Graphic question about definition of "all the way."
 

I've hooked up with this girl twice in the last two months. Both times I thought she would have condoms, but she didn't.

Anyway, I put only the tip in, until climax, since she said she wasn't on the pill and didn't want to get pregnant (with me).

Does this count as sex, or just foolin' around?

I'm asking because I'm one who keeps count. I take it very seriously, rare as it is.

Dude. That is not safe sex. If you don't have condoms, don't put any part of your penis in, including the tip.

Not only does it count as sex, it counts as intercourse and she could get pregnant just as easily either way.

Seconded. Also, I'm confused. Were you under the impression that there's a form of vaginal penetration that isn't sex? That's pretty much the definition.

Pulling out is to contraceptives as waving your arms really fast is to parachutes.

Second that, if you think flapping your arms really fast will make you fly then by all means keep on with what your doing. Also not sure what world your in but it's entirely possible for a guy to bring the condoms especially if he wants to get some. But then again maybe you do think flapping ones arms is a cheaper alternative to a parachute for skydiving.

Not to mention the STDs you could contract by having bare contact with vaginal secretions.

I'd wonder why after the first time she didn't have condoms, you didn't make sure you took some the second time...

if you took it as seriously as you state, then YOU would carry condoms around.

If you thought it was hard to get rid of the leech of a girl that had your phone and car... wait until you have no choice but to pay child support.

Seriously! Since when is it the girl's job to make sure YOU'RE protected?

Yes, this counts.

Here's a handy reference picture, with the vertical line being an invisible plane accross the vaginal entrance:
:thumbsup:

Heh.

QFT. There's a lot more I could say here, but I'm restraining myself.

Please do. Seriously, he needs to read it.

But would he pay anymore attention than he did with the whack job he bought a car for?

If you're not married and having sex you need to wear a condom, you should always have one within reach....end of story

I'm not married, and I don't always use condoms.

How politically incorrect of me.

Well if it was only the very tip of the penis and it wasn't in very far for very long... Then yeah it was sex.

Dude, this goes far beyond what you, my or Bill Clinton's definition of sex is. Be prepared yourself next time or keep it in your pants.


Q: What do you call a guy who uses withdrawal as birth control.

A: Daddy

JTK - you're not kpax. 'nough said.

Well did she go and douche right away afterwards? Then she can't get pregnant! Or maybe do it in water next time. :rolleyes: Seriously dude come on in today's day of education are you really that blind to reality? Getting her pregnant isn't the worse that could happen, you could catch something that you can't take a pill to get rid of!

You are about to find out the hard way that love hurts and sometimes it ITCHES AND BURNS!!

Be responsible for yourself and your future always carry condoms!

and if you enjoy playing russian roulette that way...more power to you

but those of us that followed Kpax's last g/f experience can only wonder where his brain REALLY is

Wrapped in a condom, so nothing gets out... or in.

Oh, don't kid yourself. Today's "abstinence-only education" has created a generation of kids who fuck like bunnies, wrap it in saran, and douche with coca-cola afterward.

Though I don't think that's Kpax's problem. I think he knows better but has got (shall we say) desperation issues.

I haven't followed him long enough to truly understand but I will say that if he is smart enough to figure out the internet and how to post on a forum he's smart enough to educate himself. And unless he went to private school he received REAL sex-ed.

He's got I-post-my-problems-on-the-internet-as-if-I'm-asking-for-advice-but-then-I-completely-ignore-everything-anyone-says-to-me issues.

do a search.....posts and journals, then you'll understand what the rest of us mean

again Kpax....be an adult, take the responsibility of having a condom and USE it

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! Even though the sound of it is something quite atrosicous! If you say it loud enough, you'll always sound precocious,

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
Um-diddle-diddle-um-diddleye
Um-diddle-diddle-um-diddleye

oh.. sorry... wrong song.

:rolleyes:

Gotta throw in some political snark unbacked up by facts don't ya.

Nicely done :thumbsup:

I know you're plenty sex-positive. You think abstinence-only education is a GOOD idea?

Somehow I find this a very weird remark.


And if you take it seriously, don't have sex with somebody who you aren't willing to raise a kid with.


And on another note, it should be the responsibility of you BOTH to make sure you're protected.

However, I think I'll try that Coca cola douche next time :orly:

try

http://shauna.opishposh.com/images/yoohoo.jpg

Mmmm, chocolate cooze :p

Is that what they mean when they're putting it in her yoohoo?

I know i'm not helping to drive the point home (pardon my pun)
but I never had protected sex and none of my exes got pregnant, no STD contraction either... thats an 8 year track record so..

I'm at the point that i'd want to wear one now though, "city" perspectives are a lot different on sex than "small town" perspectives.

it's much more casual in the city environment from what I'm seeing. (not that I"m participating... yet)

it counts as sex kpax.

god, why did we have to call me kpax 2.0? I'm not even.....

Please...or the benefit of humanity as a species, for the collective I.Q quotient of America, and for the protection of everyone in your Verizon circle.

Wear A condom! Hell, Just put one on and leave it there everyday, Tie it off with thread at the base if you need to.

Better yet...Get Sterlized.

Good to see you back around here :D

I don't know that abstinence-only is an accurate way to describe it. One of our son's teachers (sex ed is covered in physical education here) called his abstinence-based. There was discussion of contraceptives, STDs and such, but he also instructed that the only sure way to avoid pregnancy and STDs was abstinence. Talking with him at parent teacher conferences I didn't come away with the feeling that he was teaching that sex makes baby Jesus cry. Of course I don't think he was teaching anything "sex positive".

Anything most people on this forum consider to be sex positive being discussed in sex ed would likely lead to angry parents showing up at school board meetings. A curriculum that discusses homosexuality, multiple partners, premarital sex, fetishes or anything beyond sex for a lawfully wedded man and woman can't happen easily in our society until college it seems. Of course this does no good for the freshman and sophomore high school students (or younger) who are sexually active.

In the words of Donald "Duck" Dunn, "if the shit fits, wear it."

Think of yourself as a kpax that does actually listen 1% of the time if that makes you feel better.

Dude, to give you some perspective of what I consider to be responsible intercourse (anything involving the penis and vagina, regardless of the "tip" or the whole deal), we used condoms AND birth control for the first 3.5 years of our exclusive relationship, including a year of marriage. This was not due to fear of disease (we have always been monogamous/tested), but simply because we did not want to get pregnant, not even accidentally. And that was in a MARRIED, monogamous relationship! Granted, we're slightly more paranoid/cautious than the average couple, but the payoff was 100% peace of mind, all the time... nothing can replace that, not even the best orgasm.

For chrissakes', man... not that anything we say here is going to get into your skull, as usual, but PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR OWN HEALTH AND WELFARE!

I'd have to say you were very lucky. Not a recommended way to not get pregnant. :)

While pulling out is very risky, I've gone 2 years with it and not gotten pregnant. I will admit there's been some pregnancy scares however.

And yes, you're situation means you DID have intercourse with the ladies.

Y'all like to play Russian roulette, don'tcha. :eek:

I just don't see the appeal. You stand to lose pretty much everything (at least, life as you know it) if something goes wrong. Maybe there is some kind of turn-on to that kind of risk-taking behavior, but I just don't get it. I love risks, but not ones that truly endanger my life, or even my quality of life. Can you help me understand the mentality that goes into thinking "it won't happen to me?" I made that mistake once, and that was enough.

For me (and my husband), nothing is worth more than peace of mind, and the knowledge that we are disease- and accidental-pregnancy free is such a wonderful thing. I can't say it any more strongly than that. Call me judgmental, that's fine... I reserve the right to be judgmental about unprotected sex.

same.

i even thought of getting a vasectomy because we don't want to have kids.

Lets remember one thing boys and girls. Your dick, your problem. If you want to have sex and you're the guy, you damn sure better bring the condoms. Its not her piece of equipment to deal with.

Its like playing football. Do you go to a football game expecting the Defensive tackle to bring your helmet and pads for you? No, so you shouldn't go to the sex game expecting the girl to bring the condoms for you.

Be smart man. If she isn't on the pill and you stuck it in, its sex.

he never said he didn´t want her to get pregnant or an std. sheesh, cut him some slack. he even keeps a count (i´m assuming of children or stds.)

I just lost my virginity last summer. I was 25. I've actually been the one asking HER when I could do it without a condom, "to see what it's like."

Being raised in a strict religious upbringing kinda makes my view of sex a bit distorted and overly fascinated. We were raised to be prudes, but I think that just makes a person even more fascinated with sex, to the point where safety is the last thing on their mind. I will change my thinking, though. I don't really look into the future with certainty of achievement, but there is no way I would like this girl that I've been getting with to be the last person in life that I get involved with physically.

I asked if this type of activity counted because I thought that putting only the tip in was called "rimjob." I lost my virginity at 25! I waited a 1/4 of a century! You can see why I keep count.

Uhh, no. I've suddenly got this mental image of you asking for a rimjob and being very surprised at the ensuing act.

Google is your friend.

And take a picture of your face when you click on google images.

I read all the way through this thread... and actually laughed out loud when I got to the end. So it seems that our Kpax is the product of religious, (possibly) abstinence only sex-ed. Who'd have thought!

What other mis-named sexual exploits can we introduce him to? Rusty Trombone is when you have sex in a old pickup truck with a decaying bed? Cleveland Steamer = Sex in Ohio on a warm summer night? Dirty Sanchez = Sex with a Latina before her shower?

I'm sure we could come up with more...

wait... and you didn't share it after all that angst? you went from never kissed a girl to lost virgnity... to is sticking it in sex?

are you sure you lost your viriginity?

Um, no. That's no reason to keep count the way you are trying to do.

Sorry to tell you that you weren't the only 25 year old virgin in the world, so you're really not that special. Get over yourself.

some people simply do not have the social ability to bed a woman by the time they are 25. Being confident in who you are is the 1st step, finding someone who likes who you are is the 2nd step.

well if you have $20 in some towns, you can pass go and go right past steps 1 and 2 and go right to sticking it in.

I've seen a man do that and live. NOT RECOMMENDED.

If you would like me to mail you condoms, I can do it. I've got free time.

No. Not even close.


As a guy that enjoys an occasional rimjob... Let me explain it to you.



So... While the girl is going down on you, she'll move a little further south, maybe lick your balls for a bit, then she'll move even further south, and the next thing you know she's licking your asshole. And you've come all over your own stomach.


Have fun with that.

kpax thread from the future: "so I was getting a rimjob, and the girl stuck her finger in my butt. It was just a little bit, not all the way in. So the question is, am I gay now, or just bi, since she didn't stick it in all the way?"

+1

Hahahah, I'd owe you a beer for that laugh.

this really made me laugh

If you want "to see what it's like", go work in an orphanage or something where you can find out what it's like to take care of kids.

Thank you, abaya... I can't believe the excuses you keep making for yourself. Ignorance is forgivable to some extent, all of us are ignorant to some extent about things. But for goodness sake, take some responsibility. Waiting 25 years doesn't automatically make you stupid.

I am more than happy to say that I'm still a virgin - by choice - and I am 27. I made that decision consciously (for romantic, non-religious reasons) after learning what I could about sex and the different views on it, and although at times it's hard to stick by that decision when opportunity presents itself, I don't use it as an excuse for myself. Grow up.

OMG I haven't laughed so hard in a long time, thanks twisted.

Kpax, she probably won't have condoms next time, either. Bring them.

BTW Crompsin, when I was reading this thread my toddler climbed into my lap. She pointed to your avatar, and yelled "it's a cupcake!" Thought you'd like to know :D

Edit: Looks like you changed your avatar while I was typing. It was your "misfits" one.

+1 from me, too.

Dude seriously.

This isn't 1950 where porno came in brown paper bags and was illegal to ship via the post office.

Do the basic research just about every other kid does at 15. It was harder for me without the net, but I managed to figure it out and know the basic ins and outs (drum roll). These days you get it all delivered at home for free with variations and midgets when needed.

whoa, this thread just got seksy :suave:

That doesn't clarify very much, since the new one is also a Misfits avatar.

Nerd.

This thread has made me laugh so hard--my roommate thinks I'm crazy.

I was also laughing my butt off while reading this thread. Especially when you called Martian a Nerd. That was priceless. :lol:

Cupcake's avatar...er, I mean, um...Crompsin's avatar that she was so enthralled with had the word "misfits" on it. It took me a second or two to figure out why she thought it was a cupcake. It does have the basic shape of a cupcake, with a cherry on top.

Martian, aren't you a bit young to have seen the Misfits show? I haven't even seen reruns on that series in probably 20 years. I'm still surprised Crompsin has the shirt.

Show? The Misfits are a band.

And snowy calls me a nerd because she knows I'll let her get away with it. C'est la vie.

And Crompsin doesn't have the shirt. He has a tattoo.

A tattoo made of awesome.

You're not talking about Jem and the Holograms are you? :confused: Crompsin's tattoo (not shirt) and avatar are referencing the hardcore punk band, not the 'evil' band in the girl-GIJoe cartoon.

Best. Thread. Ever.

Well, Hell, dress me in purple and call me slow. I thought it was from this tv show and this sweatshirt.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...fp/misfits.jpg

Hey, Cupcake...where is a copy of your misfits avatar so we can compare??

EDIT - Strange.

URL, then:

It says "this video no longer exists"

EDIT: Okay, that video is there. Looks scary. Need to view it during daylight hours.

Hey kpax...forgive us...we are all just a tad...

ECSTATIC....about Crompsin's good news....dog pile on Crompsie!

uhhh...to the OP...

You had sex.......

With all the good advice given here in previous posts..there isn't much
I can add...

[QUOTE=ring]...

ECSTATIC....about Crompsin's good news....dog pile on Crompsie!
QUOTE]

...good news that a two year old thinks he looks like a cupcake? LoL Resume dogpile! (eh...I'm gonna catch Hell for this when he mosies back to this thread)

Oh, yea, not to forget the OP... I think I did mention, 'take condoments' next time.

All that needs to be said.

Your mindset about this issue is seriously warped - and, yes, a lot of that comes from your upbringing, but now you know that and so it's time to start fixing it. If that means you need to start seeing a therapist about your low self-esteem, warped perspective on sexual and relationship issues, and the damage caused by your strict religious upbringing, then so be it. I'd strongly recommend it (not that this hasn't been said to you here before, many times, by many different people).

Actually, I was in a relationship for 5 years and would use withdrawl as birth control. It takes skill, but it does work, though your natural inclination is to take those last 2 strokes.

I have a friend whose been married 20 years and has always used withdrawl. He has 2 kids, both of them planned.

Not saying it's right for everyone, you need discipline, but it can work.

which town is this? I need some birthday goodies.

(may 18th! cmon! lol)

TJ, but you'll probably get more birthday 'goodies' than you really want...espcially if you hit it kpax style.

I AM a cupcake. Hahaha... the kid said so. I generally believe children.

Yeah, I've been referred to as the cookie monster and a cupcake since I've been here. That's totally sweet... and by sweet I mean good for my self-esteem to be referred to as a deranged blue muppet or a small pastry.

I may or may not have a scar and/or birthmark that is fashioned in a particular familiar band-from-'77 shape.

Mmmm, I'd hit that like an enraged male women's-equality activist.

KPAX-style? Is that a new sex position? What would it consist of?

1/4" of insertion, while doubting yourself.

I think I I think I can see a KPAX-shaped hole in the door where he ran through to get as far away as possible from this thread.

Yeah, I didn't wanna be the one to say it.

I was sooooo confused when someone left me "Cupcake!!!" as a comment/link here on my art thread....

But now i get it! :lol:

I’ve only been with this one girl. I just lost my virginity at 25, and was always conscious about being a virgin at such a “late” (late to pop culture) age.

That’s why I take it so seriously.

I am trying to break free, though, even if this is the only girl I know. She won’t tell you the truth, even when she has no reason to lie. She is plain untrustworthy, but lust always makes me forget that.

I wondered about it because between the two of us, she was always the one insisting on my using a condom. So, these past two times when she didn't have any, I assumed that she felt that the "ensuing act" wasn't sex, which made me think one thing that has happened before: another man in her life.

Like I said, she never tells you anything. Given the responses here I've been alerted to a very sobering thought, and I will now be the one that insists on the condom. Better yet, maybe mind will prevail over heart and I can break free.

I think you need to stay away from girls.



At least till you figure a few things out.

She was right.

With all due respect, you need another brain in your head. Where do you get this stuff?! Maybe she was just sick of you pestering her to have condomless sex, and decided that a baby's whining couldn't possibly be any annoying or unreasonable than yours.

Is this real? I can't type anything in response to this.

There was a popular theory for a while that Kpax is actually someone's idea of performance art. I don't know if anyone still believes it.

Actually, I'm still a believer. Or a skeptic. Depending on how you look at it. :)

I see we've abandoned all attempts to respond to this in a reasonable manner.

I'll try to add something reasonable to help KPax....

Dude, some things in life are NOT worth it. I mean it's simple math really...

Some chick you don't really like

+

Unprotected sex

=

Soooooooooo not worth it.


Go out, get an education/job/psychiatrist/money in the bank, and just forget about girls for a while. The problem with beating your head against the wall is that the wall REALLY doesn't care.......

And thus we come full circle, as I believe I was one of the people who originated that theory in chat many moons ago, after the infamous Ring story.

I don't mean to be a cad or any of that or necessarily belittle this K-pax persona - but I have trouble relating to this. If I don't think of my post as constituting a post....is it a post?

especially if a kid pops out and you have to be tied to her for 18+ years minimum... you may as well commit a crime since jail time is finite and has a definite end date.

It's just hard to believe that someone could be this naive.

KPAX, don't feel bad. I'm in my...um...30's again, and I had to ask one of the TFP guys what a MILF is. I told him that Google searches just pointed to porn sites, but nothing actually said what one was. He probably laughed his ass off before answering me.

You need better google skills ;)

Try 'origin of the word milf' and its the first hit.

Likewise 'What is a rim job' gives the definition as the first hit.

Be specific :thumbsup:

Or just go to Urban Dictionary. It's sometimes hit and miss, but at least it's a porn site workaround. :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=Ustwo]You need better google skills ;)
QUOTE]

Yea, looks like I do :D But I swear it wasn't that easy when I tried it a year ago. I could find examples but not the definition. And I didn't think to use an online dictionary. Silly me. Thanks, guys.

Everyone read this. There will be a test.

http://www.thesexdictionary.com/