Strippers=Hookers?
 

So I went to a strip club tonight. I always feel uncomfortable there; but there is a commercial dancer at my school who does it on the side. I told her I'd go see her (jokingly) and she dropped by my place tonight and dragged me out with her.

I get there, strippers are being strippers, approaching me, etc and Julia sends a cute one over to me who says no charge and pulls me upstairs. [Dance break]. I'm back downstairs and another comes up to me and by then I'd had a few beer in me and I say "fuck it, why not".

As soon as I get upstairs she covers up the "no ANYTHING" sign and tells me she does extras. I'm shocked. It must of been clear because she tells me that everyone does it. "Do you want to fuck?".

I'm good, thanks.

But what the fuck, guys? Is this normal? I must admit my strip club experience is limited but I've never had this happen?

So has this ever happened to you? And any strip club experiences to share? I feel like a goddamn 15 year old kid.

All I can say is....

what happens in vegas, stays in vegas

and in NYC

there are underground clubs where you can get lapdances that last 45 minutes for $20, and some places for $10 you can stick a finger in.

you can find strippers that give 'extras' all over. it's pretty common. does that make them hookers? yeah, pretty much. but i think the line between a no-extra's stripper and a hooker is pretty grey to begin with. both perform sex acts for money.

It's not outside of the norm. Still, there are many strippers that only strip. I don't particularly like strip clubs, but I've been to a few and I was offered an intriguing deal at one. I respectfully declined. I can't imagine agreeing to it.

In Australia, I've seen them have a live sex show on stage with someone the girl randomly picked out of the crowd. And she did it every 90 minutes at least 4 or 5 times while I was there. She was pretty good looking (no one here would have turned her down outside of the club), but I didn't par take or even wanted to partake in the activities there even though there was no extra cost. I don't know if that was an isolated incident or something that happens more often outside of Kings Cross/Sydney.

In Canada, they can offer stuff on the side. I may have to investigate this, but I'm not too interested in taking part in it.

In Vegas, I must have gone to a crappy club. It wasn't very good. And there was nothing extra going on, and there was so much smoke and the lights were so low you couldn't make out much of anything else.

In Ohio, even though there may be a 6 foot rule, the place I've been it was more like 6mm. Or whatever the thickness of the fabric of your pants is. It was pretty much simulated sex or dry humping with your clothes on, but she was naked. It was really hot and just what I was looking for.

They all bleed the same...

Hahahahaha..... they really do.

If they're on the pill, they know which days to take off.

I never had been to a strip club yet... curious though
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I admit it is very hot & tempting ...

They were referencing American Psycho... not a menstrual cycle.

I wasn't aware strippers offer sexual services for money. Doesn't this make them nothing more than hookers who happen to actually hold down a real job? Strange.

I never thought hookers are less than strippers
or strippers are more than hookers

I've been to a strip club once, and the one time I did go, it was pretty much enough to convince me to never go again. Colorado has two types of strip clubs: no booze, all nude and booze, topless only. For some reason my friend from high school and me and a friend of ours decided at about 1:00 AM that it would be fun to go to a strip club. Why? Who knows, but off we went.

First we went to a booze+topless only place, but last call was at 1:45, so that didn't really last long. Then we went to a non-booze+all nude place, which stay open on weekends until some ungodly hour. 5? 6? Anyway, so we're sitting there watching girls get naked, turning down private room dances. Some of the girls are pretty cute, and it was generally entertaining.

And then we saw a girl we went to high school with. And not that hot cheerleader that everyone hoped would become a stripper. No no. The awkward, quiet girl in the corner with unbrushed hair, thick glasses and shapeless clothing. Now, to her credit, she did look much better than she did in high school, but she didn't look "CAN I PLEASE SEE YOU NAKED NOW?!?" good. And the cognitive dissonance was almost too much for my brain to bear.

Fortunately, I'm pretty sure she only recognized my friend and didn't recognize me, so phew on that one. None of us were propositioned that night, though. And my buddy who goes to strip clubs regularly in Vegas says he hasn't been, either. Obviously it happens once in a while, but I don't think you can count on it being part of the deal...assuming that's what you're looking for in the first place.

I don't think it's strange.

Choosing stripping as a career would sound like something one would do to make some good cash while paying the least amount of taxes.

I'd imagine that if one were in it for the money, there would be some that would do anything to take advantage and try to make a little more supplemental income off the books.

Some, sure. But not all.

A good friend of mine swears she's quit stripping forever, despite the excellent money she was making at it. REALLY beautiful girl, I don't doubt for a second that she did as well as she says she did. But she's given it up because the culture around the clubs in our area has changed--the rules have gotten lax and, as she says, "I don't want strangers touching me."

By the way, strippers are in it for the money. Nobody's a stripper because they really like performing--those people do community theater. Strippers are in it for the money, and a visitor to a club forgets that at the peril of his wallet.

I've never been offered anything extra, but then again I never pay the big bucks to get into the back room either.

A long time ago, back in the age of dinosaurs, not only before there was a The_Wife and even before there was a The_Girlfriend, there was The_Jazz as a solo act. It was even more pitiful than what you see today.

The_Jazz, a man alone, went to San Francisco for business by himself. Business was done and good business was written. It was a glorious day. The business associates took The_Jazz to a nice dinner in downtown SF and then dropped him at his hotel. Being young and dumb, he decided to have a nightcap at the hotel bar. Interesting conversations took place and he found himself at a bar down the street. Another round followed, and The_Jazz decided to go back to the hotel for some well-deserved rest. Two or three wrong turns later, he found himself outside of the Mitchell Brothers Theater. Having heard of the Mitchell Brothers, he ventured inside. Again, being alone is key. There were several strippers in various stages of undress at different stages. He enjoyed the visual feast in front of him and was approached by several for "private" dancers. Eventually he was convinced by a nice young brunette.

Once back in the private curtain area, paid for in 20 minute blocks, he was handed a menu of options, printed and laminated, and advised that condoms were available.

Enough said.

I was under the impression that the 'extras' don't involve penetration? So does that still make them "hookers"? I am not quite sure. A good book to read if you're interested in a stripper's perspective is Candy Girl by Diablo Cody. She was an ex-stripper and she wrote a memoir. It's a quick read.

candy girl was a good read, but not really great for looking for a strippers perspective, imho. from what i've heard, she went into the stripping with the intent of writing the book, not because of any financial need but more to get famous, and (it's been awhile since i read it) i don't remember there really being all that much seedy about it. there's a book called "a strippers tail: confessions of a las vegas dancer" (yes, tale is spelled tail in it, and i could have the subtitle wrong) which paints a much more realistic version of what goes on in there from a strippers perspective. but for a memoir, diablo cody comes off much much more trustworthy as a narrator than the lady who wrote "tail." she (tail, not diablo) talks about all the bad stuff she saw the other girls doing but claims innocence herself, has horrible spelling and grammar problems (i don't think anyone edited it), and comes off as a pretty petty person. so i wouldn't really recommend reading 'a strippers tail', just that there's better stuff out there if you want a strippers perspective (and plenty of stuff by call-girls that are surprisingly well written).

Well, extras could involve handjobs. Or blowjobs. Or actual penetration. All were on the menu I saw. And I've been offered handjobs more than once, but I've never even thought about it because these days I'm in those places exclusively for work. Tough job, I know.

yes we know about the sheep story... :paranoid: oh wait that was the guy drinking with you, not you.

If you read the sheep story, you'll realize that everyone had their clothes on the whole time and that there were no women involved in it at all. We were just scammed into buying someone a pitcher with one of the most horrifying stories ever.

uhm... what do you do and how can i do it too? :surprised:

he's a nipple tweaker for the strip clubs, helps keeps those girls perky on stage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...jlo_nipple.jpg

even JLo's got one.

I've been to strip clubs three times. They're not really my thing, as most of the girls are young enough to be my daughter. I might have been propositioned once, back when I was in my early 20s, but I'm not sure because the music was so damned loud I couldn't hear what she was trying to whisper in my ear.

I'm going to KILL my high school career counselor. :orly:

hang on a sec...wasnt there a diner story too??or have i muddled them up?

I used to attend over half the NBA Trailblazer games in PDX. My brother and I shared season tix. Most of the time I took an employee, on major games night my brother I both went. Often we'd have dinner at the one of the local strip clubs. A decent steak was like $3, turns out they make their money from tips- who knew? PDX has a large number of these clubs. Most of the clubs are very specific about "NO TOUCHING Dancers" and the quality of food surprisingly good. One night while with my brother we ventured into a club much closer to the arena. The food there sucked, but it turns out so did the dancers for an extra $30. I stuck with the crappy food.

It's official, this thread is hilarious. :lol:

My bachelor party has been described as a "crime against humanity". Suffice to say that some guests were experiencing interactions from multiple substances and the entertainment stayed 2 hours longer than booked. I mention it because recently learned that 3 of them (who inly hazily remember) were selling favors behind the bar (we were in the basement away from all the civvies). Apparently one of the strippers did a line of coke off of one of my coworker's cock.

I'm still conflicted on how I feel about that.

'line of coke off' means?
And why conflicted? :o

You think that's bad? My first concern upon reading this sentence was whether or not "coworker's" should have been plural. I don't think I'm jaded, I just think I'm used to having fun.

Shouldn't it be "co-worker's cocks"?

It's the "one of my" that kinda throws in a curve ball. I think the correct grammar is "Apparently one of the strippers did a line of coke off of one of my coworkers' cocks." Without the "one of my", it can remain singular: "Apparently one of the strippers did a line of coke off of my coworker's cock."

Hmm. I see it as "one of his cocks", using the singular coworker as reference point. But I see your rationale, too.

I'm blamin' it on The_Jazz for throwin' that curve.

Willravel's a fun guy. He can turn a thread about hookers and strippers into a grammar discussion. That said, I was thinking the same thing.

You know, it's always fun with the coke and hookers until the grammar nerds show up.

Christ, you guys are more concerned with the split preposition than you are the fact that there were guys tapping out bumps onto their members for the naked chicks. I will add you all to my ever-growing list of folks lost in the forest whilst looking for the trees.

*pats Jazz on the shoulder* I'm still here, Jazz. I don't judge.

It's not the last time that coke snorting whores have been referred to as the forest and I hope it won't be the last.

It warms my heart to hear you say that, bud.