I notice that still no one has answered abayas question ....

What can I say I want to know how a vagina can look like an apes nose or catchers mit myself ....

To me they've always looked kinda like dried fruit -- a slightly mishappen apricot (in comparison to normal dried apricots) or a fig maybe but I don't see the correlation between an apes nose or a catchers mit.

Hmmmm.........this is dissimilar to anything I've ever seen.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...60_18923_1.jpg

Well......I dont think so.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/kingkong.jpg

This seems more likely. :orly: (a camels toe)

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...g_w300h278.jpg

AMEN to that!

They're implying that they've never acutllay seen a vagina in their lives so they're merely responding to the rumours gathered at the bowling lanes and billiard halls, ie. the gossip by teenage, high school drop-outs who've never seen one either. :thumbsup:

Yup.

You might deem it superficial but people are superficial beings. We like to believe ourselves above such pettiness, but it's in our nature.

Or are you saying that, as a women, you've never asked a guy to trim himself for you?

Yes, I can honestly say I have NEVER asked a guy to trim for me.

I've never asked any of my partners to change themself in that fashion - as for vaginal appearance - judging someone on that is like a girl taking a guy into the bedroom and saying

"Sorry you're not long / thick enough for this ride. Thanks though"

Vaginal appearance can in some aspects be dictated by genetics, same as penis length / girth.

Well, then I'll chalk it up to a guy thing (Men are, after all, more visually stimulated than women are). Sorry, but I just find lots of hair to be a turn-off. A little patch of hair is fine; Housing the Amazon jungle isn't. Besides, I keep myself relatively trimmed so I don't think it's too much to ask for a woman to do the same.

Nope, have never asked a guy to trim himself. Then again, only been with two guys where it really mattered... the one guy shaved regularly to make his dick and balls look bigger (which I thought was pretty arrogant and gross, actually), and the other guy I married... and he trims as a matter of course, not because of anything I've said. If he didn't trim, would I care? Well, in terms of going down on him, it might make it slightly more difficult (getting long hair caught in my teeth), but otherwise I wouldn't care. As long as he washed regularly and kept it clean, why should I ever hold something like that against someone I loved?

The thing is, I don't really care about hair preferences (or penis shape/size/length, as long as we're discussing superficial things). What I am trying to understand is why ANYONE would compare a vagina (not the hair, but the actual body part) to an ape's nose or a catcher's mitt, in a public forum. That's just unkind and unhelpful.

I'm not saying you should hold it against him, I'm just saying that everyone has their preferences. I don't like women who don't at least take it upon themselves to trim once in a while. I find it unbecoming, unattractive and a complete turn-off. As far as I'm concerned, less is more. I don't see why you WOULND'T at least trim it, anyway (But that's just me).

And, ummm... I don't know anything about a vagina looking like an ape's nose. A taco? Definitely! A catcher's mitt, maybe. But definitely not an ape's nose.

And, off-topic, when a woman says "Size doesn't matter!", she's lying through her teeth (Assuming she has any) :D. Just saying...

Look man, I've made it very clear on other threads that everyone has a right to their own preferences. I am not saying that I don't *appreciate* things like trimming and size and whatnot. Great if it happens. Also great if it doesn't. I don't require them, or hold them against someone if he's not trimming, or if he doesn't have a 100% "normal"/large penis. As long as basic hygiene and skill are in effect, it's alright with me.

The ape's nose and catcher's mitt thing was mentioned by two members earlier in this thread, and they have not yet returned to answer me. I find it extremely unhelpful to post such things on a public forum, with the assumption that it's okay to say these kinds of things. It's downright inconsiderate. The least these people could do is get their asses back on this thread and explain what they are talking about.

I don't wanna be the village retard, but I'd say we're pretty much on topic here.

I mean... I didn't get lost anywhere in the thread... and I've got the attention span of a teenage boy in a porn store.

[/QUOTE=Midnight]...BUT - that doesnt mean I don't want a man like Leto down there having a look. I totally agree about both my epesiotomy scar, and the fact that there is hair there. I am NOT a little girl and don't want any man near me that wants things shaved bare down there. (well manicured/trimmed of course is more than reasonable to ask for) .../QUOTE]

Now you've done it! so much for concentrating at work.

I'm all about the topic... did someone say we were getting off track? :)

This threads on topic, close enough. Threads go where they will anyway, and its almost impossible to chart the course they will take.

Its either that or someone saw a woman with the largest labia in human history, I think its the former. A catchers mitt??? The pic seems to prove this a major exaggeration, to say the least.

dude, i have seen more porn than a dorm full of fratboys put together. as for "exotic" vag (by exotic, i mean what most men would consider "ugly"), there are sites for that, which i happen to enjoy...

i still wanna see a vag that looks like a catcher's mit and an apes nose. post a pic dammit....

That sounds like something to turn into a merit badge.

Or for me to challenge.

As a guy, I say that bad mouthing vaginae is uncalled for.

Perhaps there are exceptions for the the vagina's owner, but never the vagina......

Ahem....Back on track, to me, I've never seen one that I would call a gorilla's nose or catcher's mitt. I've seen some that I wasn't particularly fond of, but never anything I that would call ugly.

And hair or not, whatever works for the lady is fine for me.

if you take it as a challenge, and you care to accept that challenge, i can point you in a direction to get you started....

not only do i agree totally with every word you typed, i LOVE the use of the plural "vaginae"....

Good point. I didn't think of that. :)

Hi.
I'm new.
First post - huzzah.

I don't find the vagina 'beautiful' as such. I find them interesting, and unique (I didn't truly realise how unique until just a night ago) but not beautiful. I don't think that's indicative of repression, or anything like that - it's an aesthetic thing, and the composition of the shapes don't make a 'beautiful' picture to me.

The female body, however - that's a different story.

As a maven, I would think any like minded person would be interested in good-mouthing the vulvae.


/sorry Had to say it.

Catchers Mitt Times Two!
 

Friggin' awesome, dude.

How often does a man get to refer to more than one vagina at the same time in the same conversation using a plural like that?

Life-changing!

Like maybe you have TWO of them in front of you at the same time.

Epic!

God, options.

Which one to poke first...

Vaginae... How would you pronouce that?

They are all good though. Especially more than one at once. :)

Good God. I've created a monster.

For the most part... /me loves the 'gina.

Sure there are some that look like raw meat, but I'd venture my junk may not win any beauty contests.

Great, now you say raw meat, thats has about as much class as a catchers mitt & an apes nose. Somebody just shoot me.

There's a lot to be said in favour of that.

I won't shoot you, but you're getting the idea. :)

Raw meat??? wtf.

I saw you on the board and I knew you'd see that. (Dave slides down in his chair, attempts to hide, and wishes he'd never started this thread.)

Heres on idea: Please try, just try, to have a little tact when posting about vaginae. The only thing that brings some class to TFP are the wonderful women that come here. Lets try not to piss off every last one of em.

This message is brought to you by, The Organization for the Kinder Treatment of Vaginae. AKA OKTV

While many of the ladies are an asset, I don't think anyone's gendar or sexual preference is a weight that swings the board in one direction or the other. Somewhere around here someone has a quote from analog in their sig that basically says you are going to get offended or people are going to not agree with you from time to time and deal with it.

And I assure I was not trying to piss anyone off. "cause if I was tryin'...

I went to an all boys high school for 6 years. When I hear vaginae referred to with phrases like that I honestly shudder, just reminds me all over again of those 6 years.

For the record, I'm not offended. I like my vagina just fine, and it doesn't look like a ape's nose, catcher's mitt, or raw meat. But I don't think anyone else's vaginas look like that, either. And I do know that several women here struggle with accepting their own body parts as beautiful, often due to comments like these that get repeated over and over again.

Sure, you can say that they should harden the fuck up and ignore those comments... but why is there even a need to make those comments? Isn't it enough to just say that you like/don't like vaginas, aesthetically? Why the need to say they look like an animal part/hunk of leather/uncooked meat? I'd be getting just as upset if a bunch of the women were making fun of guys' penis shapes/sizes in this public forum, beyond just expressing an opinion about like/dislike.

Once again, I'm all for personal preferences. But is there really any need to be so specific about "abnormal" genitals, when everyone is born with what they've got, and nothing can be done about it (other than surgery, which everyone here seems to think is crazy... although if they were with a woman with an "ape's nose," maybe they'd be all for the surgery)?

Hair trimming/shaving is one thing, and everyone has their choice of whether or not to do that, and what they'd prefer for their partner to do. But shape of vagina/labia/etc is something else entirely, is genetically-determined and therefore pretty much unchangeable. I thought we'd discussed that already in another thread.

Back to the vaginae cheveux (sp?)

I'm glad several people had something smart to say about the bare look, it makes more sense to me now. Upon further thought, I've realized part of my hang up. A muff is like a natural fig leaf for a woman. If you have hair down there, you can be naked and still be covered. Sans hair feels much more naked and vulnerable, and we all know what happens when an animal is cornered.

the cool thing about shaved is, it's all right there out in the open for the licking, you can see everything better and it's so smooth.... the cool thing about unshaved is it looks wild and untamed and sexy...

Thank You abaya, for saying what needed to be said, yet I was unable to. I sometimes lack the ability to properly verbalize my own thoughts. You never have that problem, and are certainly an asset to this forum. You often help me out when my insufficiencies with the written word are obvious to the most casual member. I only wish that more members had the ability to put themselves in another members shoes, as you do, and help to say what that member cant. You truly have a caring heart.

i find it difficult to accept my vagina as beautiful, because people dont tend to talk about preferences or whats "normal", i mean porn is a good source but theres no feed back
so i like this thread, but i agree that comments about how vaginea in general look that could be taken as negative is a little un-nerving for me as somebody trying to take in opinions to help my self esteem.
although i am very happy that many people have said that they are a beautiful thing in general and specifics arent the be all and end all. :D

Clare, believe me, although I haven't personally seen your vagina, I have no doubt in my mind that its beautiful....:)

They're ALL beautiful, in their own personal way.

Oops. haven't been here to TFP for a week. So did I accidentally say something offensive? oops, sorry!

I didn't mean it to be offensive. It's an internet forum, and the OP's question invited me to give an opinion, and i simply expounded on my opinion. Yes, I find them very attractive, but there were a few exceptions that I saw in porn before that made me think otherwise. And I simply explained in what aspect they made me feel like they were unattractive by comparing it to an image.. since I don't have an actual picture, I made a comparison to something that people would be able to relate to.

Vaginas are very attractive to me and there is nothing wrong with them at all. I just mentioned the 0.00001% that made me think otherwise, is all.

yes

Hah, it is why I signed up in the first place!

I hear ya bro, I have a tendency to piss off some myself, one in particular.....:eek:

Yes and no....

It has to be in the right order. And the right light.

I don't enjoy glaring-lights-pussy-splayed-open porn.... at all. I also don't enjoy the shaved look.

I do really enjoy looking at them, apart from those caveats - yes they are totally gorgeous.

I especially enjoy the rear view - it can look like a ripe fruit... I gained a taste for this view later in life and now it really turns me on. I think some women feel that allowing themselves to be viewed that way is not so flattering, or even degrading. Is that so?

Hmmm I honestly don't know Chumley

I can't see how it would be degrading.

I don't think I would have a problem with someone taking shots from that angle if I wasn't paranoid about my ass (no matter how much people tell me I have a nice ass and they like wide hips I still feel sometimes like I should have wide load tattoo'd on there)

Actually, I like giving my husband that view... I feel more carnal/animalistic, in a way, because I have to be on all fours, and I feel ready for him to just come up and start fucking me from behind. Which I find very hot, :love: and not degrading at all.

I remember Abaya posting in exhibition years ago, that very pose, and I agree, damn hottest thing ever!

Hey, thanks Lucifer! I'd actually totally forgotten about that pic when I was posting earlier... but maybe there was a subconscious link. I'll have to dig that one out again for my husband. :D

to hell with your husband. how about a re-post for the rest of us?

Nope! That was my one and only foray into Exhib, and there won't be another one. :)

Now, getting back on topic, I'm still wondering about this question... for those who dislike non-normal vaginae (wow, spell-check says that's actually correct), would it really be a deal-breaker at some point? Let's say everything else about the girl was perfect, but maybe you didn't like the way her vagina looked... what would you do? And vice-versa, for women who don't like particular kinds of penises, would that also be a deal-breaker?

This is the only way I can see a vaginae / mitt comparison (though imagine the ball is a penis I guess)
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu..._and_glove.jpg

Just so I'm very very clear... I am completely and totally in love with every vagina available. As for appearance... I could care less. I appreciate someone who takes care of themselves in a general sense and I believe that vagina maintenance is part of that (as is C&B care as well) and even appreciate the bare look as I can really see my beloved (A little over the top? Maybe but I thought that it might add to the tact and effect of the post).

I was actually talking to some newer friends and while they like the bare look, it has lost its novelty. There is something to be said about that too.

I'd deal with it.....

I may do a little digging of my own! When is halx cleaning the database??? Dont worry abaya, I'll keep it close to my heart, well something like that........(Dave frantically searches for the pic.....)

You removed the pic! Thats so cruel.....:sad:

Well, you know, I removed it quite a while ago... nothing personal, just doing some housecleaning. :) Let's stay focused here, people!

BUT, BUT, BUT:

If they put some hot boobs / asses on stop signs and traffic lights... maybe men would pay attention.

I dated a woman briefly a while ago who claimed to have broken up with men because their penis' were too small. I thought that was the height of shallow behaviour.

Gee, I cant seem to concentrate now, all my blood flow had been diverted away from my brain. I'm sure I had something really positive to add, yet it continues to allude me. I have this mental image transfixed in the vast uncharted regions of my mind......:orly:

Oh yes, now I remember. I'm not sure what you mean by non-normal vaginae, unless thats one thats obviously malformed in some way. Although all vaginae I've come into close contact with have been similar, they all have their own unique shape. Some may have larger or smaller labia, as with the clitoris, others may have inner lips that are more or less pronounced, but I have yet to come across one that I considered non-normal. As long as proper hygiene and trimming is taken care of, I cant imagine this ever being a deal-breaker.

Do I find vaginae (I'm assuming it's pronounced something like: VAJ-in-ay or va-JEEN-ay) attractive? Yes.

However, we're really talking about vulvae. The vagina is not normally exposed.

I find all vulvae (that I've seen in person or pictures) to be attractive -- sure. But I would also hope to believe that I'm far more attracted to the person to whom it's attached. If I don't find the person attractive (physically AND mentally AND emotionally) then it's a deal-breaker. I don't care how pretty your pussy is -- if you're mean spirited I won't care much for you.

To the person who made the "raw meat" comment ... technically, it is.

For the record, I wouldn't blame a guy for breaking up with a girl because her vulva looked like a penis and was a few inches long. :p

Yeah, I'd have to say that's a pretty reprehensible attitude. Thumbs DOWN in my book (to the women, not the men)! But then again, maybe she was doing all those guys a favor by "rejecting" them... who would want to date someone like that woman?

And vanblah makes an excellent point... all this time, we've been discussing inner/outer labia and the surrounding area, aka the pussy... the "vagina" is actually the "sheath" that leads into the uterus. And I would expect all of those to look the same, no? :)

While technically vanblah is correct, the vagina (AKA the birth canal or the passage leading from the opening of the vulva to the cervix of the uterus), is also used as a generalized term, meaning the entire female reproductive system as seen from the outside. I did watch the 'Vagina Monologues' and the vagina was repeatedly mentioned, not the vulvae. Just my 27 cents.....

Y'know...I've been sitting back, munching on my popcorn, and watching this thing bounce around for a couple of weeks now. I was going to keep my old yap shut, but here it is anyway.

(1.) You guys are overthinking this thing, waaaayyy too much. Pussy is pussy, my friends, and it's alll good. I never met one that disagreed with me.

(2.) Lose the "ape's nose" and "catcher's mit" comments. It's junior high mentality, and it all but guarantees that you'll never get another look again. And, y'know what? You shouldn't!

(3.) The easy access of internet pornography has jaded many of you. You expect that "vaginae" (I do love that) should all look like Jenna Jameson's. It just ain't so, my friends. All are as unique, and as special, as their owners. If you are lucky enough to have some young lady think highly enough of you to show you her "goodies", then for God's sake...lose the preconceived notions that all of those airbrushed pussies have taught you, since you first clicked on Persian Kitty when you were 12.

(4.) The great debate over hair vs no hair rages on. Oh well. As for me...I'll always go with hairy over bald. Every time. That is not to say that I want it crawling up her belly and down her legs. But pubic hair is a wonderfully marvelous thing. That is something else that many of you got from Persian Kitty. ;) So, if any of you gals are sick and tired of razor rash...come over to my camp. There are still many of us pussy hair lovers out here.

Now. Carry on with your silliness.

You seem to be reiterating the same comments that have already been made, but thanks for your 27 cents...... I agree with you, Its all good, and I do prefer some hair too, as previously stated.

My two cents:

We all came out of them.
Whether we remember that or not we remember it.

Can "we" speak of "them" as though "they" are other, or as though we don't all belong?

Of course, vaginas are attractive.

I, for one, have never forgotten Abaya's photo in Exhibition. In fact, it is the first thing I thought of when you said you liked to show yourself to your hubby that way!

I like both shaved and neatly trimmed pussy. I like it shaved for eating. Neatly trimmed looks quite sexy. But since I love licking the va-jj, I'll have to go with vulva shaved, mound neatly trimmed.

One might say, I am a fan of the Vagina, it truly is a work of art!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

As a woman, I find vaginas more attractive than penises. Usually. :)

I didn't come out of one. I came out the same way that the aliens did in the movie Alien. Well, they did sew up my Mom after it though.

Actually I have never touched one in my life. That is pretty sad.

But they are very attractive, and I have seen about 100 different ones at strip clubs and they all look good. :thumbsup:

Yes, very attractive.

Not particularly. There is nothing wrong so much in being a virgin or sexually inexperienced. Actually coming in contact with one will happen in due time.

Some, yes. Some, well honestly they scare me.

Mammals have hair. Quite rightly. And breasts. Thank (god)! And containers for their counterparts, if an extrusion can be considered no intrusion.

Oh yeah...vaginae are over-the-top attractive, vulvae notwithstanding.

I like this thread now, it serves no useful purpose whatsoever, kinda like a TFP appendix of sorts.

always a pleasure to look at.

I also find vaginas attractive, even the ones that have given birth.

I only have experienced one such vagina, and it tore through the rect..umm lets just say many many stitches. The scar was barely noticable so I would say it was still attractive.

vaginas rule the world.. my world anyways. i just wish ladies liked to look at penises as much as we like to see their pretty parts. if they did, there would be way more photo sharing going on. like most guys... i like showing (even a picture) of my C...k to women. most dont want to see it. let me tell ya.. you wont find a real man who would say "no I dont want to see a picture of your pussy" so ladies, prove me wrong and ask one of us guys if you may see it....

I think many women do find penises attractive, this thread was inspired by their comments in the ladies lounge....http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...ses+attractive

BTW, you can say cock & you can even post a pic of it, if thats your thing, when you become a full member.

Thanks I'm new and dont even know how to become a full member

Participate, participate, participate.

Just keep posting responsibly and you'll get there.

If we accept as true the notion that some vaginas are, for whatever reason, moe attractive than others, then does it not follow that there must be some that are, again for whatever reason, downright unattractive?

I think so. In fact, I know so, as I've seen many thousands of pictures of vaginas, and some of them (a very small portion, to be sure) were quite nasty.

Just to keep this back on track I must say that the vagina that I saw this weekend was spectacular. Beautiful for sure. *swoon*

I find some more attractive than others. Some I find stunning, others, take it or leave it; I attribute this to watching way to much porn. I prefer shaved, for appearance, and for eating. I understand that a hairless vagina can be costly and/or uncomfortable to achieve, however, I'm merely stating my preference, not my demand. There are occasionally times where I'm in the mood for some hair, for appearance, but not eating.

I have the same amazement that others have mentioned with how tremendously unique each vagina is.

By the time I see their vagina its going to happen anyways, so while there are some better looking than others, its far less important than the rest of them.

I've never said, nor will I ever, well I didn't think she was very attractive until I saw her vagina, man, she was hot.

Is this why we usually post pictures of our faces on sites like Match.com?

...

Vagina: Part of the package. Vaginas are like noses and ears and hands and the endlessly debated ass/boob combination... we all have our own preferences, rarely turn them down regardless of what they look like if they're interested, and very rarely is one part's appearance a deal breaker or a cock deflater or whatever.

I like finding vaginas in unexpected places.

... like sitting on my face.

Mmmmmm..........

No, seriously.

Like this:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13...3/likethis.jpg

Either direction works for me. lol

you rub it.....ta dum!

xoxoxoo

:lol:

Just be careful not to shift weight back onto the collarbone too hard (although a nice padded butt helps the situation,) those things are easy to break and I wouldn't want "oral sex mishap" listed as the cause of a bone fracture in my medical record.

hmmmm this is a good question. but i think it depends on what type of vagina. i mean...there are heaps of different shapes and sizes but i reckon the hottest ones are the hairless ones with no lips (common to blondes). anyone agree?

Oh, can of worms. Don't DO IT. Please read the thread.

I find pussies and cunts more attractive than vaginas.

"Hello, I'm Chris Hansen. Why don't you take a seat."

I think Leetrice is looking for Aryan vag.

Ya know, bred through eugenics to look like Hustler airbrush pieces.

Pieces that probably look and feel like Mr. Potatohead's backside.

LOL Good point.

Can't get enough of them. Haven't seen an ugly one yet.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...oman-ap203.jpg
Here. Let me fix that for you. :D

Is like Manny sez in Moon is harsh Mistress, "Are no homely women. Some prettier than others." Is like with Vaginas, nyet?

Still, I like a degree of symmetry, and I prefer little or no fur.

They are all so beautiful and different. I find myself drawn to them...