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sound chaser 08-15-2008 08:49 AM

ethnic preferences in dating - is it discriminatory?
 
I really like indian women (from india in asia, not native american) and would love to date one.

But is it wrong to have an ethnic preference as to whom one wants to date? Is it being too discriminatory? Is it any different from saying that one only likes to date blondes or women with long hair?

Willravel 08-15-2008 08:55 AM

It strikes me as being discriminatory if you hate or have intolerance, but simply being attracted to a member of a race doesn't seem hateful or intolerant.

Jinn 08-15-2008 08:56 AM

No. It's a personal preference, but a categorical belief about their ability or disability, or even one known to the general public.

If you really want to get down to pedantic, it can't be called discriminatory if it isn't known. Who knows your thoughts but you?

Martian 08-15-2008 08:58 AM

I prefer women with long, dark hair. Am I discriminating against blondes?

Do what makes you happy. As long as you're not hurting anyone, there's no reason to worry about it.

Bill O'Rights 08-15-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sound chaser (Post 2507644)
But is it wrong to have an ethnic preference as to whom one wants to date?

Absolutely not.

It's the same as my own preference to redheads. It's what you find attractive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sound chaser (Post 2507644)
Is it being too discriminatory?

That's up to you, really.

I mean if you are completely ambivilent to all other women, that don't fall within your "preference", then yes you are being discriminatory. But not in the sense that I think that you are using it.

As I said...I prefer redheads...but I married a brunette.

Xazy 08-15-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights (Post 2507650)
Absolutely not.

As I said...I prefer redheads...but I married a brunette.

Same but do no mention that to Doc (my wife), she knows but i do not talk about it in front of her. Hmm maybe a wig...

Baraka_Guru 08-15-2008 09:21 AM

It's a positive discrimination, rather than a negative one. If I like Indian women, it's not like I hate everyone else. I just prefer them. This has pretty much been said already.

For example, I'm not discriminatory against gays by being straight—I'm positively discriminatory by my preference for women.

There is a difference between preference and prejudice.

LoganSnake 08-15-2008 09:44 AM

I'm the same way. I like members of one race (well, more than one) and am not attracted to about 70% of members of another. I'm open about it.

levite 08-15-2008 09:48 AM

Yeah, I don't think having likes and dislikes about who you're attracted to counts as discrimination. Ethnicities have common physical characteristics, and what are we initially sexually attracted to, if not physical characteristics?

You like Indian women. Why wouldn't you? They're very luscious. But I'm sure it's not like if a smokin' hot redhead named Bridget started playing tug-of-war with your trouser weasel, you'd be like, "Hands off! You're Irish!"

"Preference" doesn't have to mean "Obssession."

Ayashe 08-15-2008 09:50 AM

How can you call a preference discriminating. It would be a shame to meet someone who you had everything in common with but not the right hair/eye color and not give it a thought. Though if you do not have the attraction, it simply is not there. Not much you can really do about it.

Leto 08-15-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 2507649)
I prefer women with long, dark hair. Am I discriminating against blondes?

Do what makes you happy. As long as you're not hurting anyone, there's no reason to worry about it.


well... yes if fact you are being dicriminating in your tastes. Is that bad? No. We all have preferences and choose accordingly.

What is not good is if you let your preconceived notions, your prejudices, influence your behaviour in a bigotted manner. To like a girl for her physical attributes is fine. To demean those that do not fit your preferences is bigotry and is not fine.

mixedmedia 08-15-2008 10:28 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with having such a preference, but I imagine if I were an Indian woman dating a white man and I found out that all or most of his former girlfriends were also Indian, it would give me pause. Not saying I would break-up with him, but it would make me wonder how much he was attracted to me and how much he was attracted to my ethnicity.

MSD 08-15-2008 10:56 AM

Human attraction is irrational. Asking why I'm attracted to redheads my age, but blonde MILFs is like asking why I usually listen to death metal while I'm at my desk but tend to play gangsta rap while I'm driving; I have no idea, it's just what I like. It's hardwired into us somewhere, and as we decipher the brain we might figure it out someday.

Jinn 08-15-2008 11:04 AM

I like short blond women but I'm dating a 5'9" brunette for the last 3.5 years.

I like "Alternative" and "Classic Rock" in mixed company, but when no one is looking I listen to Hannah Montana, Hillary Duff and DMX.

MSD is right, attraction is so fickle and fleeting it'd be dangerous to say anything was your preference forever..

jorgelito 08-15-2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights (Post 2507650)
Absolutely not.

It's the same as my own preference to redheads. It's what you find attractive.


That's up to you, really.

I mean if you are completely ambivilent to all other women, that don't fall within your "preference", then yes you are being discriminatory. But not in the sense that I think that you are using it.

As I said...I prefer redheads...but I married a brunette.

Somewhere, Allison Hannigan is devastated :p
-----Added 15/8/2008 at 03 : 39 : 11-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by mixedmedia (Post 2507688)
I don't think there's anything wrong with having such a preference, but I imagine if I were an Indian woman dating a white man and I found out that all or most of his former girlfriends were also Indian, it would give me pause. Not saying I would break-up with him, but it would make me wonder how much he was attracted to me and how much he was attracted to my ethnicity.

Good point. Nice post.

Cernunnos 08-15-2008 11:49 AM

I am unattracted to stupidity, ignorance, religiousness, obesity, and dry skin. At the former side of the spectrum, it seems perfectly appropriate to avoid relationships with stupid people, while at the latter end, it's somewhat ridiculous to write someone off over dry skin.

I have a preference for intelligence and smooth skin, but you can guess which matters more to me. Lacking one is a potential deal-breaker while the other isn't going to trouble me whatsoever. Is this discrimination? Only with regard to potential lovers.

Borla 08-15-2008 12:14 PM

My preference is usually for caucasian women with long dark hair and nice curves. However, I am pretty sure I can say I've come across (either in real life, or seen pictures) women of just about EVERY ethnic group, hair color, or body type (excluding grossly obese) that I thought were very, very attractive. Just because my "type" might be somewhat specific, there are other women far different from that that occasionally knock my socks off so to speak when I see them. I don't think it's discriminatory in the least. I'm not less attracted to asian women, or black women, or Indian women BECAUSE they are from that ethnic background. :shrug:

sound chaser 08-15-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixedmedia (Post 2507688)
I don't think there's anything wrong with having such a preference, but I imagine if I were an Indian woman dating a white man and I found out that all or most of his former girlfriends were also Indian, it would give me pause. Not saying I would break-up with him, but it would make me wonder how much he was attracted to me and how much he was attracted to my ethnicity.

OK. But if a man likes brunettes, and only really dates brunettes, then should his next girlfriend worry that he is only dating her because of her brown hair?

mixedmedia 08-15-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sound chaser (Post 2507876)
OK. But if a man likes brunettes, and only really dates brunettes, then should his next girlfriend worry that he is only dating her because of her brown hair?

1. I didn't say I would 'worry.' I said it would make me wonder.

2. In a way, yes. Ever seen Vertigo? :p

I am only speaking from my own personal point of view. I said quite explicitly that there was nothing wrong with having the preference, but I would not be thrilled at finding out after I had been dating someone for a while that I was chosen for matching certain pre-determined physical criteria.

Tully Mars 08-15-2008 07:54 PM

I agree with what many others have said. I think it's pretty much hardwired in, it either work for you or it doesn't. How it got there... who knows? Nature? Nurture? Really who cares? I think we all have physical types we find attractive. personally I think some of it's learned behavior. I've always had a thing for fair skinned redheads since my junior year in high school.... and I know exactly why. I have a friend, really more of a friend of a friend, who seems to really like large ladies. Really large. The other day over dinner he mentioned how much he liked the waitress. I think his exact words were "she's hot." I'm guessing she was well over 250lbs and not much over 5'. I thought maybe there was some cultural or crude joke thing happening. I asked my friend later if he was kidding or being mean, or??? "No, all his girlfriends have been really large." Not my cup of tea, but if it works for him more power to him. Someone for everyone.

With my personal preference I view my current residence as a sort cruel ironic joke.

toxic515 08-16-2008 09:28 AM

it's discretionary, not discriminatory.

jorgelito 08-16-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars (Post 2507920)
I agree with what many others have said. I think it's pretty much hardwired in, it either work for you or it doesn't. How it got there... who knows? Nature? Nurture? Really who cares? I think we all have physical types we find attractive. personally I think some of it's learned behavior. I've always had a thing for fair skinned redheads since my junior year in high school.... and I know exactly why. I have a friend, really more of a friend of a friend, who seems to really like large ladies. Really large. The other day over dinner he mentioned how much he liked the waitress. I think his exact words were "she's hot." I'm guessing she was well over 250lbs and not much over 5'. I thought maybe there was some cultural or crude joke thing happening. I asked my friend later if he was kidding or being mean, or??? "No, all his girlfriends have been really large." Not my cup of tea, but if it works for him more power to him. Someone for everyone.

With my personal preference I view my current residence as a sort cruel ironic joke.

Sure it's discriminatory. Whether it's negative or positive is another thing altogether.

It is also NOT hardwired. My tastes have changed drastically over the years. I used to like Asian girls, but they are too high maintenance and showed me no love. Then redheads was my thing but we always fight too much. On to the Latina girls, then blondes, brunettes etc. I even went through a fat girl phase. Now, I prefer the Asiany-Mediterranean, ethnically ambiguous look.

But regardless of how you look, at the end of the day, please be a cool chick and not a bitch.

Martian 08-16-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto (Post 2507679)
well... yes if fact you are being dicriminating in your tastes. Is that bad? No. We all have preferences and choose accordingly.

Well, sure it's a discrimination in the strictest sense of the word, but like Baraka_Guru pointed out it's a positive discrimination rather than a negative one. And that's really the key.

Tully Mars 08-16-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2508156)
Sure it's discriminatory. Whether it's negative or positive is another thing altogether.

It is also NOT hardwired. My tastes have changed drastically over the years. I used to like Asian girls, but they are too high maintenance and showed me no love. Then redheads was my thing but we always fight too much. On to the Latina girls, then blondes, brunettes etc. I even went through a fat girl phase. Now, I prefer the Asiany-Mediterranean, ethnically ambiguous look.

But regardless of how you look, at the end of the day, please be a cool chick and not a bitch.

Interesting. You've certainly been through more "phases' then I have. But I still say to some degree it is hardwired. More then willing to agree to to disagree on that, or maybe just adjust the definition of "hardwire" a little. I've certainly been with ladies I didn't initially find all that attractive. Once I got to know them I found them interesting, funny etc... Then I found them attractive.

I definitely agree with:

But regardless of how you look, at the end of the day, please be a cool chick and not a bitch.


I've meet women that took my breath away until I listened to them or watched them for a while. Complete bitch simply isn't attractive, IMHO. Though I must admit I've known guys who have had one complete bitch for a girlfriend after another. Must work for them?

Again, someone for everyone.

neflyte 08-16-2008 05:09 PM

After much personal thought on this sort of thing, I've concluded that I simply like what I like. If i experience someone (see, feel, communicate with, etc) that "does it" for me, so be it. Like Bill O'Rights, I /prefer/ certain physical characteristics (whether or not I personally have them), but they're not all deal breakers. Whoever I end up with might not have any of my preferences at all!

IMO, a "preference" isn't "discriminatory". Whatever does it for you is what does it for you.

little_tippler 08-17-2008 03:01 AM

I don't see a preference as discriminatory.

But, if your preference overrides the actual quality of the person you are with, then maybe you should consider that your judgment is a little impaired by the importance of superficial attraction. For example, if you love busty redheads but all of the ones you have dated have popcorn for brains, you may be selling yourself short for not admitting that sometimes what you want, is not what will be good for you. That being said, I'm sure there's plenty of very intelligent busty redheads out there...so maybe it's more a case of persevering on the quest for the right intellectual match to you, but not disregarding women who are not busty redheads entirely.

What follows here is: "just because she looks how I like, doesn't make her perfect. And conversely, just because she doesn't look quite how I like, doesn't make her less perfect either."

Tophat665 08-17-2008 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sound chaser (Post 2507644)
I really like indian women (from india in asia, not native american) and would love to date one.

But is it wrong to have an ethnic preference as to whom one wants to date? Is it being too discriminatory? Is it any different from saying that one only likes to date blondes or women with long hair?

You say discrimination like it's a bad thing. It's not. Not always or even most of the time. There is no arguing taste, and you must discriminate between those things (in this case opportunities for dating) that meet your taste and those that do not and the grey area in the middle.

If you find that a particular race or ethnicity catches and holds your eye, then enjoy the search. Do keep an open mind, however. I, generically, far and away prefer brunettes to blondes, but I married a blonde because she was the right person at the right time and 14 years later it seems I was right.

curiousbear 08-17-2008 10:03 PM

It is definitely NOT discrimination. Discriminitaion is all about hatred and dislike. It is not about what you like or love.

I would have loved plain sex with a kind caucasian girl with red lips (!), a hot playful european girl. If I had been a girl must have loved to sleep with african. I also would love to be with a girl who is bisexual. There is no rational ground for all this liking. And I can never try it all because I am already committed in a relationship.

Be happy and enjoy your liking and attractions. I like Indian girls too al lot.

paparora 08-22-2008 02:01 PM

I LOVEE good looking women no matter what race.

But I wont lie, if I had to decide between an Indian woman and any other...id pick the Indian one. Yo op, u wanna share some pics of this girl you're interested in? There are like 0 good looking Indian girls at UMD.


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