squeeeb

if you are a woman who wears the low cut shirts that show cleavage:

how do you feel about guys looking at your cleavage? do you show it on purpose?

i ask because i try try try to make eye contact, ignore it, but dammit, i can't look away. so i end up looking at a woman's breasts, and then i assume some of them get upset, but dammit, if you don't' want men looking, why would you wear something that shows them off?

i assume some of the women do it cause they get a thrill knowing that they turn guys on. i assume some of the women are just trying to look nice, like the shirt, and aren't intentionally trying to show cleavage.

so, how do you feel about it?

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Willravel

Do a search before starting a thread, please.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...light=cleavage

MSD

Oh snap.

Jenna

Well, if I'm looking for that type of attention, I'll show cleavage... which usually is at an evening type of event.

I've gotten pretty used to guys looking, my breasts are pretty large so it doesn't really need cleavage... I just take it as a compliment now half the time. But when I was single it bothered me a lot.

Willravel

I'll admit that I read the last sentence a few times. I tried to imagine what it would be like to be objectified for a sexual body part whether or not I wanted to.

While I don't walk around with an erection, I do have several pairs of pants that are lean in the crotch area. Outlines are present from time to time. Do I mind if I catch people looking? Not really. Staring, or drooling I'd more likely find funny than offensive, but then again men aren't objectified in the same way as women in my experience. Or maybe it's simply that kind of thing doesn't bother men. Either way, I'd not think "How dare you?" unless they started taking pictures, and even then I don't really see myself getting offended.

Ustwo

#1 if you show cleavage it was meant to be looked at. If a woman is showing cleavage and doesn't want it to be looked at then she better stay home.

#2 I employ a number of young women. Apparently I was hanging in such a way as to be obvious and they were more than happy to stare and point it out to each other, I finally caught one blushing and figured out what was going on. Didn't bother me.

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To be fair, that thread IS over 4 months old.

little_tippler

I'd say a woman's cleavage, when "dressed" right, can be quite beautiful.

If it's on show, even if not overtly, and is attractive, I'd say it's natural to look.

I think if men look ,and it's on show, it's quite flattering. If that's all they look at, all the time, then it can become upsetting because you want to think there's other things about you of interest! Of course, guys are so visual that they find it hard to stop looking.

Blatant staring, for a long period of time, is creepy. Eek stalker.

I am not offended by men looking, if it's not exaggerated. If I'm wearing a low-cut top, then I'm probably looking for that attention. But that's just me.

I don't usually wear that sort of clothing to work, because that is one place where I generally don't want and in fact dislike that kind of "sexual" attention.

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TotalMILF

What little_tippler said.

If I'm showing cleavage it's because I want the attention and I definitely won't be mad if I catch a few people looking. If I'm not putting the girls on display and the guy still won't take his eyes of my chest... well, that's creepy.

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Halx

If only a bulge in a man's pants had the same effect on women as cleavage does on men.

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squeeeb

i was asking more of a poll type question. if you get upset, as opposed to why do you get upset.

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StellaLuna

I get upset if the guy has his head practically down my shirt (unless that was my goal). I'm proud of my breasts and I know I have great cleavage because my peeps tell me so. I try not to wear very revealing things to work because of where I work, but when we go out I'll show off!

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jewels

Who says it doesn't?

JustJess

Little Tippler for the win!
Agreed, and etc.

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Well, ok. *puts on tight pants*

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jewels

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

Plan9

Female cleavage:

Don't dress up like a fruit stand unless you want eyes fondling you. I don't typically date women with gigundo boobahs so this usually isn't an issue.

Male cleavage:

Hah, I own a pair of Express jeans specifically for the moose-knuckle factor.

Worked rather well... once they got into the clubhouse, they couldn't stop fondling it whenever they saw it hanging out under half a millimeter of brushed denim.

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settie

*grins and raises hand* I love to check men out, front and back. It can be hard to stop myself from staring at a man's bum or bulge, especially in a pair of jeans...rawr.
My days just wouldn't be the same if I couldn't check men out. :P
As for cleavage, heck yeah! I like my breasts, and am not afraid to let some cleavage show. Also, I don't like shirts up close to my neck, like turtlenecks or high collared shirts, they make me feel like I'm about to be strangled, so I pull on the collar all day, and ruin the shirt. Haha. So most of my shirts have a low cut top...I love v-neck tops. ^_^ Breasts really are for show.
It used to bug me, a long time ago, if I caught someone looking at my chest. But I got over it. The only time it bothers me now is if a guy leans in uncomfortably close to get a better peek inside, or worse, pushes his face towards my chest...that's too pervy, and I'll probably say something to him along the lines of "looking for something?"

snowy

If I'm showing them off, yeah, you're free to look, but at least feign a little politeness. Don't be a total lech.

What I really hate is the leers. A couple years ago, this 60-year-old Indian professor of mechanical engineering totally leered at me from across a crowded bar. Like he couldn't stop staring at my cleavage, even though we were a good 30 ft away from each other.

So yeah, look, but don't keep STARING at me like a piece of meat.

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Shauk

but you are a peice of meat!

you just have personality and such in there too

tinydancer

How fucking rude. That's about as polite as I can be. How very fucking old fashioned of you to say. Women are meerly around for men to gawk at and if she doesn't want that attention then she BETTER stay home, whore?! Bluntly put that's what your comment sums up to Ustwo. At least this is how I take it to be. You've got to be kidding me. Honestly.


Some of us women don't have a choice. Don't get me wrong. I'm not the type of woman that wears something low cut and gets pissed if I see an occasional gesture or stare at my boobs. Then again, by no means do I wear a "revealing" shirt wanting attention or doing it on purpose to feel better about myself knowing men are staring. I wear the clothes I do because I like them and I feel good wearing them. I don't mind guys looking here and there... but seriously.
Now back to the not having a choice thing. My tits are size 38 D. Sometimes DD depending on the brand and just life in general. And I'm a fairly average size woman in the rest of my body. About 142 and 5'2''. So yeah... just got blessed with some tig ol' bitties. The clothes being sold these days in stores are amazing. In a sarcastic sense, btw. It's very hard to find a shirt, even in the winter months... that isn't low cut or boob revealing. Whether or not you have a rack or just pre-pubescent buds. It's tough! I've tried! Most fashionable clothes these days don't include turtle necks or shirts that button up to my neckline. So before you down women in general saying " if she doesn't want to be looked at in such a way then stay home" think about other factors.

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Im_not_bitter

I check all the time : Ass,boobs,legs,etc. .Whatever is showing I will look and it'll probably be a couple glance, and I might even comment on how good they look. If someone say to the girls "you have such beautiful eyes" wouldnt they be very flatter? So why is this different? obviously not saying you have beautiful boobs because apparently its inappropriate(depending on the crowd), but just glancing is like giving the compliment.

If I move on from that and not look at them just as some girl with a nice rack, then they should move on too.

The eyes is apart of their body's just as the boobs or ass, what is there to be offensive about? unless its the only thing people are dulging on or the guy is like leering at you or personifying that as the whole you then yeah that's pretty derogatory.

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Infinite_Loser

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JStrider

cmon man its the internet... really need people to post the pics for you...
http://images.google.com/images?sour...-8&sa=N&tab=wi




I look... its kind of like a radar that cant be turned off...

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Plan9

Mmm, geology!

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surferlove007

You're just lucky I don't catch you half the time when it's other women!

Plan9

Or what? You'll gouge out his eyes and hit his balls with a ruler? C'mon.

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surferlove007

LOL Yes, that's exactly what I do every time he does it.
He knows I'm just playing...but as long as it's not overtly obvious then whatever. Any who I'd prefer him be checking mine out, which is normally the case.

Plan9

Just as long as he doesn't overtly fall into the grand canyon of boobage, huh?

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Oh, that reminds me of my intarweb porn rant. I should post it.

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blahblah454

mmmmm now that is some hot ass cleavage!!! Look at those fractures. The luster!!!

surferlove007

Ugh this is reminding me of geology last semester.
My professor was from Iceland and mumbled to himself in front of the class for an hour and half twice a week.

Oh my...cleavage, even in college it still makes me giggle when looking at rocks.

Plan9

Hah... oh, the IRONY... the IRONY! I can't take it.

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surferlove007

Probably should of worded that differently...oh well. It is 1:00 A.M.
I'm really educated sounding now :-p

Plan9

More of an inside joke, really. Carry on.

You have more education in your drunken stupors than I do holding up my DD-214.

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BearNaked

I LOVE LOOKING AT BREASTS!!!!

I also love looking at bums, eyes, hair, legs, cheek bones, basically the whole darn package.

I also love watching and observing children from newborn to adulthood, seeing how they grow. I have two daughters that are now 31 and 20 years old, I would have to lie to say I never observed their various stages of their physical growth, watching it with admiration as they develop in to beautiful women. I have watched my son, nephews and nieces, friends kids etc. as they grow. More than anything now, I just love watching my grandchildren.

I love looking at other guys too, seeing what kind of shape they are in, how they dress and wear their hair. Noticing their 'package' happens too, especially when they dress to draw attention to it.

I love watching and observing everything else about human nature too, whether it is that someone is overweight, talks fast, has a cute voice, is too drunk, is excessively muscular, is balding, has a handicap, and on, and on.

BASICALLY I LOVE WATCHING HUMAN NATURE.

What I do HATE is the ones that take it beyond this general observing and act like leeches. I have seen and known some of these guys, though I can't be sure, it seems like their intents are not at all honourable in design. Where the stare so intently, and even try to gain better vantage points. They are so obvious because their whole focus turns to the gawking that they don't even realize it is obvious to others.

So women, wear your breast proudly, they will be looked at. No matter the size or shape, they are what you were given so no women should be ashamed. In fact, I have a special fondness for the average to smaller sized ones, I know, weird eh?

creepysusie

I honestly wear low cut shirts for self confidence and a little attention.
There is unwanted attention that the low cut does attract (creepy old men on transit), but when even when it garners a little hidden stare from my boyfriend, it makes me feel sexy and special.
I have never caught another guy stare or peek at my chest other than my boyfriend really, other than one other odd buddy, so I never really thought about it.
I wear it because it looks nice and I feel rather beautiful or good looking in it. It doesn't really have anything to do with power, unless I know I'll be seeing my beloved.

Redlemon

Back in college, one of the mixed a cappella groups was hosting a show, and in the program they had assigned nicknames to each of the singers. One of the girls was nicknamed "Massive Cleavage"; she was a geology major.

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naota172

a few years ago, i sat by this girl i knew in a class, she was "well endowed" and wore shirts that showed it off, so everytime i came in to class, i walked by her and looked. i think she caught me, cuz she kind of looks at me like im creepy now. whatever, i learned my lesson :/

ItWasMe

With me, it's not the cleavage; it's the legs. I guess I don't mind, as long as someone isn't staring at them while talking to me. "You come here often?" Yes, they come here about as often as I do. They kind of insist. Jeez.

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Wyodiver33

With me, it's not about degrading women or treating them like pieces of meat. I look but I keep it brief. Nature has dialed me into being attracted to the female body. Am I going to apologize fore that? Nope. Even my girlfriend understands that. A woman should not have to wear a burka but at the same time she should understand that if she's going to wear revealing clothes guys are going to look. And I don't mean to say that staring is ok. It's not. But as a heterosexual man, I can't help but look.

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