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VirFighter 06-21-2006 12:02 PM

where is all the good porn?
 
(If this is the wrong forum for this, I apologize, please close this one and let me know where I need to post)

I have been having a hard time finding some type of pornography that I can watch with my girlfriend.

I'm pretty easy to please for the most part. She has trouble with cheesy dialog, ridiculously ugly males vs. attractive females, and just the general stupidness of bad porn. She'll start laughing and therefore I can no longer get into it either.

She needs something believable most importantly. I think she would really enjoy something very amateurish and homemade. She likes real people and she'd like to actually believe that the two people care for one another. Does this type of porn exist?

Anyone have any suggestions on good things for couples to watch?

Redlemon 06-21-2006 12:18 PM

Comstock Films: Real People, Real Life, Real Sex is supposed to be incredible. The previews certainly show enough to tell you if it's what you'd want or not. I haven't seen them personally.

Also, the name of the company is brilliant - I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to find out why. :D

ratbastid 06-21-2006 02:38 PM

Seconded on Comstock Films--I've never actually seen one, but I've met Tony Comstock by way of some clients I've recently acquired in the adult industry. He's a super good guy, and I like the way he thinks with regard to sexual and gender politics.

Also films made by Private, a Spanish company, are generally quite high quality in terms of production values and performer attractiveness. Lots of exotic locations, natural boobs and shot-on-film goodness. Only thing is, the ones in English are either dubbed, or the actors have a remarkable array of European accents. The acting is varied and the plots are silly, but... that's what the fast-forward button is for.

thesupermikey 06-21-2006 02:43 PM

abbywinters.com

porn made by women.
always a winner

ratbastid 06-21-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesupermikey
abbywinters.com

porn made by women.
always a winner

Yeah, that's hot, but it's limited to solo-girl and girl-girl. That may not entirely do everybody's trick. And there's plenty of women-made porn out there that does exactly the same stuff male-made porn does.

ASU2003 06-21-2006 04:01 PM

http://xxxtremeforums.com/creampie_l...2-09/252.shtml
(NSFW, obviously)

I'm not sure if this would work, but it kind of looks amateur-ish. But, it is shot from the male point of view. The woman isn't a perfect model, but has DDs. If she has problems with large breasts, this wouldn't be the right movie.

I also think that there are a lot of bad porn videos out there. And I like the high quality home made ones to the porn star ones.

CaliLivChick 06-21-2006 04:31 PM

What my bf and I did was get a movie rental membership at a porn shop, and he let me pick out what I wanted to see, and he'd help me narrow down the choices. What she prefers and what you prefer may also be different... and when you're renting, you don't have to worry about spending a bunch of money on something you're not sure if you'll like. Pick out a few different movies at a time, each one a different style/film maker, and figure out what you guys like... it's very subjective, at least in my experience. =)

Martel 06-21-2006 07:25 PM

I dunno about you guys, but when Sage and I are in the mood to watch porn, we generally aren't looking for stuff with plot, just stuff with sex. That being said, we wouldn't pop in an all-sex porn before we've even taken our clothes off. I guess for us, porn is more useful in the background, so that you can hear it and occasionally see bits of it, but not so much for sitting on the couch and watching.

Personally part of the appeal of having porn on while we have sex is that its like being around other people having sex without actually having to be around other people having sex... just the room filling up with sex noises from us and the porn and being able to see us having sex along with other people having sex makes it feel like being in the middle of a big juicy romp with lots of people in the middle of a Roman bath house or something. But then I guess that sort of thing turns me on. :D

In short... how many porns have you seen that have a plot you wouldn't just laugh at or dismiss as dumb? If having a dumb plot is the problem then I'd say you need to get some porn that doesn't bother with plot at all.

As far as where to get good porn goes, feel free to PM me if you need a good torrent site or two.

Toaster126 06-22-2006 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid
Yeah, that's hot, but it's limited to solo-girl and girl-girl. That may not entirely do everybody's trick. And there's plenty of women-made porn out there that does exactly the same stuff male-made porn does.

Yeah... it bugs me when people spout off with the "it's made by women" shit like that somehow magically makes porn "better".

tisonlyi 07-02-2006 12:21 PM

Also bear in mind that women say they like and what actually makes them hot under the collar can be wildly different. I've read a few items on this and watched a documentary last year. The women were all hooked up to pulse, blood pressure and "other" monitors and shown the kind of porn women _report_ that they prefer (VERY broad generalisation) and a little later they were shown the porn that men say they prefer.

Obviously, differences in the relative 'hardness' of the porn and plotlines etc, etc are easy to draw. Ladies, please dont shout at me.

Anyway, as the premise marks out, all the women reported to prefer the more romantic and softer porn, though they were not particularly aroused by it - some women were actually completely unmoved by it though they claimed to have really enjoyed it. The real, marked physical reaction was noted on a pretty low grade, seedy representation of an older man taking a young girl in a barn or some such. Very graphic, very explicit, all possible penetration penetrated.

Thousands of years of inbred denial of their sexual selves has left its mark...

I have no idea what this will do to contribute, but it just seems relevant to me.

james t kirk 07-02-2006 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisonlyi
Also bear in mind that women say they like and what actually makes them hot under the collar can be wildly different. I've read a few items on this and watched a documentary last year. The women were all hooked up to pulse, blood pressure and "other" monitors and shown the kind of porn women _report_ that they prefer (VERY broad generalisation) and a little later they were shown the porn that men say they prefer.

Obviously, differences in the relative 'hardness' of the porn and plotlines etc, etc are easy to draw. Ladies, please dont shout at me.

Anyway, as the premise marks out, all the women reported to prefer the more romantic and softer porn, though they were not particularly aroused by it - some women were actually completely unmoved by it though they claimed to have really enjoyed it. The real, marked physical reaction was noted on a pretty low grade, seedy representation of an older man taking a young girl in a barn or some such. Very graphic, very explicit, all possible penetration penetrated.

Thousands of years of inbred denial of their sexual selves has left its mark...

I have no idea what this will do to contribute, but it just seems relevant to me.

Interesting, women are so coy even when they don't have to be.

I remember reading about a women's studies class that did a unit on women being exploited by porn. Part of the unit involved showing the women some of the most explicit porn around. It was interesting because two of the women later said that watching the vile porn actually turned them on. They didn't admit it at the time and they gave the requisit looks of disgust on que, however, some admitted that the more humiliating the porn, the more they were turned on.

VirFighter 07-02-2006 09:43 PM

So I checked out Comstock Film's "Marie and Jack: A Hardcore Love Story" and I was fairly impressed. My gf and I both enjoyed it and it definitely aroused us both.

We also enjoyed the commentary, but wish that it had not interrupted the action. It took us out of the moment and made it feel more like a documentary in a lot of ways.

I highly recommend watching it though, regardless of the one flaw I spoke of.

Irishsean 08-20-2006 08:40 PM

I recommend anything by Andrew Blake. Movies are very tastefull, all of the girls I know on that type of basis really seem to like them, and they make great background for a scene.

Aladdin Sane 08-21-2006 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisonlyi
Also bear in mind that women say they like and what actually makes them hot under the collar can be wildly different. I've read a few items on this and watched a documentary last year. The women were all hooked up to pulse, blood pressure and "other" monitors and shown the kind of porn women _report_ that they prefer (VERY broad generalisation) and a little later they were shown the porn that men say they prefer.

Obviously, differences in the relative 'hardness' of the porn and plotlines etc, etc are easy to draw. Ladies, please dont shout at me.

Anyway, as the premise marks out, all the women reported to prefer the more romantic and softer porn, though they were not particularly aroused by it - some women were actually completely unmoved by it though they claimed to have really enjoyed it. The real, marked physical reaction was noted on a pretty low grade, seedy representation of an older man taking a young girl in a barn or some such. Very graphic, very explicit, all possible penetration penetrated.

Thousands of years of inbred denial of their sexual selves has left its mark...

I have no idea what this will do to contribute, but it just seems relevant to me.

This is so my wife. She won't watch porn usually because she has "moral objections." The one time I did get her to watch she had a spontaneous orgasm. It was hot.

SSJTWIZTA 08-21-2006 06:23 PM

www.MyFreePaysite.com

EVERYTHING you will ever need.

Mantus 08-22-2006 05:06 AM

tisonlyi,

Yah, after reading Secret Garden that seems about right...

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesupermikey
abbywinters.com

porn made by women.
always a winner

That was recomended to me earlier...I found it very boring and tame. Plus the girls are lipstick lezzies...if I performed like that with a girlfriends she'd be like WTF? Get OUT!

I've always like porn with real energy...you know when you can tell there is chemestry involved. Very rare, usually found in amature stuff...I havent seen anything like it on DVD but then again I don't rent/buy...I access it though friends.

Comstock seems awsome. Matt & Khym and Marie & Jack look very appealing.

Deltona Couple 08-22-2006 01:18 PM

Just log on to your local yahoo site and contact me and my wife, we will gladly put on a live show via internet cam for you....our email address is:.....$%&(!!*^%^#%^%. Sorry, I had to put it in code so we wouldn't get bugged by everyone....LMAO



(This is a pun! DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!...lol)

Deltona Couple 08-25-2006 06:09 AM

Wow, I didn't think it was possible to stop a thread so fast! Hmmm... Maybe I should have chosen a better comment? LMAO.

genuinegirly 08-25-2006 07:27 AM

hehe, funny Deltona Couple. It looks like the thread was just winding down in the first place.
Tt claims that he's not much of one for porn (is that really normal for a guy to not be interested in porn?!). Everything that I have seen so far has been bothersome and offensive. It turns me off, so I turn it off.

Deltona Couple 08-29-2006 09:41 AM

Why is it tho that the word "porn" itself seems bad? I mean if you really break it down there are so many differnt kinds, I find it difficult(not impossible) that there isn't a movie type that appeals to any particular person. Some people like soft porn, lots of kissing and more like a love story than anything else, Others go for the hard core "cum on her face" type of porn, and some like the middle ground. (lets not mention the other kinds that include some RATHER disturbing things, atleast to me) So I guess it just all depends on the person, and their upbringing? Maybe I am wrong, just adding another comment here to see what everyone else likes. So here is a question then:

If you DO like porn, and aren't embarased to mention it, what is your nich?


I'll go first: I like the more hardcore wild stuff. nothing degrading mind you, but like the screaming, moaning, groaning "come FUCK me you big stud" kind. Also I can't give up on the girl-on-girl porn. My wife says she prefers more of the girl-on-girl stuff, not that she doesn't like the hetero stuff, but says that she somehow just doesnt care for the "money shot" part of hetero porn.

Ustwo 08-29-2006 10:12 AM

As others have pointed out, its what makes her horny that matters.

My wife is one of those who wants a story, with good acting, etc. Her best friend on the other hand likes gang bang videos where one woman is used by 20 guys, gagging bjs' and all. She also likes to see cum dripping out, something that I have no desire to see.

To each there own with porn.

insa 08-29-2006 11:34 AM

try here
Its collection of films from paysite, Russian server, may be slow from abroad

agoodbadhabit 08-29-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantus
...I've always like porn with real energy...you know when you can tell there is chemestry involved. Very rare, usually found in amature stuff...I havent seen anything like it on DVD but then again I don't rent/buy...I access it though friends.

Comstock seems awsome. Matt & Khym and Marie & Jack look very appealing.

We look for the same thing--genuine chemistry and pleasure. We've seen *way* too much porn in which the participants seem to be going through the motions. The heat and authenticity of the scenes in Tony Comstock's "Marie and Jack" was what made us eager to work with him.

One of the many things that impressed us about working with TC was the all-in-one-shot method he used while filming us. No cuts, no direction, no suggestions. We just did what we normally do, at our own pace in with our own style. From what we've seen so far it looks good!

cheers,
Matt and Khym

abaya 08-29-2006 12:07 PM

Holy shit, YOU are Matt and Khym? That is awesome!!! We have celebrities among us, folks... :D

I LOVED Marie and Jack... seriously. Ktspktsp got me that vid for our anniversary, and it's the only porn I ever recommend to people (who are looking to buy videos). Very high-quality stuff. I can't wait to check out Matt and Khym. ;)

VirFighter: the commentary can get old (after you watch it once), but you can turn it off... there are several ways to watch the video. I've watched it completely sans commentary several times. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisonlyi
Thousands of years of inbred denial of their sexual selves has left its mark...

Maybe this is unnecessary, but I had to say something. It was thousands of years of mostly *men* denying women's sexual selves, in the interest of controlling women's sexuality (for the sake of "religion," "purity," or whatever). In more traditional societies today, it is still the man who controls the woman's sexual "self," to the point where she is not allowed to have one. I doubt women would have ever wanted to deny themselves sex if they had been in a position of power for thousands of years... there was simply no other choice, however, when one could be burned at the stake or murdered for exploring sexuality.

Sultana 08-29-2006 01:53 PM

WooHoo! Matt & Kym, how fun!

I bought the "Opposites Attract" Comstock film (due to this thread), and pre-ordered Matt & Kyms. I really enjoy the tenderness, the connection--and the hot sex--with folks that are attractive to watch, but not sexual caricatures nor full-time gym rats. :D

Did you know that if you let the part with the commentary finish, the whole lovemaking scene will play out from beginning to end without interruption? Yup.
Turn off the commentary? You meant aht is a dvd feature, or you just turn off the sound?
I don't wanna lose the sound. :blush:

snowy 08-29-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid
Also films made by Private, a Spanish company, are generally quite high quality in terms of production values and performer attractiveness. Lots of exotic locations, natural boobs and shot-on-film goodness. Only thing is, the ones in English are either dubbed, or the actors have a remarkable array of European accents. The acting is varied and the plots are silly, but... that's what the fast-forward button is for.

Yes, I really like the films by Private. Just enough plot to get by, well-produced, and the girls look natural.

abaya 08-29-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultana
Turn off the commentary? You meant aht is a dvd feature, or you just turn off the sound?

Oh no, don't lose the sound! It's a DVD feature that allows you to watch the sex scenes without the interruptions. No, you definitely want to keep that sound on... ;)

agoodbadhabit 08-29-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya
Maybe this is unnecessary, but I had to say something. It was thousands of years of mostly *men* denying women's sexual selves, in the interest of controlling women's sexuality (for the sake of "religion," "purity," or whatever). In more traditional societies today, it is still the man who controls the woman's sexual "self," to the point where she is not allowed to have one. I doubt women would have ever wanted to deny themselves sex if they had been in a position of power for thousands of years... there was simply no other choice, however, when one could be burned at the stake or murdered for exploring sexuality.

Not unnecessary at all! We can't say it often enough or loud enough ourselves.

Breaking free of the myriad taboos and commonly-accepted mores is challenging, but in our opinion worth the effort. We were pleasantly surprised to find that there are LOTS of others out there who bridle at the double standard most cultures have regarding sexuality, and who are actively working to change (or at least work around) the paradigm.

cheers,
Matt and Khym

ps- "Hi!" and thanks for the warm welcome, abaya and Sultana!

Deltona Couple 09-02-2006 03:59 AM

One of the things that I think is so interesting when it comes to "sex" "porn" and "taboos" is that from the people that I have met in my life, the good ole US seems to be still the ones with the biggest reservations and biggest taboos in the world. I thought that we were a pretty liberal country, but I found out that we are actually considered "boring" sexuality-wise, to many foreigners.

silvertiger 09-02-2006 08:28 PM

My wife and I have the same issue. the only porn that we have seen that stuck with us was one of an array of clips that showed a woman arriving at the door of this man's house and it was a photo shoot ad, and she didnt know that it was for skimpies. From the acting, or lack therof, we believed that it was a genuine ad and response, which made it more realistic, and her reactions during the sex made it all that more believeable .. none of that "unnn .. mmmm .. ahhh .. <lick lips and look at camera>... moan.. oh baby baby yeah .. " crap. it was real sex by real people..

I'd almost be more tempted to watch the bang bus clips over most porn productions because of the reality of them.

now.. if anyone has porn that isnt all about shock factor, over-exotic reactions, or who's got the bigger parts, that's what I'd watch. No cheezy plots, no preplanned "oh my god"'s and no 90 inch cocks or larger than a volkswagon tits hired for freak factor etc...

You give me real life porn .. and i'll enjoy it .. because what I'd rather see if real people enjoying real sex ... of course if I put out a vid of me and the wife I'd not expect anyone else to enjoy it as I'm a tad heavy.. so attractive and well proportioned helps too.

perhaps that's asking too much.

ratbastid 09-03-2006 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvertiger
I'd almost be more tempted to watch the bang bus clips over most porn productions because of the reality of them.

now.. if anyone has porn that isnt all about shock factor, over-exotic reactions, or who's got the bigger parts, that's what I'd watch. No cheezy plots, no preplanned "oh my god"'s and no 90 inch cocks or larger than a volkswagon tits hired for freak factor etc...

You give me real life porn .. and i'll enjoy it .. because what I'd rather see if real people enjoying real sex ... of course if I put out a vid of me and the wife I'd not expect anyone else to enjoy it as I'm a tad heavy.. so attractive and well proportioned helps too.

perhaps that's asking too much.

Not at all. Comstock is what you want.

By the way... If you think the bangbus stuff is "real", think again. Those girls happen to be better actors than most porn chicks. They TOTALLY get paid for that shit. They're hired in advance, screened, tested, and planted on the street before the camera rolls.

Deltona Couple 09-05-2006 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid
Not at all. Comstock is what you want.

By the way... If you think the bangbus stuff is "real", think again. Those girls happen to be better actors than most porn chicks. They TOTALLY get paid for that shit. They're hired in advance, screened, tested, and planted on the street before the camera rolls.


100% Correct, they had an interview with him on time in one of the mags and Sanchez admited that there wasn't a single episode that was real. Most of the girls were college students needing extra money, or girls who wanted to break out in the porm industry.

Another set of videos that I haven't heard mentioned that I REALLY love is "Shane's World" They are a bunch of girls and their boyfriends that go somewhere and hang out and just let things happen. They are pretty good in my opinion, kinda like the 'real deal' stuff.

ASU2003 09-05-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
Another set of videos that I haven't heard mentioned that I REALLY love is "Shane's World" They are a bunch of girls and their boyfriends that go somewhere and hang out and just let things happen. They are pretty good in my opinion, kinda like the 'real deal' stuff.

I've only seen parts of Shane's World #29, and I should probably buy it. It created major problems for Arizona State's image among the public back in 2001. But, they used real college guys, some of whom I knew, and when it came out the administration wasn't too pleased.

But what college guy is going to turn down two hot porn stars?

Deltona Couple 09-06-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASU2003
But what college guy is going to turn down two hot porn stars?

I'm not a college guy anymore, but the only reason I would kick a couple of hott porn stars out of my bed, is because I have more room on the floor! LMAO.

imkeen 09-12-2006 08:36 PM

I like the amateur sex of bangbus and collegefuckfest (cff), but the first really degrades women (leaving them on the side of the road, whereever and speeding off laughing histerically) and cff will sometimes film taking advantage of drunk, passed out women who wake up to guys taking off their skirt and underwear. Both seem to really degrade women from time to time. Partyhardcore is crazy and milfhunter looks a lot like staged porn too.

I'd like to see good, healthy women who want sex with friends or boyfriends. Good amateur stuff...

Comstock Films looks promising, but I'm on Internet speed, I need more releases!

Deltona Couple 09-14-2006 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imkeen
Comstock Films looks promising, but I'm on Internet speed, I need more releases!

More releases? or more release?..lol


I do like the amature stuff. But these days, they are being overshadowed by the 'staged' amature stuff. Bangbus I don't care for too much, but I do like the CFF series, because if it ISN'T real, they do a DAMN good job of faking it!

Derwood 09-20-2006 06:48 AM

Bangbus is COMPLETELY staged. Anyone who believes that is real is sniffing glue. Do you know ANY woman who would get into a van of strangers (with cameras) and have sex with them? Wow, what a coincidence, all these women are clean shaven! How convenient!

CFF is staged too. I've seen plenty of these "co-eds" in other porn videos

Mantus 10-02-2006 11:27 AM

Recently discovered Pink Velvet by Sapphic Erotica. A wonderfully sensual film.

Sapphic is a great lezzie site. Much better then Abby Winters in my opinion. The girls are beautiful and even though they are pro's they seem to have chemestry.

Worth checking out.

elsesomebody 01-24-2007 10:17 AM

There is finally a Comstock film (Xana & Dax) on Cheggit in case anybody wants to sample it. http://cheggit.net/torrents.php?torrentid=26549

Sultana 01-24-2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultana
WooHoo! Matt & Kym, how fun!

I bought the "Opposites Attract" Comstock film (due to this thread), and pre-ordered Matt & Kyms. I really enjoy the tenderness, the connection--and the hot sex--with folks that are attractive to watch, but not sexual caricatures nor full-time gym rats. :D

By the way, Matt & Kym's video is released now. Just got it about a week ago, haven't had ONE SECOND to watch it yet though.

I'm sure it's great. :D


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