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McDuffie 11-22-2006 06:43 PM

How many first cousins have you laid?
 
This was a poll at another forum. I thought I would try it out here, and see what sort of results/reaction it got to compare the two.

Thanks.

I have never done it with any of my cousins, although I had an incident during my teenage years with a cousin that easily could have led to a "situation". She was working very hard to convince me that it was "ok".

roxxor 11-22-2006 09:24 PM

do you happen to live in Alabama?

Dilbert1234567 11-22-2006 09:35 PM

um... yeah, i'm going to go with 0...

MiSo 11-22-2006 09:36 PM

um.. none.


that's sick.

Irishsean 11-23-2006 05:38 AM

Wierd... I'm gonna go with 0...

Shauk 11-23-2006 06:14 AM

well, i'm sure the girls i've been with were a cousin to someone else, does that count?

zed wolf 11-23-2006 06:32 AM

well, as far as I know there havent been any yet. Although you only asked about cousins, not sisters.
That last bit was a joke of course. My non-standard sexual interests lie in other directions.

Kazic 11-23-2006 08:39 AM

I have yet to see anyone admit this without having some sort of uncanny banjo playing prowess! I am interested to see who answers "yes" let alone possibly more than just one first cousin. For interest sake, which forum did you see this posted in?

McDuffie 11-23-2006 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roxxor
do you happen to live in Alabama?

No.

We were teenagers, drunk at the time. She was horny and I was devilishly handsome.

I extricated myself from her clutches and went home.

It happened in 1985 or so and the next time I saw her was when my aunt died in 2001 and she acted like she had never laid eyes on me before.

But since you mentioned certain states, I do know of a first cousin/first cousin marriage.

My grandmother's second husband's niece and nephew, who are first cousins of one another, got married. They were married to other people who both died around the same time, and I guess they started consoling each other just a little bit too much.

And no, they weren't from Alabama either, they were Yankees, although they did have to get married in another state that allowed first cousin marriage.

To my mind, I don't pass judgment on people until they start harming other people. If cousins want to have sex, that's their business. I am not into that.

But, I posted this poll here to see how it played out on a forum dedicated to "progressive sexuality" (among other things). The forum this was originally posted on was a religion forum, and it got a lot of play AND a lot of responses other than '0'.

Of 148 respondents, 6 people said they slept with one cousin; 2 people said they slept with four or more and 1 person said he (or she) slept with two cousins.

And this is a religious forum I am talking about. That's why I wanted to post this here. To compare the results from a specifically religious forum to a clearly secular one.

ngdawg 11-23-2006 09:25 AM

I actually had close friends who were first cousins and living together. When they moved away about 14 years ago, they'd been together over 12 years. Both had been married twice before, they had no intention of having kids nor getting married. When she 'had something to confess' to me, my reaction could not have been more nonchalant and actually surprised her at its casualness. Even my 'Archie Bunker' spouse couldn't have cared less. They're adults. They were happy.
First cousins share one set or less of grandparents. In the orthodox or hasidim jewish communities, first cousins marrying is not an uncommon event and it very well may be that way in other religious or racial societies.
While brother-sister, father-daughter, mother-son is a total ICK factor, cousins, to me, isn't. Coming in from the spouse's side, not one cousin is blood related to another; only two boys were born into the family through blood; two boys are adopted and my kids are from an anonymous sperm donor. Weird, huh?

Daniel_ 11-23-2006 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg
I actually had close friends who were first cousins and living together. When they moved away about 14 years ago, they'd been together over 12 years. Both had been married twice before, they had no intention of having kids nor getting married. When she 'had something to confess' to me, my reaction could not have been more nonchalant and actually surprised her at its casualness. Even my 'Archie Bunker' spouse couldn't have cared less. They're adults. They were happy.
First cousins share one set or less of grandparents. In the orthodox or hasidim jewish communities, first cousins marrying is not an uncommon event and it very well may be that way in other religious or racial societies.
While brother-sister, father-daughter, mother-son is a total ICK factor, cousins, to me, isn't. Coming in from the spouse's side, not one cousin is blood related to another; only two boys were born into the family through blood; two boys are adopted and my kids are from an anonymous sperm donor. Weird, huh?

Glad to see you think Sister on Sister action is OK. :thumbsup:

:lol:

Personally, I have no cousins as both of my parents are the only children of their generation to re-produce (my fathre has no siblings, and my matrnal aunt has not children).

I have no problem with cousins together though.

snowy 11-23-2006 12:48 PM

I've never even thought about this sort of thing with any of my first cousins; they were always like my brothers.

That said, I do come from a family with its share of double cousins a couple of generations back.

feelgood 11-23-2006 12:59 PM

I haven't buried any first cousins to date yet.

Oh! Get laid with them...I see, well then no.

Edit: I'm kind of curious as to who actually voted for 1 and 4 or more. Comon, don't be shy...

Moskie 11-23-2006 01:44 PM

why does this have to be posted the day before thanksgiving? i'm spending it with a bunch of my cousins!

goddammit, now all day i'm gonna have to be saying to myself "don't fuck your cousin, don't fuck your cousin, don't fuck your cousin...." :eek:

ShaniFaye 11-23-2006 03:24 PM

I slept with one of my first cousins when I was 18. We were dope heads together after I moved from Ga to "get away" from potential trouble here. He was my age. We used to hang out at the bottom of a quarry by the water all nite long and get high, and it happened, cant say I regret it either. It was a one night thing, and we still hang out now when I go visit the family, its never been mentioned by either of us since.

james t kirk 11-23-2006 03:55 PM

Never banged any cousins no.

When I was a teenager I had a bit of a crush on my one incredibly beautiful cousin, but I was 13 and she was 19 and very very hot.

The feelings have long since subsided.

Crack 11-23-2006 04:58 PM

Cousins I have had sex with: 0
Cousins I wished wern't my cousin so I could: 3

DON'T JUDGE ME! :p

Willravel 11-23-2006 05:01 PM

Dude, wtf. Maybe we should make a "How many pets have you laid?" thread.

yournamehere 11-23-2006 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crack
Cousins I have had sex with: 0
Cousins I wished weren't my cousin so I could: 3

I was going to say pretty much the same thing.

The taboo about sex with cousins is only because of the limited gene pool
If procreation is not on the agenda, what's the fuss?


When we were kids, my cousins and I used to play "you show me yours; I'll show you mine." Not exactly the same as having sex, but . . . .

In any case, I've always had the hots for one of my cousins - even now that we're middle-aged. I saw her a couple years ago, and she was the best looking 43-year old I've seen in a long time!

I suppose I should mention that when it comes to anything sexual, I've always allowed the head without the ears do the thinking. :lol:

ratbastid 11-23-2006 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yournamehere
When we were kids, my cousins and I used to play "you show me yours; I'll show you mine." Not exactly the same as having sex, but . . . .

Yeaaaaah... I played that game with three of my cousins.

And the girl across the street.

Willravel 11-23-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yournamehere
The taboo about sex with cousins is only because of the limited gene pool
If procreation is not on the agenda, what's the fuss?

I, personally, think the taboo goes far beyond procreation. This is a close family member. This is like a half brother or sister. The cultural taboo that I have always understood is that there are very different rules when it comes to family (outside of obvious biological reasons). Dating a sibling, uncle/aunt, cousin, child, or parent is quite unacceptable (and quite disgusting). Mind you I don't think this is me being prudish. I have no problem with two men having relations. I have no problem with people of much different ages having relations. I have no problem with S&M or other kinky type stuff. This is different.

As stated before: I see this as being similar to dating a half sibling (one parent shared). It's wrong.

Zeraph 11-23-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Dude, wtf. Maybe we should make a "How many pets have you laid?" thread.

That's exceptionally narrow minded of you. I'm really surprised to hear that coming from you.

Let's see, Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin (who had many healthy children) both married their first cousins. Franklin D. Roosevelt married a cousin. Many cultures have had married cousins long before America's narrow mindedness came to be.

Genetically there is very little extra risk associated with having children. Nor (in most cases) does the sibling or same roof taboo/principle apply here either unless you lived with your cousins. I don't know about you guys, but I see my cousins an average of maybe 8 days a year.

Quick website I just found through google, seems to be decent:
http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=facts

To the OP: I havn't had sex with any cousins, though I wouldn't turn her down if she offered as she is quite hot.

McDuffie 11-23-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Dude, wtf. Maybe we should make a "How many pets have you laid?" thread.

Go ahead. I'll vote '0' in that one, just like I did in this one.

I already explained wtf, "dude". I gave very clear reasons why I posted this poll. You don't have to participate in this thread, or anything on the entire world wide web, if you don't want to.

EDIT: What I find absolutely remarkable is that the results of this poll, in this clearly secular forum are virtually identical to the results in the religious forum.

This forum thus far, with 69 votes 92.75% answered in the negative; 7.25% answered in the affirmative.

The religious forum thus far, with 160 votes 93.75% answered in the negative; 6.25% in the affirmative.

Statistically speaking, these are identical results. That is a remarkable result that I did not expect. I don't know what I did expect, but I did not expect identical results.

Crack 11-23-2006 07:52 PM

well, it's not like you asked "do you believe in god" you might a bit more of a mixed result there, but in the culture we live in, having sex with a cousin is something that is seen as a bit "gross". I wouldn't judge someone one way or the other, but really, that's like asking who likes cold drinks on a hot day, there will always be those odd balls that say "Hell no!" it's just a social norm in any culture in the western world.

LoganSnake 11-23-2006 09:10 PM

None. But has anyone seen The Godfather III? There's some cousin on cousin action going on there.

Bossnass 11-23-2006 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
I, personally, think the taboo goes far beyond procreation. This is a close family member. This is like a half brother or sister. The cultural taboo that I have always understood is that there are very different rules when it comes to family (outside of obvious biological reasons). Dating a sibling, uncle/aunt, cousin, child, or parent is quite unacceptable (and quite disgusting). Mind you I don't think this is me being prudish. I have no problem with two men having relations. I have no problem with people of much different ages having relations. I have no problem with S&M or other kinky type stuff. This is different.

As stated before: I see this as being similar to dating a half sibling (one parent shared). It's wrong.

My mom had a falling about with my grandparents about 15 years ago. I have first cousins that I haven't seen since before then, and only saw them probably 6 times prior. I'm pretty certain that my upbringing was very little like theirs; I imagine that other than sharing grandparents I would have little in common with them.

Hypothetically, if I met one of them now and was in a position to date/have sex with them, would it be wrong?

(No cousin sex for me. Although I learned at my wedding that I had hooked up with one of my wife's cousins from another province.)

ShaniFaye 11-24-2006 06:20 AM

Thru the ages, in other countries cousins have married (and procreated with) cousins thru the centuries, specially "royal" families. America has laws in 24 states against it but there are none in Europe, the Middle East, Asia or Africa and its even preferred and lots of arranged marriages in Islamic countries are between first cousins.

Would I do it again? Nope, but Im not going to be ashamed or disgusted that I hit it as a teenager. My cousins are not viewed as "half siblings" I saw them maybe once or twice a year the entire time I was growing up. What I find interesting is that while others voted "yes" in the poll, Im the only one thats openly admitted to do have done it

little_tippler 11-24-2006 06:35 AM

In Portugal it's legal to marry your first cousin and I know a few couples who are first cousins and married. I don't think it's a big deal but that's a cultural thing.

I don't agree with sibling with sibling though, that's not legal here. The familial proximity is too close, genetically speaking. That's the only reason I can see to condemn it.

Sometimes you can't help who you like - I don't see any reason to get on a high-horse and preach to people about it.

I have never wanted to "lay" any of my cousins, because I personally get the "ick" factor going just thinking about it in any remote way. But that's me.

Deltona Couple 11-24-2006 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zed wolf
well, as far as I know there havent been any yet. Although you only asked about cousins, not sisters.
That last bit was a joke of course. My non-standard sexual interests lie in other directions.

By "other directions" I hope you don't mean brothers instead of sisters....hahaha

Also...as someone stated before :
Quote:

First cousins share one set or less of grandparents.
That information is incorrect. FIRST cousins are identifed as having one of their parents the sbbling of one of their other parents. For example, my FIRST cousin is the daughter of my Dad's sister. The example YOU gave would be called SECOND cousins, and in almost every state, SECOND cousins are allowed to marry.

ShaniFaye 11-24-2006 07:19 AM

I hate to argue here but deltona you and your first cousin do share grandparents, (assuming we are talking blood relations) your dad and sister have the same parents, which makes your grandparents and your first cousins grandparents the same ones. Second cousins share the same GREAT grandparents.

Definitions of cousins

Your first cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. In other words, they are the children of your aunts and uncles.

Your second cousins are the people in your family who have the same great-grandparents as you., but not the same grandparents.

Your third cousins have the same great-great-grandparents, fourth cousins have the same great-great-great-grandparents, and so on



When the word "removed" is used to describe a relationship, it indicates that the two people are from different generations. You and your first cousins are in the same generation (two generations younger than your grandparents), so the word "removed" is not used to describe your relationship.

The words "once removed" mean that there is a difference of one generation. For example, your mother's first cousin is your first cousin, once removed. This is because your mother's first cousin is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. This one-generation difference equals "once removed."

Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. You are two generations younger than a first cousin of your grandmother, so you and your grandmother's first cousin are first cousins, twice removed.

Willravel 11-24-2006 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossnass
Hypothetically, if I met one of them now and was in a position to date/have sex with them, would it be wrong?

Are you asking my opinion or the general rule? I'd ask: why? There are a ton of fish in the sea, and only a few are your cousins.

Jove 11-24-2006 11:01 AM

I have a cousin who married her third cousin, but then again, they both fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down resulting in having five kids who are just as ugly as they are.

Anyway, I see no correlation between the ugly factor and being cousins, I just thought I would add that in.

Zeraph 11-24-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Are you asking my opinion or the general rule? I'd ask: why? There are a ton of fish in the sea, and only a few are your cousins.

That's faulty logic. Are you saying you could have married a ton of other women instead of your wife?

Willravel 11-24-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeraph
That's faulty logic. Are you saying you could have married a ton of other women instead of your wife?

My wife isn't my cousin.

Zeraph 11-24-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
My wife isn't my cousin.

And what if she was? What if you suddenly found out you were adopted (or whatever) and she turned out to be your cousin? Would you let a mental mind set brought on by a small portion of ignorant society destroy the love you have for your wife?

McDuffie 11-24-2006 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
I, personally, think the taboo goes far beyond procreation. This is a close family member. This is like a half brother or sister.

I have to make a correction here.

This isn't at all like a half sibling. Half siblings share 25% of their DNA and one parent.

First cousins share 12.5% of their DNA and no parents.

I still won't be having sex with any of my cousins, but the point is that erroneous information is erroneous information and it should not be used to support your case.

World's King 11-24-2006 01:19 PM

None. But I did fuck my best friend's first cousin. She just moved to Colorado and didn't have friends, needed a date to homecoming. I was free. Nice girl. My friend won't let it go though. Any chance he gets to give me shit... And I just smile.

Toaster126 11-24-2006 01:54 PM

This reminds me of my favorite thread on the TFP... the one Smeth started (I think) about the Ick factor. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Dude, wtf. Maybe we should make a "How many pets have you laid?" thread.

Did you make the argument the religious right makes against gay marriage on purpose or was that just really awesome? :)

beavstrokinoff 11-24-2006 01:58 PM

I'll go with one.

Deltona Couple 11-24-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
I hate to argue here but deltona you and your first cousin do share grandparents, (assuming we are talking blood relations) your dad and sister have the same parents, which makes your grandparents and your first cousins grandparents the same ones. Second cousins share the same GREAT grandparents.

Definitions of cousins

Your first cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. In other words, they are the children of your aunts and uncles.

Your second cousins are the people in your family who have the same great-grandparents as you., but not the same grandparents.

Your third cousins have the same great-great-grandparents, fourth cousins have the same great-great-great-grandparents, and so on



When the word "removed" is used to describe a relationship, it indicates that the two people are from different generations. You and your first cousins are in the same generation (two generations younger than your grandparents), so the word "removed" is not used to describe your relationship.

The words "once removed" mean that there is a difference of one generation. For example, your mother's first cousin is your first cousin, once removed. This is because your mother's first cousin is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. This one-generation difference equals "once removed."

Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. You are two generations younger than a first cousin of your grandmother, so you and your grandmother's first cousin are first cousins, twice removed.

OK, just to make my point, and if I am wrong, then I am wrong. Here is where I got my information.
cousin chart

According to this source, first cousins are childrem of two siblings...
i.e. a brother and a sister both have children, their children are first cousins of each other.


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