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Nowlookit · 07-10-2003, 07:31 AM

Excellent- and a tip o' the hat to the Lady for further clues. This reads like a page out of "The Clitoris for Dummies" book. Release date unknown.

Donkeypuncher · 07-10-2003, 07:44 AM

Great read, pretty on-target.

What I would add, though, is to stress to all the readers out there to whom this is new information that not every woman is the same and a knowledge of anatomy isn't all you need. Pay attention to her, try different things and make mental notes about the reactions you get...

Let her be on top? Good advice unless she doesn't like that position or is too embarrassed to play with herself with someone else present, and that's fairly common. You'll have to do more work on your own and/or work with her to come out of that shell a bit. I've known more than a couple women who had been convinced by previous partners that it was weird to touch themselves during sex. (WHY are so many guys so insecure in bed? oy...) On the other hand, I remember one partner in particular who told me where to lie, how to lie and ordered me not to move - and proceeded to grind away to climax. MAJOR turn-on.

Just... pay attention to her, you know? Her words, her reactions, random noises - they all point you in the right direction. And it's a goooood road to travel.

sportsrule101 · 07-10-2003, 10:07 AM

pictures are cool, whether it be of a naked women, or two naked women. maybe someone could find a few pictures or women pleasing herself with arrows and instructions of how to do it.
or even better a video of how to do it

erion · 07-10-2003, 11:24 AM

And now, just to stir the pot, how well-received would it have been If I had posted an article on the art of fellatio and claimed that every woman needed to read it?

Not trolling, just wanting to discuss the double-standard that exists about these sorts of things, and this is a pretty open-minded group.

sletrock · 07-10-2003, 11:33 AM

Great post.

Thanks

rat · 07-10-2003, 11:54 AM

guaranteed to make her squirm like a fish on a hook (sorry, I know it's a poor analogy). good read, solid info.

astartz · 07-12-2003, 12:34 PM

It's a good article

iandj777 · 07-12-2003, 08:47 PM

I really want to try this now and I don't have anyone to experiment on...dammit!

Kush · 07-13-2003, 11:44 AM

Yeah, my girlfriend said i've got her bits down to a t.

Took a few weeks, but it's oh so worth it.

LordEden · 07-14-2003, 03:17 PM

Good post man, good indept info.

Regziever · 07-15-2003, 07:07 AM

Verry nice! I like his sense of humor!

sportsrule101 · 07-15-2003, 12:29 PM

unbelievable, i have been looking for such advice/guide for awhile now. Bless the tfp, and bless you, the mac god.

tisonlyi · 07-20-2003, 08:03 AM

What's wrong with a kiss?

Why do we have to charging headlong for the clitoris?

Rubbing the thighs? kneading the buttocks? nibbling the earlobes?

heh.

sub zero · 07-20-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Okay... I need picures.

I'm more of a visual learner.

Quote:

Originally posted by Spooo
That will help alot. But it would be better/easier to follow, if there were pictures.

*summons the clitoris commanders* SHA-BLAM!

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit12.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit13.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit15.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit16.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit17.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit18.jpg

Quote:

Originally posted by lady
Cynthetiq - yup, very good info...

...and hold my fingers out straight and leave a little distance between each finger, moving the whole hand back and forth with my clit and hood in between my middle and ring fingers (like you're a dj playing with a record)

link-> DJ pussy img -drawn by me

troit · 07-25-2003, 08:18 AM

What do I care? I cum...

j/k...j/k

Actually knew most of what you explained but its always good to take that "refresher" course. Thanks for posting an imformative article for all members to learn from.

hellasnow · 07-25-2003, 10:32 AM

nice pics sub zero

telloss · 07-25-2003, 06:10 PM

Off to try this stuff out now!

Gorgo · 07-25-2003, 10:47 PM

As an alternate, if the lady doesn't like to be on top, here's another very stimulating position.

The man is on top and face to face like missionary but straddling the lady's legs. It's very stimulating for the clitoris.

Here's the stickfigure pics for those who need a visual :

/||\

pacmannamcap · 08-01-2003, 10:20 AM

A must read...thanks for the letter.

THE MAC GOD · 08-01-2003, 10:30 AM

Yeah... knowledge of anatomy and positions is good... BUT, communication with your partner about what really works and what doesn't is what's key.

angela146 · 08-01-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by erion
And now, just to stir the pot, how well-received would it have been If I had posted an article on the art of fellatio and claimed that every woman needed to read it?

Not trolling, just wanting to discuss the double-standard that exists about these sorts of things, and this is a pretty open-minded group.

I would have read it and not been offended in the least. I've found it very useful to listen to the advice of both men and women on that subject.

Most men don't know exactly what a woman is doing with her tongue and lips when she's giving head. Most women don't know what it feels like to get a BJ. I've gotten good tips from both men and women on how to give good head.

angela146 · 08-01-2003, 11:57 AM

A detailed reply from a woman's perspective:

The article is *very* good for what it says. It gives a lot of good info. I would suggest trying most of what it suggests.

However, there are some very important missing details, the kind of thing that you wouldn't know unless you are female *and* have had the luxury of being with a good lover or two.

The glans of the clitoris (once it is erect and you can get to it) is similar to the glans of a penis in another important way. Most men describe the top face of the glans as being Extremely "surface sensative" and the underside of the glans as being more of a deep inside feeling.

This is because there are two main pleasure-inducing nerves that feed the pubic area (in both men and women). The upper one is a very intense over-sensative nerve and the lower one is a more subtle but "gut-wrenching, I can feel it in my bones" nerve.

I presume that if you gentlemen take some lube and use it to massage the top side of your glans, it will feel very intense but not bring you to orgasm. However, if you cup the underside of the glans and stroke it with the same lube it will build the excitement that makes you orgasm.

In intercourse, a penis get stimulation from both sides. It's kind of a cocktail (pun intended). You guys take that for granted. We don't get that very often.

As the article said, a clitoris is a lot like a penis. If you lick the clitoris (or finger it when it's wet) from underneath and are very careful to not stroke the top face, you may find that it really excites a woman without the "oversensative" problems. As she gets closer to orgasm, you can give the top side some quick flicks to add to the pleasure, but, keep yourself focused on the underside.

Now, let's talk about the shaft. Our shafts are internal (like the article said).

One effective way of stimulating the shaft is from inside the vagina, at the famous G spot. From there you can also reach an organ that is similar to the prostate.

Most men I have talked to, say that stimulating the prostate once they are excited gives a very pleasurable feeling similar to undercupping the glans and/or shaft. Touch the G-spot the same way you would want your prostate massaged (but gentler, ours are smaller).

To make all of this happen at once, you can use your tongue on the under and upper sides of the clitoris and use your index finger inside the vagina along the upper wall to stroke the g-spot.

The other way is through intercourse. Use the head of your penis to stroke the G-spot. Keep it shallow most of the time but take a long full thrust maybe every 6-7 strokes. At the bottom of the long stroke, swivel and grind into her pubic bone to give the upper clitoris some stimulation. Don't be afraid to suggest that she touch herself while you are doing this.

Now for the "hard part" (pun intended). If you come while you are in her, and she hasn't come yet, *don't stop*. Keep right on stroking without a pause. Some men can actually keep it hard and enjoy it *as long as they don't stop for the orgasm*. Keep it going for her and you may bring her off more easily than you think.

Obvious question: Why don't we women tell you all about this stuff?

Simple answer: We can't tell you what we don't know.

Your girlfriend or wife might not know any of this. Her mother probably didn't tell her and she may not have found any of it when she was masturbating as a child. Men can see what they are doing and have a large, mostly external object to work with.

We have to figure it out through experimentation and some of us never do. Do not assume that a woman will be able to guide you through the process of making her feel good. Do not assume that she knows her own body.

She might know a lot, she might know a little. She might need your help.

jiggyjester · 08-02-2003, 11:47 PM

I'm a woman and I've never had an orgasm with a guy UNLESS it was oral.

ghostF98 · 08-07-2003, 12:40 PM

Have you met my girlfriend Delores yet?

Ralvek · 08-07-2003, 02:54 PM

or just remember...you've got to lick it before you stick it

one_voyeur · 08-07-2003, 05:54 PM

great info . . . hope to use it soon. thanks.

08-07-2003, 08:30 PM

Ok, yeah - these are really good directions. I've been doing just like that for a while now with my wife, and the reaction is VERY, VERY good.

Do it.

Regziever · 08-14-2003, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angela146
Now for the "hard part" (pun intended). If you come while you are in her, and she hasn't come yet, *don't stop*. Keep right on stroking without a pause. Some men can actually keep it hard and enjoy it *as long as they don't stop for the orgasm*. Keep it going for her and you may bring her off more easily than you think.

Just one problem here and I think I speak on behalf many many men in the world.
The reason we automaticly pull out when we have cum inside the woman is because the penis gets oversensitive (hypersensitive or whatever...). Pleasure becomes so intense it becomes painfull. We can't "keep going" because it is so godamn painfull in one of our two most "holy" bodyparts that we just can't stand it.
This oversensitivness lasts for a couple of minutes so plz laidies let the brave soldier have a minute or two of rest before you order him back into combat.

I know there are men that doesn't get this oversensitivness (my english is just fabulous today don't you think??

) and I envy them wholehartedly.

I'm guessing the oversensitivness is a reflex created to give the semen a head start before the penis is reinserted and thereby increasing the chance of fertilization..

jimk · 08-14-2003, 02:06 PM

great info.......wish i would've had it out in the field, but i'm sure the wife will greatly appreciate it as well!

motdakasha · 08-14-2003, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Regziever
This oversensitivness lasts for a couple of minutes so plz laidies let the brave soldier have a minute or two of rest before you order him back into combat.

blah blah blah
Use your hands and mouth then, genius :P You do have a hand and a mouth, don't you?
If a guy comes before me and rolls over for a few minutes, by the time he recovered I've cooled off. Cooling off without orgasm is no fun.

As for the clockwise/counterclockwise thing, I've only had the obnoxious kind of stimulation. I do know, though that my sweet spot is at 1:00, heh.

Bamrak · 08-14-2003, 02:47 PM

I do believe this ought to be a must read for the male species..very good and very informative, very nice!

Regziever · 08-15-2003, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by motdakasha
blah blah blah
Use your hands and mouth then, genius :P You do have a hand and a mouth, don't you?
If a guy comes before me and rolls over for a few minutes, by the time he recovered I've cooled off. Cooling off without orgasm is no fun.

Lol.. Okay, it seems like you missed the point I was making entierly.
This was not meant to the men, it was meant to the women here who obviously knows nothing about the functions of male anatomy.
It wasn't meant as an excuse for the men to roll over and go to sleep.
Just because a guy has come doesn't mean he's done having sex (as verry many women I have rolled around in bed with seems to think).
Obviously (as a man) you use what you can during the time the oversensitivness lasts but as a pointer to the women, don't touch the bald warrior untill the oversensitivness has gone away (and don't expect him to hump on when he's just cum). It is verry painfull and uncofortable m'kay??
(is that simple enough for ya???

)

motdakasha · 08-15-2003, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Regziever
Lol.. Okay, it seems like you missed the point I was making entierly.

My point was that most men I've experienced and talk with use this "recovery time" to not do anything. So I was adding to what you said, not contradicting.

Regziever · 08-15-2003, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by motdakasha
My point was that most men I've experienced and talk with use this "recovery time" to not do anything. So I was adding to what you said, not contradicting.

Ok, I see and I hear you.. I don't know how common it is what you describe since I have never had sex with a man but I can imagine it to be verry frustrating. You got a point there.

mjollnir · 08-15-2003, 01:08 PM

great info...

jadedgrin · 08-15-2003, 10:02 PM

funny im pretty sure i have done this without realizing it exactly, well i have noticed, just that i didnt read a manual about it

Phatmonkyz · 08-15-2003, 10:02 PM

that could come in handy

Gooddoggy62 · 08-16-2003, 11:25 AM

How can you tell when your girlfriend is having an orgasm?
Who cares!

quantumburnz · 09-04-2003, 10:43 PM

Well written article. Longest I've ever seen on the subject, but thx!

jbrooks544 · 09-05-2003, 08:46 AM

I couldn't bring myself to read past the first paragraph because it was so full of b.s. and was so wrong. My woman gets off about a million times more from internal stimulation than tickling the love button. I'm not saying everything in the article isn't accurate - it is probably fine - but don't diss the ol' in and out and all the other stuff you can do without getting hung up on the button...

07-10-2003, 07:44 AM	#42 (permalink)
Donkeypuncher Psycho Location: Pasadena, CA	Great read, pretty on-target. What I would add, though, is to stress to all the readers out there to whom this is new information that not every woman is the same and a knowledge of anatomy isn't all you need. Pay attention to her, try different things and make mental notes about the reactions you get... Let her be on top? Good advice unless she doesn't like that position or is too embarrassed to play with herself with someone else present, and that's fairly common. You'll have to do more work on your own and/or work with her to come out of that shell a bit. I've known more than a couple women who had been convinced by previous partners that it was weird to touch themselves during sex. (WHY are so many guys so insecure in bed? oy...) On the other hand, I remember one partner in particular who told me where to lie, how to lie and ordered me not to move - and proceeded to grind away to climax. MAJOR turn-on. Just... pay attention to her, you know? Her words, her reactions, random noises - they all point you in the right direction. And it's a goooood road to travel. __________________ "take me down, little Susie, take me down I know you think you're the Queen of The Underground" Last edited by Donkeypuncher; 07-10-2003 at 07:54 AM..

07-10-2003, 10:07 AM	#43 (permalink)
sportsrule101 Insane	pictures are cool, whether it be of a naked women, or two naked women. maybe someone could find a few pictures or women pleasing herself with arrows and instructions of how to do it. or even better a video of how to do it __________________ winning isn't everything but losing isn't anything

07-12-2003, 08:47 PM	#48 (permalink)
iandj777 Upright Location: reston	I really want to try this now and I don't have anyone to experiment on...dammit! __________________ I have nothing more to say

07-13-2003, 11:44 AM	#49 (permalink)
Kush Insane Location: Ecosse.	Yeah, my girlfriend said i've got her bits down to a t. Took a few weeks, but it's oh so worth it. __________________ I like this forum. A lot.

07-15-2003, 07:07 AM	#51 (permalink)
Regziever Sexy eh? Location: Sweden	Verry nice! I like his sense of humor! __________________ Life is shit, Death is even worse, So what's the point of killing yourself? /Ignatius Camryn Paladine

07-10-2003, 07:31 AM	#41 (permalink)
Nowlookit Upright	Excellent- and a tip o' the hat to the Lady for further clues. This reads like a page out of "The Clitoris for Dummies" book. Release date unknown.

07-10-2003, 11:24 AM	#44 (permalink)
erion Psycho	And now, just to stir the pot, how well-received would it have been If I had posted an article on the art of fellatio and claimed that every woman needed to read it? Not trolling, just wanting to discuss the double-standard that exists about these sorts of things, and this is a pretty open-minded group.

07-10-2003, 11:33 AM	#45 (permalink)
sletrock Upright Location: The Heart of Sooner Country	Great post. Thanks

07-12-2003, 12:34 PM	#47 (permalink)
astartz Tilted	It's a good article

07-15-2003, 12:29 PM	#52 (permalink)
sportsrule101 Insane	unbelievable, i have been looking for such advice/guide for awhile now. Bless the tfp, and bless you, the mac god. __________________ winning isn't everything but losing isn't anything

07-20-2003, 08:03 AM	#53 (permalink)
tisonlyi Nothing	What's wrong with a kiss? Why do we have to charging headlong for the clitoris? Rubbing the thighs? kneading the buttocks? nibbling the earlobes? heh. __________________ "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill, 1937 --{ORLY?}--

07-25-2003, 08:18 AM	#55 (permalink)
troit Transfer Agent Location: NYC	What do I care? I cum... j/k...j/k Actually knew most of what you explained but its always good to take that "refresher" course. Thanks for posting an imformative article for all members to learn from. __________________ I've yet to dephile myself...

07-25-2003, 10:32 AM	#56 (permalink)
hellasnow Insane	nice pics sub zero __________________ "when life looks like easy street..... theres danger at your door." (JG)

07-25-2003, 06:10 PM	#57 (permalink)
telloss Upright	Off to try this stuff out now!

07-25-2003, 10:47 PM	#58 (permalink)
Gorgo Tilted Location: Tampa Bay, Florida	Alternate with guy on top As an alternate, if the lady doesn't like to be on top, here's another very stimulating position. The man is on top and face to face like missionary but straddling the lady's legs. It's very stimulating for the clitoris. Here's the stickfigure pics for those who need a visual : /\|\|\ __________________ Will Code for food . . . Last edited by Gorgo; 07-25-2003 at 10:53 PM..

08-07-2003, 02:54 PM	#65 (permalink)
Ralvek Crazy Location: MN	or just remember...you've got to lick it before you stick it __________________ Ban country music, it promotes inbreeding.

08-01-2003, 10:20 AM	#59 (permalink)
pacmannamcap Upright	A must read...thanks for the letter.

08-01-2003, 10:30 AM	#60 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	Yeah... knowledge of anatomy and positions is good... BUT, communication with your partner about what really works and what doesn't is what's key. __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

08-01-2003, 11:57 AM	#62 (permalink)
angela146 Loser Location: Somewhere near Hubby	A detailed reply from a woman's perspective: The article is very good for what it says. It gives a lot of good info. I would suggest trying most of what it suggests. However, there are some very important missing details, the kind of thing that you wouldn't know unless you are female and have had the luxury of being with a good lover or two. The glans of the clitoris (once it is erect and you can get to it) is similar to the glans of a penis in another important way. Most men describe the top face of the glans as being Extremely "surface sensative" and the underside of the glans as being more of a deep inside feeling. This is because there are two main pleasure-inducing nerves that feed the pubic area (in both men and women). The upper one is a very intense over-sensative nerve and the lower one is a more subtle but "gut-wrenching, I can feel it in my bones" nerve. I presume that if you gentlemen take some lube and use it to massage the top side of your glans, it will feel very intense but not bring you to orgasm. However, if you cup the underside of the glans and stroke it with the same lube it will build the excitement that makes you orgasm. In intercourse, a penis get stimulation from both sides. It's kind of a cocktail (pun intended). You guys take that for granted. We don't get that very often. As the article said, a clitoris is a lot like a penis. If you lick the clitoris (or finger it when it's wet) from underneath and are very careful to not stroke the top face, you may find that it really excites a woman without the "oversensative" problems. As she gets closer to orgasm, you can give the top side some quick flicks to add to the pleasure, but, keep yourself focused on the underside. Now, let's talk about the shaft. Our shafts are internal (like the article said). One effective way of stimulating the shaft is from inside the vagina, at the famous G spot. From there you can also reach an organ that is similar to the prostate. Most men I have talked to, say that stimulating the prostate once they are excited gives a very pleasurable feeling similar to undercupping the glans and/or shaft. Touch the G-spot the same way you would want your prostate massaged (but gentler, ours are smaller). To make all of this happen at once, you can use your tongue on the under and upper sides of the clitoris and use your index finger inside the vagina along the upper wall to stroke the g-spot. The other way is through intercourse. Use the head of your penis to stroke the G-spot. Keep it shallow most of the time but take a long full thrust maybe every 6-7 strokes. At the bottom of the long stroke, swivel and grind into her pubic bone to give the upper clitoris some stimulation. Don't be afraid to suggest that she touch herself while you are doing this. Now for the "hard part" (pun intended). If you come while you are in her, and she hasn't come yet, don't stop. Keep right on stroking without a pause. Some men can actually keep it hard and enjoy it as long as they don't stop for the orgasm. Keep it going for her and you may bring her off more easily than you think. Obvious question: Why don't we women tell you all about this stuff? Simple answer: We can't tell you what we don't know. Your girlfriend or wife might not know any of this. Her mother probably didn't tell her and she may not have found any of it when she was masturbating as a child. Men can see what they are doing and have a large, mostly external object to work with. We have to figure it out through experimentation and some of us never do. Do not assume that a woman will be able to guide you through the process of making her feel good. Do not assume that she knows her own body. She might know a lot, she might know a little. She might need your help. Last edited by angela146; 08-01-2003 at 12:03 PM..

08-02-2003, 11:47 PM	#63 (permalink)
jiggyjester Upright	I'm a woman and I've never had an orgasm with a guy UNLESS it was oral.

08-07-2003, 12:40 PM	#64 (permalink)
ghostF98 Tilted Location: texas	Have you met my girlfriend Delores yet?

08-07-2003, 05:54 PM	#66 (permalink)
one_voyeur Upright Location: Virginia	great info . . . hope to use it soon. thanks.

08-07-2003, 08:30 PM	#67 (permalink)
Achernar Guest	Ok, yeah - these are really good directions. I've been doing just like that for a while now with my wife, and the reaction is VERY, VERY good. Do it.

08-14-2003, 02:06 PM	#69 (permalink)
jimk Addict Location: Chicago	great info.......wish i would've had it out in the field, but i'm sure the wife will greatly appreciate it as well! __________________ raw power is a guaranteed o.d. raw power is a laughin' at you & me -iggy

08-14-2003, 02:47 PM	#71 (permalink)
Bamrak Enter Title Here Location: Tennessee	I do believe this ought to be a must read for the male species..very good and very informative, very nice!

08-15-2003, 01:08 PM	#75 (permalink)
mjollnir Tilted Location: Near Gainesville, FL	great info... __________________ Yes I am a Pirate 200 years too late, Cannons don't thunder theres nuthin to plunder I'm an over 30 victim of fate...

08-15-2003, 10:02 PM	#76 (permalink)
jadedgrin Psycho Location: eh	funny im pretty sure i have done this without realizing it exactly, well i have noticed, just that i didnt read a manual about it __________________ what puts a smile on your face??

08-15-2003, 10:02 PM	#77 (permalink)
Phatmonkyz Insane	that could come in handy __________________ The Vagina - the mysterious hole from whence you came, and into which you hope to cum again. Good Times

08-16-2003, 11:25 AM	#78 (permalink)
Gooddoggy62 Upright Location: Iowa	How can you tell when your girlfriend is having an orgasm? Who cares!

09-04-2003, 10:43 PM	#79 (permalink)
quantumburnz Tilted Location: Tucson, AZ	Well written article. Longest I've ever seen on the subject, but thx! __________________ University of Arizona Tucson, AZ Computer Engineering

09-05-2003, 08:46 AM	#80 (permalink)
jbrooks544 Addict	I couldn't bring myself to read past the first paragraph because it was so full of b.s. and was so wrong. My woman gets off about a million times more from internal stimulation than tickling the love button. I'm not saying everything in the article isn't accurate - it is probably fine - but don't diss the ol' in and out and all the other stuff you can do without getting hung up on the button...