maybe a 12.
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:13 AM   #32 (permalink)
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LOL!! That would be an 11, maybe a 12.
seriously? You can't get pregnant that way?

That's a load off my shoulders.
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