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The_Jazz 09-14-2007 06:38 AM

Redlemon, you may win Threadjack of the Year with that one.

Ustwo 09-14-2007 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Redlemon, you may win Threadjack of the Year with that one.

I have to agree and just so you know its not accidental....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=17jplpjCaec&mode=related&search=
'with Sanchez Steamer & company'

Sultana 09-14-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya
... and no one is immune to reacting to that. E. coli anywhere outside the digestive tract is a very bad thing, even if it's coming from our own bodies.

Amen sistah!

If she doesn't understand that, I just give up.

Plan9 09-14-2007 08:27 AM

...

I gotta know:

Weird degradation I'm-Yo-Bitch complex-afflicted folks aside... do people consider this kind of activity romantic?

...

Scenario:

"Oh, honey... I love you. We have a great life. We bought a house, have three beautiful children, and are saving for that beachfront property... and I suck your wang straight from my gaping shit-funnel."

...

Eeergh. (pours Listerine on his soul)

shesus 09-14-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by abaya

hahaha...YES! I forgot about those stickers. Mr. Ick it is.

surferlove007 09-14-2007 09:12 PM

This reminds me of a Carlos Mencia thing I heard on the radio...
How does it go...

"It's NEVER ok to leave the door to the bathroom open when you're going number two!"
"No you don't understand, it's never ok!"
"You know why?"
"I pretend nothing comes out of there...because I eat at that restaurant sometimes!"

well it made me chuckle.
Yea as far as the whole head after anal, that's just a no.
I thinks its just unsanitary, take a shower or something after and then do the oral.

snowy 09-14-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon
[ useless aside ]

Do you recall the Terry Tate, Office Linebacker ads? The narrator of the ad is "Ron Felcher, CEO, Felcher & Sons"; it even spells it out on the ad. I nearly spit my drink out while watching the Superbowl, and with my parents there, I didn't want to explain why. I still can't believe that they got away with that one!

[ /useless aside ]

To add to that, I was watching Big Gay Al sing "I'm Super (Thanks For Asking)" on YouTube this evening, and lo and behold the logo on the piano says "Felcher and Sons."

:lol:

Sticky 09-18-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl
To add to that, I was watching Big Gay Al sing "I'm Super (Thanks For Asking)" on YouTube this evening, and lo and behold the logo on the piano says "Felcher and Sons."

:lol:

Here is the video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=El-qtrfCJwc

Plan9 09-18-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shesus
hahaha...YES! I forgot about those stickers. Mr. Ick it is.

That's Mr. Yukk, not Mr. Ick.

Aladdin Sane 09-19-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya
You've been reading too much Harry Potter.

/winces at the idea of Filtch, um... felching.

Anyway! With all this A2M talk, I'm thinking about how rimming plays into this. In the ideal rimming situation, the receiver has washed thoroughly and the giver's tongue doesn't go particularly far anyway, so it should be all safe. But if the receiver hasn't washed, then the giver is at the same risk for contracting hepatitis as with A2M. So, as always, good use of soap and water before anal play is key.

Now, the only safe way I can imagine doing A2M (which in itself is a huge turn-off to me, porn or not), is by the guy wearing a condom during anal, then removing it for oral (if he's STD-free), or putting on a new condom quickly. All of that takes too long/is too complicated for porn, so of course they're not going to show or do that. But in reality, I think that's the only safe way it could be done.

I don't see how washing makes rimming much safer. Just because no poop can be seen doesn't mean there's no bacteria there.

I've wanted to rim my wife, but I'm chicken.
Actually, I wish I could convince myself that she was a chicken, because it's one of my favorite foods. Is there any chance ass tastes like chicken?

abaya 09-19-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aladdin Sane
I don't see how washing makes rimming much safer. Just because no poop can be seen doesn't mean there's no bacteria there.

I've wanted to rim my wife, but I'm chicken.

Well, certainly it's always going to be a slightly risky activity. But I don't see how using copious amounts of hot water and soap to clean one part of the body from bacteria is going to be significantly less effective than cleaning another body part in the same manner (e.g. the hands, which come into contact with a heck of lot more bacteria than we'd like to think), as long as normal bowel movements are going on (no diarrhea; it had to be said) and there isn't a lot of hair for shit (literally) to get caught on.

And hey, if you really want to try it but don't want to go tongue-to-skin, just do it with a dental dam or saran wrap. I would think that at least with saran wrap, you get some decent sensation of the texture of the ass, without being in direct contact with all the ickies that might be waiting for you. If you decide it's worth the risk after that, then your wife can soap up and get ready for the next step. If not, no big deal... you played it safe, anyway.

BTW: Here's something about the safety of rimming from a doc in San Francisco... says it's basically okay if you wash with soap and warm water beforehand: http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/drk/oralsex5.asp

Slims 09-19-2007 04:57 PM

I can see it both ways.

I don't think she would be at risk for hepatitus, since she would have to have hepatitus in her system already in order to be excreting it.

It is also true that anything coming out of her butt is/was already inside of her.


however, e-coli live in the large intestine, and can cause quite a lot of trouble when introduced 'upstream'



I personally suggest a TFP A2M trial. Let her try to prove her point, and tell us what happens.

longbough 09-21-2007 04:34 PM

While the anus is full of bacteria and ass-to-mouth presents some degree of risk - it's surprisingly not as extreme a risk as people tend to assume. It certainly not FORBIDDINGLY risky.

Medically speaking, the mouth (and whole digestive tract for that matter) is considered external to the body, believe it or not. As such it has a whole bunch of defense mechanisms (e.g. gastric acid and digestive juices) as well as a well-described network of lymph nodes along the digestive tract. In fact your digestive system is home to many bacteria already. Most of the bacteria in fecal material came from the digestive tract to begin with.

Now I wouldn't advise eating shit on a regular basis because there is a threshold on how much your digestive system can handle at once - but, unless someone has hepatitis, dysentery, cholera, rotavirus, c. difficile or some other transmissible illness one really one shouldn't worry as much about ass-to-mouth. While I couldn't class it as a sterile practice - but neither is rubbing your eye with an unwashed hand. And, as with all sexual practice, basic laws of hygiene ought to apply as well (e.g. bathe).

I repeat: Your mouth and digestive tract are considered external to the body.

That's why people don't drop dead from rimming.

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

mixedmedia 09-21-2007 04:47 PM

I don't care if it's healthy or not, I'm not interested in it.

Analingus, yes, I can get down with that, I'm generally not worried about cleanliness on the outside of the anus or as far inside as my tongue can reach, but once a penis starts plunging around in there...ehhh, I don't know, just seems distasteful to me personally.

longbough 09-21-2007 05:00 PM

well, the question was about health.

no accounting for ... uuuuh ... taste.

mixedmedia 09-21-2007 05:11 PM

Granted. :)

If it's a largely healthy practice for couples to engage in, then I'm all for it. At least, as far as this practice is concerned, the person at risk knows exactly whose shit they're dealing with. ;)

777 09-21-2007 05:26 PM

last I heard on Love Line with Dr. Drew Pinsky, oral from vagina to anal and back is unhealthy. Bacteria from the anus getting to the vagina can cause a serious infection. ĄżAnd someone wants this in their mouth?! Have they seen what lands in the toilet after using it?

In fact Sultana, since you're in the LA area, give Love Line a call, and tape it, or have your friend there with you. Now you'll have a Dr on your side :)

Nimetic 09-21-2007 05:37 PM

It's a different digestive system obviously... because one belongs to the partner, one to the person doing oral.

Anyways... it's up to her what she does, but she good look up "fecal-oral route" to see what diseases are passed in this manner.

Sultana 09-22-2007 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 777
last I heard on Love Line with Dr. Drew Pinsky, oral from vagina to anal and back is unhealthy. Bacteria from the anus getting to the vagina can cause a serious infection.

There was no mention of vagina, or anal to vaginal sex here.

mixedmedia 09-22-2007 05:05 AM

I know that anal to vaginal sex can cause yeast infections. I found this out the hard way.

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Originally Posted by Nimetic
It's a different digestive system obviously... because one belongs to the partner, one to the person doing oral.

Anyways... it's up to her what she does, but she good look up "fecal-oral route" to see what diseases are passed in this manner.

??? But the person doing oral is also the person who was being anally penetrated therefore any fecal matter that is on the penis came from the same person.

analog 09-22-2007 11:19 AM

I can't believe anyone would think that just because the bacteria lives somewhere in your body, that it's ok to be anywhere in your body.


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