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Women and Anal Sex
Stumbled across this in some guys signature on another forum
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I had to laugh cuz there is a little bit of truth to that. My guess would be maybe it has more to do with feeling degraded or taking more trust to let your partner do that with you. To stretch the piercinsg analogy, I wouldn't let just anyone pierce me. Hrm, hrm... stuff to think about I spose. |
Hmph, I haven't done ANY of those things that the guy said that "women do" in his signature... but I do love me some anal sex, lemme tell ya! :crazy: And it DOESN'T hurt, if it's done right.
But then again, ktspktsp and I have a pretty rockin' relationship, and I think that has a lot to do with my/our attitude towards anal. I would have never let any of my previous boyfriends anywhere near my ass (or any other orifice, come to think of it), honestly. |
Uhm... you've been hanging out with the wrong kind of women, bro.
I'd rather have a lady who enjoys the former and avoids tacky body mods and surgical aspects of the latter. It suggests someone who's less superficial and more in touch with their body. |
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I haven't noticed a preponderance of babes around here who refuse to indulge in anal sex.
Sometimes you gotta learn to play to your audience. :) |
In my experience it's about 50 50 as to whether or not a woman will surrender the marble peach.
I've met women who LOVE anal, I've met women who won't even consider it. The worst are the ones who tell you that they are into it but when push comes to shove (pun intended) they shut the door. As far as the humiliation angle (anal, facials, GS, CIM, BDSM, etc) sex is sometimes served best when it's degrading and humiliating (and yes that applies to men as well). The trick is to realize that it's all just fun and games and then go for it. |
Women put up with the pain in those other things (tattoing, waxing etc) because it is an uncomfortable means to an end that they deem worth the suffering. I'd guess that most women of the women you refer to simply don't believe they'd get anything worthwhile out of anal sex.
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I can't wait to impart such knowledge when I am of significant learnedness. |
You just have to find the right woman. Then anything is open to being tried.
"Honey, close your arm... I'm going for the armpit" -_- ...*shrug* "ok" |
Nah. It's all about the man. If he knows what it takes to get her going, she'll not only trust him, but natural lube will do the job, pain-free, and she'll be open to just about anything.
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But I also know that sometimes, anatomically, it doesn't always work. Usually this is where ShaniFaye would come in and tell us that while she's open to pretty much everything, anal just doesn't feel good for her, and she's tried it. In those cases, it's not the people involved, it's just their particular anatomy, I think. But I think that is fairly rare... usually it's a psychological or emotional problem between the two people involved. |
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"If he knows what it takes to get her going, she'll not only trust him ..." I meant to infer that it takes trust (both ways) to achieve the kind of intimacy to know what it takes. We all have the same "parts" but we all respond and operate just a little bit differently :D Boiled down: I totally agree with you. :) |
why is it such a big deal if it hurts some of us? The pain of all the stuff mentioned in the OP is NOTHING compared to the pain of anal sex for me, and lord knows I've tried it many times with many people and followed all the "steps" for doing it right....it hurts me...end of story
just like there are some guys that enjoy anal stuff and some that dont why the hell should I waste my pleasure time with something that is painful to the point of making me cry? Quote:
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ShaniFaye... that was perfect timing, lol. :)
Let me also add (as I have added to many other threads about "Why don't women do anal?") that, at least for me, I became a LOT more open and willing to try anal, once the man in question was willing to receive anal as well. Gotta be able to take your own medicine, you know? ;) Not to mention it builds up an unspeakable amount of trust and intimacy when both people are vulnerable to trying something new, instead of one person urging the other person to do something. |
lol well we all know Dave loves being "done", that doesn't seem to affect my pain level though hehehe
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not as good as the back of the knee
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...and if you are naturally lubing in your asshole, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. :) |
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Yeah and to think, I just wanted to share a signature that made me giggle at work. pssh.
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Hey, it made me giggle, too.
And you know how silly my giggles are... Tee-hee-hee. |
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Silly me. I didn't think of rape.
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Anal sex doesn't "help" us with our insecurities. I put help in quotations because obviously, body modifications don't always assist to women's self-esteems.
And, obviously, anal sex doesn't always hurt. I don't think anal sex has to be degrading. I'm not quite sure if that's the right analysis. I love piercings and tattoos, if I had the money I'd have some plastic surgery done, and I still like to be degraded in bed. It's mostly because of my insecurities. |
Also possible that women are worried about damage to their ass that may give them problems further down the road?
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Anal sex, done properly, doesn't hurt... but is so intense that you feel like it should. :crazy:
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... Of course, all things in moderation. |
Anyone else wanna tie up Shauk and shove something in his ass?
You know... so he can answer is own question... |
It has a LOT to do with feeling degraded. If you have the slightest inclination to anal sex then that results in a very tight butt hole and then that makes a lot of pain. If you didn't find it degrading then you'll have a loose hole and enjoyment out of it.
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It doesn't make me feel degraded, but it does make me feel dominated - and I like that.
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Anyways, I don't see what the big deal is, never have. There is one hole that its designed for, one its most definitely not. I've always seen it as a dominance thing, and I don't feel the need to dominate women. |
Some people just don't like it. Deal with it.
If it's that much of a fetish to a man then he should seek out partners who are into it. I wouldn't dare to date a girl who doesn't like being tied up and blindfolded and force my expectations on her. Such things are discussed before moving forward in the relationship and if major incompatibilities occur it's best to seek other partners. |
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I can't be the only female that at one time thought oral sex was nasty and would never have considered anal sex. Women all have different histories and the right partnership can form a wonderfully intimate relationship that opens her mind to things she thought she'd never consider, much less enjoy. ;) |
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Newbie with my two cents here....
I find that women are much more relaxed and amenable to trying new things if you go down on them for quite a while first. Five or six orgasms, and most of the girls I've been with cheerfully flipped right over and handed me the lube.... Might also help that, unlike some others, I'm not hung like elephant waving a fire hose.... But perhaps I've said too much.... A. |
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Maybe so, but I can attest to a time before I tried anal sex when my partner rammed me unintentionally while engaging in some pretty enthusiastic fucking and it did hurt...like seeing stars kind of pain. gg, I wouldn't let that experience turn you off of anal sex forever. It's one thing if you're just not interested in it. But there is a huge difference in sensation between an unprepared battering ram accident and properly performed anal play/sex. And I have never felt degraded by anal sex - dominated, yes - but not degraded. |
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It seems like "Female Alternate Love Canal #3" is popular for novelty. Perhaps the domination comes from the tone, not the meat-in-nature's-universal-pocket activity itself. While it doesn't really involve me, since I've got a smooth spot like Yule Brenner's head, I always like to know why people feel they way they do about subjective things. For my next topic... I'll be starting another literary bukkake thread in Politics about abortion. |
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I don't even care for anal sex.
the irony of me being the author of this thread. yay. but yeah I mean I'll do it but it's the least pleasing option of the holes :p |
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Another Newbie with 2 cents
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As for my own opinion of the topic: I love anal sex performed on me. A major plus is that my husband fessed up that he wanted to experience some anal play while we were dating. We got a nice pliable vibrator especially made for the ass and took it slow. |
I once had a girlfriend that wanted anal, I was the one who didn't want to do anal. I find the idea of putting my schlong into an anus somewhat gross, I can tolerate it in a porno, but in real life, no. It would take a very persuasive woman to get me to do anal.
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My next 3-4 girlfriends, I introduced them all to it. Some liked it, some loved it. Now, my current wife, she could not suck a cock to save her life. It is like she is licking a vinegar lollipop. She has swallowed once, 7 years ago and puked thereafter. but, she loves it in the ass. She was essentially a virgin at 28, she slept with one guy3 times. I introduced her to anal and we were off. The harder it is, the more she likes it. She has also found her love for pain and choking. SHe is MASSIVELY multiorgasmic when I do her in the ass. |
It's a bloody shame that so many women are so opposed to anal sex....
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From the responses to this thread, I don't see that many women opposed to anal sex... I would say that on TFP, there are probably more men who dislike the idea of being anally penetrated by a woman with a strap-on, than there are women who dislike anal sex. |
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From the responses to this thread, I don't see that many women opposed to anal sex... I would say that on EARTH, there are probably more men who dislike the idea of being anally penetrated by a woman with a strap-on, than there are women who dislike anal sex. FIFY ;) |
My girl prefers anal to vaginal sex. After some foreplay and oral fun we start out with vaginal sex but as soon as she gets really hot she wants it in the ass. She tells me that women have more nerve endings around the anus than the vagina. With anal sex she has more powerful orgasms and sometimes she has two or three in a row. When we come together that way it is really blissful. She doesn't really like my come in her ass so when possible I pull out and come on her belly and pube instead.
I really love to satisfy her that way but sometimes there is a problem for me with it. Once she is done with her orgasm(s) her anus clamps shut and any further penetrations start to cause her pain. So if I haven't had my orgasm yet I am left to jerk myself off (usually with some help) but for me that is not a completely satisfying end to our lovemaking. I would prefer to come in her vagina and then stay inside as we share a loving embrace. But I won't reenter her vagina after anal sex. Any advice? |
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Bees - you ever try wearing a jimmy when in the land of anus, and then slipping it off when you want to go back to the va-jay jay? Otherwise, my friend, you're stuck with rubbing it out on her tummy.
edit: and for completion, i still do not understand why some women, with abaya as their unofficial tfp representative, want a man to take it in the shitter if they're going to. I have a penis. It is made for peeing, and repetitively sticking into orifices. A woman presumably has a vagina. It is for peeing, and being stuck. She also has an asshole, and I suppose some women, and some men, like to move the repetitive sticking of the penis to a redirected sticking in the asshole. I suppose if there's hole for a rodgering, some people will want to rodger it. I suppose if she wanted to rub her clit on my ass, I'd be ok with that. But I don't really want a simulated penis in my ass, or anywhere else on or in my body. I don't want to suck a strapon before I receive head, for that matter. I don't make my girl lick out a bag of jello before I go down on her. I'm more of an "Insert Tab A into Slot B" kind of guy, and sure, if you'd prefer Slot C, I guess I can help you out. In no case will Tab D go into my Slot E. Not happening. Each to their own, experiences may vary, etc. |
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Also, in terms of Order of Orgasms, would she let you get her off anally first, then remove your dick and use it vaginally (assuming you were wearing a condom for the first part)? For me, after I've had an orgasm, I could be fucked in all of my holes and I probably wouldn't notice... I'm just a quivering lump of flesh at that point, and I always invite my husband to do whatever he wants to me, then. :D |
Thanks to pig and anaya for the advice of using a condom for anal sex and then removing it for vaginal. I guess we are used to the feeling of going condom free but it's definitely worth a try when I'm needing that sense of completion.
Hey pig, You might be missing out on something marvelous. For me the best kind of BJ is when it's combined with my girl's finger up may ass. There is something about that kind of stimulation during a blow job that makes me cum double the norm. |
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The prostate is a male's gspot... the joke on us is the location.
That said, I find a strap on less fun than a bunch of fingers... |
bees: i hear you...and charlatan has already advised me and others on the board about the miracles of prostate massage. i'm not saying i'd never go for it; the few times i had a chick give it a whirl, so to speak, were not comely experiences, but i've been told it's probably improper technique. what can i say? i'm a happy man with a good old fashioned blowjob. but that wasn't really my point - this is more of a longstanding disagreement on the notion of taking it in the ass in order to give it in the ass. i can honestly say i'm not overly interested in anal play period...if my girlfriend wanted anal sex, then i'd probably oblige. however, i don't think i'd volunteer my ass beforehand. i'll also never know what it feels like to experience vaginal penetration from the perspective of penetratee, but i don't think that rules out my ability to penetrate. other things i'll never be able to fully grasp are menstration, pregnancy, menopause, etc...but i'm not going to cut my taint open, bleed on a tampon, carry a bowling ball around in a little papoose, or stuff my clothing with heating pads.
basically, i support whatever you and yours do, as long as everyone is happy and consensual etc. this is more of an academic disagreement, rather than a condemnation of your practices...or those of any other tfper. |
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My beef with the issue happens when when a man wants to do anal to a woman (and the woman is resistant to doing it--key point), but is completely NOT open to even the idea of seeing how it feels for him to receive it, often to the point of some kind of homophobia (e.g. fear of himself turning gay if he even considers the idea rationally). There is no consideration of whether such reciprocation might contribute to building mutual understanding and vulnerability into the relationship, or helping the woman to trust him more with giving him back-door access, etc. It's just the straight-up , "I want your ass, but NO WAY IN HELL are you going near mine! Exit only!!! etc etc." that bothers me so much. It stands in stark contrast with a more gentle approach, which would be, "I'd like to try anal with you," (and if girl resists the idea) "Okay, would it make you feel better about doing it, if I let you try it on me first?" I don't see any problem with that statement, nor does it make the man "gay" or anywhere near it. Makes the man damn compassionate and attractive, if you ask me. :thumbsup: |
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I've tried it since then, but like Shani said, it just hurts. Waxing/plucking isn't really a good pain comparison to anal, especially for me. The pain of waxing/plucking is sudden and over quickly, and it fades fast. Anal...not so much. It hurts the entire time, and it hurts afterwards. I'll pass. |
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I personally will never have a woman do anything anal to me. Its not something I want to do (and I'm not that fond of doing it to a woman for that matter), but the 'gay fear' thing doesn't apply. Being gay is about sex with another man, not a woman doing something to you. Its just something that holds zero appeal to many men. I think the homophobia angle is something of a red herring. A lot of men just don't have the desire. Quote:
You like Allen Aldaesk types, she likes John Waynesk types, as long as we are having sex with the right types, its all that matters. |
To each is own, I love it, and will always have it. I am sure there are not many conservatives on here loving it though.
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I guess I don't subscribe to the notion of sexual reciprocity. There's really no problem, per say...I don't think. You and I have different perspectives on this issue, so we discuss them, etc - I suppose the same reason any of us discuss anything on these crazy green boards. I understand that in your relationship, when it came time for the anal sex discussion, having ktspktsp experience what you were going to undertake/intake helped you to feel comfortable. Not that my opinion matters on that particular issue, but I see no problems with that. It's more of the statement that in general, that's the way it should be. More men should feel comfortable with that, and if they aren't comfortable with that, then they should give up on the whole anal sex thing. I just don't think it's that simple; people are different, and what one person is comfortable with, another will not be. As always, it comes back to good communication within the relationship, but I don't think that means that a guy shouldn't be able to express his desire to have anal sex with his girlfriend, unless he's willing to have her give him anal sex - as a blanket statement. If that's your personal position to help engender trust or acceptance, then I think that's a different issue. Maybe it's a technique that would work for more men who might want to have anal sex with a hesitant chick, but I don't think it's a maxim for all occasions, or that it will work for everyone. |
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I have to agree and sadly if the BF asked me to 'do him' I would be completely turned off. That is just not sexy to me but I see why the ladies feel the connection. |
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First, the applicability of what I'm saying would require several things in a situation: your BF to *want* to have anal sex in the first place; then it would require you NOT wanting to have anal sex (I have no problem with women who want to have it, and don't think the guy needs to reciprocate, btw!--that's a totally different situation). If that is the situation, then we move on to the next step. If your relationship has nothing to do with anal, or both people are into it at the same time, then it doesn't apply here. Next, you would have to be the type of person who might be persuaded into trying it, but only if someone else goes first... a not uncommon way of exploring things sexually, at least as far as I know. Seeing as there are usually only two people in most relationships, and both people have the same body part/orifice in question, well... there isn't a lot of room on who that "someone else" might be. So if he decides, "Well, okay... how about if I try it first, then we'll see how you feel about it?"... then comes the next step: Either you decide that the whole idea turns you off (no matter what he offers), or you decide that that was a nice gesture on his part, and that it therefore makes you more willing/curious about the whole thing, so you go from there. If the whole idea turns you off, then that's the end of the conversation, and anal sex just won't happen in your relationship. Nothing wrong with that. If you decide it's a nice gesture and it makes you more willing to share that part of yourself if he is also sharing his with you, then you try anal sex and see how it goes. Some might like it, some still might not, and that's really just fine! But to me the important thing is going through this sexual exploration/decision-making process together (whether you do it or not, whether you like it or not)... that's the part that builds trust and intimacy, to me. It's not being scared away by one word or idea that the other person suggests (e.g. the "EXIT ONLY!!!" declaration), but to delve into it, see how it might be accommodated, see how to better trust and know each other... that's the whole point for me. I just dislike any reaction based on fear, when it comes to sexual desires/fantasies. I encourage both people to at least entertain the idea of what their partner wants to do/doesn't want to do, and to work from there to see how those needs can be met. It's not about tit-for-tat, in my mind. I've been trying to explain it, maybe I've failed... but for me it's about trust and exploration together. Maybe because for ktspktsp and I, we're all we've got, and possibly all we're gonna get. No previous experiences, and at the moment no possibility of other experiences with other people (though we are both open to that process of evaluating our boundaries as well, if that time comes), so we negotiate these things together. I hope this makes sense. For us, it's about the long-haul, and always finding new aspects of our sexual compatibility. Hopefully, after this both Ustwo and pig can understand that we're on the same page, here. I wholly agree with this statement: Quote:
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I'm totally cool with whatever people want to do in bed. We all know that. :)
But I, personally, have no interest in strapping on a dildo and 'doing' a guy. There's no titillation in that for me. Not mentally and certainly not physically. Therefore, if the situation were that I didn't want to have anal sex, then we just wouldn't be having anal sex. I totally support that choice being the prerogative of the woman and a non-negotiable one if she chooses. It's a particularly invasive act emotionally and otherwise. |
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Look, folks, I don't mean to force a way of thinking on people here. It's just that I think if *particular* circumstances/personalities (the ones I outlined earlier) exist in a given sexual situation, then things can be done to explore the possibilities together. I don't think it's that strange of an idea, really. I do think all parties reserve a veto right to whatever they're uncomfortable with, obviously! But for *me,* I prefer that sexual vetoes come from a place of information and at least giving the idea a fair chance (even in one's head), not from a place of knee-jerk fear, which is where a lot of the posts come from that bother me. When one is looking at a potential lifetime of marriage, and the idea of exploring things sexually with one other person... I just feel like both people have to be a little more open and a little less fearful with new things. |
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Ustwo... the fact that you even know about that video clip is scary. What are you trying to tell us? |
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Seconded... *shudder* |
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I have to say, Ustwo - not only am I on board with the other posters by being both benumbed and befuddled at your knowing of and posting that video but I am also still laughing aloud from time to time as your "What what?" response to Charlatan pops into my mind. Actually, I have even found myself saying "What what?" . . . not that there is anything wrong with that. |
Ustwo: I didn't click the link until just now....all I can say is congrats...now THAT is a true find.
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UsTwo's collection of eclectic YouTube links worries me more and more each day.
Kinda like that crazy uncle ya had when you were a kid. The one that drove that old junky van with no windows in the back. |
Ustwo is to youtube as host is to google.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Sanford01.jpg SHUT UP YOU BIG DUMMEH! |
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I really do wana try it, even if it is only to get healer off my back about it LOL Who know's, maybe i'll even come to love it...but the initial period before you get fucked in the ass for the first time...you have to admit that it is kinda scarey. Is it as painful as losing your virginity? |
Mandy: PM me if you want more details (I've posted about first time anal sex several times on TFP, if I remember right...), but NO, I don't think it's anything like losing your virginity. It's more like taking a really big dump, if you know what I mean... basically, having poop the size of a penis in your ass. If you can get past that feeling (which requires LOTS OF LUBE, and I mean good, thick lube) and learn to relax a little bit in the process, it does get easier after a while...
But are you sure that YOU want to try it?... not just because Healer wants to, but because you do? It makes a huge difference, I think. |
Yeah I do...so much!
I know that porn is absolutely nothing to go on, but it looks extremely hot and it makes me quite horny just watching it :) so, any and all info i can get that would make it easier for me, i'd appreciate that. i know what it feels like when Healer puts a finger in...LOL it alrready feels like i've got a poop the size of a popcicle in there...imagine the feeling with a penis? LOL |
Mandy, I recommend you guys start with a small silicone dildo to get you more used to the feeling of something stuck up your ass. We had 2 small dildos, graduated in size, that were perfect for introducing us to the art of anal play. :) Once we played around a lot with those, with tons of lube, it made the introduction of the penis not as scary... because it was only slightly bigger than the last dildo we had used. Does that make sense? See if you can find some high-quality sex toys (silicone, and we usually put a condom over that, for easy clean-up/disinfection) to get started with. :)
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AWESOME!
But the thought of even a mini dildo in my bum frightens me, but i am willing to try it out. I CANT WAIT TO GO TO ADULT WORLD :D |
Yeah, but at least this way you can start by controlling it yourself... you can handle the dildo and push it in when you're ready, etc. You can teach Healer the best way to insert it for your pleasure, you know? And whether or not you get a silicone one, I still recommend you use a condom on it every time, seriously for the clean-up... that's the only unknown about anal sex, whether or not there's going to be poo on the thing when it comes out. :p
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That's hot. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...thats_hott.jpg |
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Mandy, 14 years ago, my wife was in the same boat as you. Now, as long as I get her hot before, her vaginal lubrication will run down, and we can have anal with no further lube.
From a medical standpoint, unless your other is about 8 inches around, you will not be torn. Your rectum can stretch further than your vagina as the pubis bone is not there to limit you. Lube, patience, and lots of practice, before you know it, he will be balls deep in there :thumbsup: |
Good Lord, I love anal sex.
It's almost becoming a fetish. That is all. lol |
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bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! my tummy hurts...i cant stop laughing :D "balls deep in there" LOL thanks for that piece of advice, i will be sure to practise :D :thumbsup: |
Few things are quite as much fun to practise. :crazy:
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But when both are not willing for the fun, it just remains as a desire or fantasy
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I would be open to it if she wanted it, but there is a perfectly good vagina an inch away that I would prefer being in.
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