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Old 07-19-2007, 05:43 AM   #41 (permalink)
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So like a Japanese Geisha girl?

You know most high class escorts are in this vein. Cultured, well educated, sophisticated, refined.
Just to point out, geisha were typically *not* prostitutes. But I see where you're going with that. I think a better correlation would be the courtesan. Sex, sparkling educated conversation, arm candy, companionship, occasional gifts (to her), no strings...aye, that's the life.

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Old 07-19-2007, 06:38 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Oh and Sharon, I think it's a little bit harsh to call people who see prostitutes loosers. I agree with you that people will change over time and better their situation. But the way I see it, it is just one aspect of their life that currently isn't getting the time and attention it needs to be dealt with, and for some, seeing a pro will at least relieve some of the stress and tension. I think it's unfair to insinuate they are loosers just because they're paying for it.
I don't think of men who see prostitutes as losers at all. I was referring to earlier comments which seemed to suggest this.

I hear you on the other points about girls getting laid, but I still think it's easier for a girl to get laid than it is for a guy, on average. Pretty much any girl can go up to a guy in a bar who hasn't had it in a while, flash a bit of flesh and touch him, and he'll be up for it (so to speak). The guy would find it a lot harder to do if the situation were reversed.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:59 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Pretty much any girl can go up to a guy in a bar who hasn't had it in a while, flash a bit of flesh and touch him, and he'll be up for it (so to speak).
I agree completely. Girls don't have to have "game." All they need to get a one-night stand is a pulse and enough time for a lonely guy to see them. There's no way that the "ease of pickup-ability" is even close to even between men and women.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:51 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I certainly think prostitution should be legal (not streetwalking but in an organized, licensed place of business), but I would never personally obtain their services. Sex is not worth money to me. If I'm going to have sex I want it to be with someone who actually wants to have sex with me, if I just want sexual pleasure I'll masturbate, and if I want to waste money on pleasure in general there are other and better things to waste money on. It took me a fair bit of time to lose my virginity but I'm glad I waited; I too think it's a bit sad to be so desperate you lose it to a prostitute. I'd be very surprised if any of them actually feel good about that decision after having done it.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:53 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't think of men who see prostitutes as losers at all. I was referring to earlier comments which seemed to suggest this.

I hear you on the other points about girls getting laid, but I still think it's easier for a girl to get laid than it is for a guy, on average. Pretty much any girl can go up to a guy in a bar who hasn't had it in a while, flash a bit of flesh and touch him, and he'll be up for it (so to speak). The guy would find it a lot harder to do if the situation were reversed.
Hehehe, no worries, I wasn't trying to sound aggressive

I dunno though, it think if you go to a club and throw alcohol into the mix it's really any ones game.

Like, I've been hit on by girls at clubs while sober and they've been trashed, and I've either turned them down on the grounds that they're exceedingly drunk or just, and I'm not trying to be a bastard, really not physically appealing. Though having said that, I've turned down girls while I've been extremely drunk, mainly because I couldn't barely stand up, let alone be able to have sex. But the thing about me is that whole scene just really isn't for me, and one night stands aren't my game.

Having thought on it more though, ok, I'll agree, woman potentially can have an easier go at getting a lay for the night, but I'd put this down to guys, in general, being a bit more opportunistic about sex than women are. But I'm happy to be refuted on that.

I guess the thing is, even if a particularly unattractive guy or girl carries them selves with confidence, and believes they're walking sex, then they'll have no problems getting someone into bed. Unfortunately people can smell low self esteem from a mile off and it's an instant turn off.

But a pro ain't going to be caring about that
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:20 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:41 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Personally I think prostitution (brothels) should be legal, when I went to visit family in Australia, I found out that they are regulated by the state,checked monthly for all STD's as well as how the are feeling about what they are doing
As for visiting one with the history of my life to that point at 21 I felt I "needed" to, since my past might have changed? me.
She knew it was my first time, and took time to calm me down and get into the mood, actually making it the best experience I have ever had.
Yes I know that she was probably faking her reaction (though she continued for a couple of minutes after) and that her words where false flattery but for that amount of time and a little bit afterward I felt like everything was good.

At 36 I would love to go out on a date but my history has burdened me with anxieties,panic attacks, ptsd and other stuff which makes it extremely hard to think of going to bars, or other crowded places though I don't drink,smoke or do drugs, It's also in my mind that i could never say any right words other than "hello"
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:48 AM   #48 (permalink)
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In my opinion, prostitution has no ill effect on society and should be a freedom of choice issue. While I myself may not wish to partake in the services provided that should have no bearing whatsoever on anyone else who might.
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Old 07-21-2007, 08:24 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Why not?

[QUOTE=ASU2003]'I'm not a fan of one night stands or one hour sex sessions. So, it's not for me.

It doesn't matter if it costs money or it is free, I would want to be with someone that wants to be with me'.

Is this not the heart of the whole issue? What most of us want in life is an intimate connections. This is unlikely to happen whilst visiting a prostitute. Unless of course you are Richard Gere and Julia Roberts.
I have been interviewing people about the myriad ways that we lose our virginity for some time now - I write about it on my blog:

www.virginityproject.typepad.com

Bizzarely, as a result of this, I now correspond with quite a large swathe of invisible society - people who have never lost their virginity, and most of them are men. For these people, if they pick carefully, I really think that a visit to a prostitute could be a step in the right direction.

By the by, I have been trying to interview a man who lost his virginity to a prostitute for over a year now, no joy! I am highly unjudgemental. If you know anyone who would be prepared to do this - absolute anonymity guarenteeed, point them in my direction! Towards London hopefully as this is where I am based.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:04 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Actually, plenty of successful and attractive men, men in power solicit prostitutes. It is very short-sided to see men as "poor lonely souls who can't get any" or as "losers" as the only patrons of prostitutes. These guys do have the skills to "get women", but choose to solicit prostitutes.
Yeah, that jives.

That reminds me that it is a almost a cliche for a businessman on a business trip to meet a call girl from the hotel bar. Well, at least in the movies. I also recall Hugh Grant was caught getting a blowjob from a street hooker Divine, while being married to Elizabeth Hurley.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:44 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Hey Sultana, need a benefactor?

I'm curious as to why no one in this thread has mentioned the other side of the coin? Are giggilos so uncommon that they're not considered prostitution?

I've never used a prostitute, but I have had REALLY bad sex. Considering that, if I were presented with the right opportunity to sleep with an attractive woman that was a professional I might do it just for the experience rather than the sex.

I'm with the rest of you, I think it should be legal simply because it eliminates so many of the problems of trying to curtail it for being immoral. I echo the sentiment that if it's the prostitutes choice and they benefit from it then it's not my place to judge and so be it.

For the rest of the opinions, do you hold the same stance for women that would partake of a prostitute as you do men?
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:44 AM   #52 (permalink)
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If it was that easy... I would have gotten laid this year.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:46 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Cromp,

I'm certainly not talking myself up man. I will admit to you right now, I ain't a prize catch an my history with women is bloody awful.

But, in the alcohol fueled meat market known as the night club, or depending how desperate you are, the local RSL, you can find a desperate woman after a fuck. It is really a question on how far you want to lower your standards, or just how much alcohol your body can tolerate until they're attractive
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:13 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I kind of see what abaya and the other posters have said about not being able to be with someone who had been with a prostitute, because they are "losers".
I'm curious: What about the flip side of the equation? Would any of the men here be willing to date a woman who had worked as a prostitute?
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Old 08-19-2007, 05:04 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Prostitution is already legal. Its called marriage, and secondarily, dating
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:51 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm curious: What about the flip side of the equation? Would any of the men here be willing to date a woman who had worked as a prostitute?
I wish I had more time to post a better and more thoughtful reply than this but in a word. Yes I have dated a woman who worked as an "escort". She was up front about her past which at first was a little bizzare for me to try and comprehend. She had very high standards for her clients and her "gift" rate was very high @ $1000.00 for two hours minimum. She spoke at length about being taken on trips and being given gifts beyond what I could possibly imagine giving to someone I barely knew and knew only for that reason.

She had demonstrated on a couple of occasions that she had accumulated a bit of personal wealth as a result of her work. She at the ripe young age of 38 owned a large house on four acres of land. She owned three horses that her 16 year old daughter was using to learn to ride as an equestrian. She had claimed to have made upwards of $170,000 (all cash) in the year prior to our brief dating experience. Ultimately she went back to the business and I've since lost touch with her.

Outwardly she is a quite well adjusted person. Inwardly...I could never get close to her. She was very detatched about her past and had this idea that if she or I were to be in a realtionship that it would have to be on the basis that she could "go back to work" if she decided she ever wanted to do that. She also felt that she should be able to sleep with anyone if she felt the need and that it should be okay as long as she told me about it in advance. Of course that would have been okay for me as well. I couldn't agree to that so the brief relationship ended.

Her website is available for viewing but I won't post that here. PM me if you are interested in seeing it. There is a whole different world out there and seemingly the most normal among us will lead vastly different lives from our own. That was definitely the case for Lee.

She's quite beautiful but I couldn't date someone who is active in that business. As for the past... everyone has one. Some parts of it are better left there than brought back to the present.

God Bless ya Lee ... stay safe!
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:36 PM   #57 (permalink)
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hmm..... just saw this thread..

My best friend moved with "boyfriend X" to vegas, where she quickly found him tobe... mmm... not of her liking anymore. she left him and bunked in with a friend she had met, who turned out to be a "high class call girl". The money was a serious motivator for my friend, combined with the timeframe, and shes quite good looking, so she got into it.
It was her call to get into it, although circumstances gave her a little push, she could always have come back to chicago. (I'd have paid for her ticket home without blinking) She didnt, she is happy, she makes more money in working 2-3 days a week than I do in a month, shes discreet, careful, and laughs all the way to the bank. Her clients are all wealthy, business men, upper crust guys, that both do and dont have wives/women at home. not a looser in the bunch. She performs a service/services that they need/want and can afford to pay to have without entangling themselves in a relationship or by having the upkeep and aggravation of having a mistress.

would I pay to be with a person of her profession. no. I've never felt so inclined. would I if i DID "feel the need" for some kind of release? probably not, I'm a tightfisted bitch when it comes to money. If I didnt have to worry about the money? still no. I'm paranoid to a fault and scared to death of disease, no matter how careful someone seems. Do I see anything wrong with it? (someone using prostitutes) - Hell no. I'm all for its legalization, taxation and regulation (and was before my friend got involved) just as I am for pot (and dont use it either).

When you have things like prostitution and pot that have been legalized in other countries with great success, and you are living in a country that has massive national debt and they want to start taxing BOTTLED WATER.. why the hell don't they legalize gambling, prostitution and pot - which is all going on/being used daily ANYWAY and shows no sign of decline. institue laws over it (ie age limitations for purchase and usage), tax it (like they do our still legal vices, alchahol and tobacco) and utilize the taxes for education about it, healthcare issues arising because of it, and still have the remainder available to plow back into the "land of opportunity" that is rapidly becoming a decaying cesspool of misery and disrepair.

Sorry to those of you with moral confines that dictate your opposition on the matter.

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Old 08-19-2007, 07:36 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I wish I had more time to post a better and more thoughtful reply than this but in a word. Yes I have dated a woman who worked as an "escort". She was up front about her past which at first was a little bizzare for me to try and comprehend. She had very high standards for her clients and her "gift" rate was very high @ $1000.00 for two hours minimum. She spoke at length about being taken on trips and being given gifts beyond what I could possibly imagine giving to someone I barely knew and knew only for that reason.

She had demonstrated on a couple of occasions that she had accumulated a bit of personal wealth as a result of her work. She at the ripe young age of 38 owned a large house on four acres of land. She owned three horses that her 16 year old daughter was using to learn to ride as an equestrian. She had claimed to have made upwards of $170,000 (all cash) in the year prior to our brief dating experience. Ultimately she went back to the business and I've since lost touch with her.

Outwardly she is a quite well adjusted person. Inwardly...I could never get close to her. She was very detatched about her past and had this idea that if she or I were to be in a realtionship that it would have to be on the basis that she could "go back to work" if she decided she ever wanted to do that. She also felt that she should be able to sleep with anyone if she felt the need and that it should be okay as long as she told me about it in advance. Of course that would have been okay for me as well. I couldn't agree to that so the brief relationship ended.

Her website is available for viewing but I won't post that here. PM me if you are interested in seeing it. There is a whole different world out there and seemingly the most normal among us will lead vastly different lives from our own. That was definitely the case for Lee.

She's quite beautiful but I couldn't date someone who is active in that business. As for the past... everyone has one. Some parts of it are better left there than brought back to the present.

God Bless ya Lee ... stay safe!
Interesting story. She'd better hope that the taxman doesn't pay her a visit. (Assuming that she didn't pay any tax on that 170 in cash).

The money is huge for some escorts. They can make more than most doctors and lawyers even. Interesting thought that a woman's most valuable asset is her body. If you're a beautiful woman, you can make far more selling your body than pretty much anything else.

I would be able to date a former escort. I don't think it would be possible to have a serious relationship with an escort who was still working however. I guess it depends on the nature of the relationship. For me, she'd have to retire and yeah, I'd be ok with her past. Just hope that she didn't have too many demons as a result of her career as an escort.

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Old 08-20-2007, 04:46 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Of course, that was a long time ago. Before my first marriage even. But I'm not gonna turn all hypocritical now.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:09 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I'm curious: What about the flip side of the equation? Would any of the men here be willing to date a woman who had worked as a prostitute?
No way. I have enough trouble getting my head around her past relationships...I doubt I could accept a girl with that past.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I'd have no problem with it, otherwise it seems you look at them as living sex toys.
Even if she had problems with her past, as long as she was ready to seek help fine.
If she was using drugs to help her deal with it, it would really have to depend on the situation, what type,how long enough to get "strung out" on?
Relatively clean drug wise and clean health wise fine, just nothing with needles and willing to get help
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:07 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I've looked into getting a hooker, and came across a site called Trooth Sayer. Google it.

Before finding that site though, let's just say that I would have been happier buying a Wii
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:21 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Although I have never engaged a prostitute, I might like to experience the "professional touch" with a woman who is expert in pleasing men.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:21 AM   #64 (permalink)
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its not legal in my area, but there has been times when it would of bin cheaper to pay for it then chase it, in the end its up to the people involved, man or woman, ive have dated a few people in the past that i would of payed to get out of my life and move on, thanks
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:20 AM   #65 (permalink)
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like many others have said before, as long as there are 2 consenting adults, it's all good. I would never go to one myself, but sometimes I think that getting into the sex industry aka prostitution, call girl, stripper etc. could be the only way I would be able to earn a decent living as a student.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:36 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Prostitution is already legal. Its called marriage, and secondarily, dating
I wouldn't call dating prostitution, since you don't always get what you pay for
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:32 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Of course, that was a long time ago. Before my first marriage even. But I'm not gonna turn all hypocritical now.
yep, this pretty much sums me up too.

I'm amazed at the amount of people citing health issues as a reason not to be involved with a prostitute. In Oz (at least) brothels are regulated, the ladies have regular health checks and condom use is mandatory. I'd think you would have more chance picking up a disease from a one night stand.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:08 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I've never been tempted....well, the prostitutes in the red-light district in Amsterdam are AMAZING looking. But i'm married, etc.
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:55 AM   #69 (permalink)
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As for the question of whether is it easier for girls to get laid than guys....

A friend of ours recently got divorced. She could stand to lose 40 pounds or so, wears thick glasses and her face is average at best. She would not make a girlfriend who would impress the guys at the frat party.

On a Friday evening a month or so ago she was out and she pulled into a bar parking lot, rolled down the window and said to guy standing nearby "Look dude, I need to get laid and I don't want to deal with the bar scene right now. Will you come with me?" Needless to say, he took the offer.

When I was single, new pussy did almost literally fall into my lap on a couple of occasions, but only when I was lucky enough to be in exectly the right place at the right time (like the guy in the story above). How many guys can reliably go out and get laid that easily, other than with a prostitute?
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