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If you've watched porn before, you've probably seen a facial. It's when the male sprays his semen all over the girl's face. Put in such terms, it's not a very glamorous event. However, to many, this is a very erotic scene - enough to influence some males to seek to actually reenact it with their own partners. The flipside to that however, is that by some, it is seen as very degrading towards woman. The following is an analysis on both ends of the spectrum. Hopefully people can chime in with their observations and opinions.

Anti-facial Female:
Some women cite health concerns and some cite general cleanliness concerns, but the majority of the anti-facial crowd usually jump on the idea that facials are demeaning towards women. A woman, on her knees, mouth open, subservient, ready to accept a man's sperm, which usually shoots out quickly and awkwardly to make the girl look foolish could definately be seen as degrading. In many porn videos, women are shown as looking dumb or being disrespected and 'forced' to deal with a man's fluids. This is the depiction that women usually take with them when they imagine what their own man is thinking when he may request a facial.

Pro-facial Female:
A woman who looks to accept a man spraying his semen into her face is rare. However, of the women I've spoken to in the past, this desire is not indicative of subservient behavior. It seems to be more a trait of the 'free spirit' who has little qualms about behavior in a private setting. The general idea is "messy = fun" and a facial is definately messy. Not only that, but it pleases women to be able to get their man to orgasm and this is one of many ways to do that. While of course, with a little bad luck, the moment can turn from heated and passionate to a comedy reel, the very idea that few women are even willing to go through with this act gives the lady involved an empowered feeling. Women do want to be able to please their man like no other can.

Anti-facial Male:
A pattern begins to emerge as we look at males who have no desire to give or ask for a facial. As with the females who are against it, they either don't find it erotic at all or see it as demeaning to their partner. There are many places in which a male can 'finish up' which can be even more erotic than on a girl's face. To many, it's simply not satisfying and it puts them on the spot.

Pro-facial Male:
Since it's generally the male who is getting off during this kind of activity, it's not too biased to say that it mostly comes down to how the male wants it. Does he want to forcefully spray his load onto a girl's struggling and contorted face? Does he want to release his come at the will of his lustful partner? Does he want to *surprise* his lady with more than she had been bargaining for? Arguments both good and bad could be made for any approach a male takes to being involved in a facial. Simply put: if a male wants to give a facial, his intentions should be questioned. They could range anywhere from harmless messy fun, to contempt and disrespect.


In my own opinion, I think it's fuckin' hot as hell to have a girl who wants you to come. Not only that, but she's really into the moment and it doesn't matter where... in fact she wants it to be as messy as possible. Wow that is fun. I think the general zone of "on the face" is like that rare treat. I mean, while coming inside her is amazing, and coming over various other body parts is great fun too, the face is like caviar; you dont eat it every day and it doesn't taste as good as a steak, but you definately feel important when you do eat it.

I love it when a girl wants to be messy. Sometimes I feel like I limit myself to a lot of activity because I am not totally comfortable with really messy situations. A girl who wants to be messy? Sign me up. She's free willed and unrestrained.

To wrap this all up, I feel that porn is responsible for both good and bad opinions of facials. Facials themselves are neither good nor bad - it all depends on the couple involved and how their opinions on the matter meet up. I urge everyone to realize this and not make assumptions about your next hot date.

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ruggerp11

To be fair in my own humble opinion, I don't give a shit where it goes. I'm just lucky to have a girl that wants to please me. If I had a preference, I'd have her swallow and keep going lightly.

One think I see as hotter than an all out facial is when getting oral and she is swallowing but a little slips out of the corner of her mouth. Kind of an 'in the moment' type thing. Dunno, honestly its all gravy (pun!)

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I am an anti-facial female because, well, I don't really care for the mess (mostly because I don't care for the clean-up), I do see it as degrading (and most guys I've been with don't want to do it because, well, I'm in charge), and finally, I'd rather swallow. It seems like a really good waste of jizz to just let it go everywhere. I like to finish regular sex with swallowing as well.

Yeah, no thanks.

Oh, and with the exception of "being messy" I am generally a free-spirited person sexually and willing to try everything...it's just that I've done messy (in other ways besides facials) and it really holds no appeal to me. It's just a pain in the ass to clean up. If we do messy, it's in the shower or on top of an extra sheet we can throw in the wash easily. There's just something about rubbing each other down in massage oil and sliding all over one another...

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Sweetpea

Well.

personally i love facials, although we don't do them that often But i usually like to swallow... now that... is erotic! And I happen to own a porno of completely facial shots, because well... it's hot. Visually, it's exciting to see a man cum on a girl's face... or breasts are good too for that matter... and asking hubby to do it, i'm all for it because ... well,
A: i know he's totally into it and thinks it's fucking hot and
B: we always do it when were in a crazy, let's just fucking let go kind of mood.

i don't think it's demeaning... no more demeaning when when a guy eats your pussy out and has to swallow a bit of juices here and there?? i mean... i know there are some minor differences, but hypothetically speaking... isn't the the same thing? a guy between your legs eating you out... versus a woman on her knees getting a facial, they seem pretty much the same thing to me. and both could be considered 'messy'... but good sex IS messy.
And messy sex is really about giving pleasure anyway.

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Facials are fine by me, as long as I don't get shot in the eye. It's sexy to me to have my man cum anywhere on my body he wants to, including my face. In my mind, it's not degrading at all because I don't let it be. If I ever got the inkling that a guy was trying to degrade me by doing that, I would put a stop to that real fast.

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My wife and I just discussed this Saturday afternoon. 1st question she had was how come I never ask to do it. I've sprayed her chest many times and got some over spray on her face on occassion, but never started out to cum her face. I asked her if she would feel degraded or slutty if I did. She basicly said I was a dork, and why should she feel that way. So Saturday night I set out to give her a facial. It was fun. It didn't really seem that much different than cumming on her tits. She was good with it apparently becuase she said you just got a little more on my face and less on my tits than usual. She even said I could do it again.

So I would have to say it depends on the strength of your relationship or the people involved. We are both good with it.

Oh, she did say she wouldn't appreciate it very much if I snuck up behind the sofa and ambushed her in the face.

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Seaver

I just dont get it. Why do that when you can cum INSIDE her? Feels SO much better.

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My wife always reminds me that men are visual, and women are aural

anyway, so she always tries to do things that increase my visual excitment (making sure I can see her face, her eyes, what *exactly* her lips are doing to my mushroom tip, & etc); although, part of the equation is that she is reminding me to stimulate her aurally (talk about how hot she is, the act is making me, & etc.)


not to be a cad, and not saying this act always implies disrespect, but sometimes I want to degrade women. and sometimes, with the right person I trust, I want to be degraded. keep it in context, though. I'm referring to fantasy land, straight up fuckplay, not in everyday (realworld) affairs. sometimes I just want to glue my fuckfriend's eyes shut.

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feelgood

I'm with Seaver on this one.

Personally, giving facials is kinda of disgusting with me. I don't see how it's erotical to myself or my partner and it seems to demean her.

"Oh yeah, oooh baby, look at me, I'm sprayin my shit all over your face"

Nope, don't see how its sexy. I'm a visual kind of guy and that sorts of thing would be a turn off for me. Heck, when I was getting it on with a chick, I was surprised to hear from her that she wanted to swallow which I thought most women would be totally turned off by it, even I was but whatever gets her off dude, I'm already off

By the way, I'm not saying that giving facials is wrong, I'm just saying its not my sorts of thing. Some people like to degrade their partner, I got my ways of degrading that others may find it to be a turn off. The world of sex is fun, forbidden, and fucked. That's why everybody likes it

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Borla

I agree 100%

I'll do anything she wants me to, lick her anywhere she wants to be licked, and have fun doing it. A facial is fairly rare for us, but it does happen from time to time. I don't feel dominant when I do it as much as possessive when I do it, if that makes sense? Not possessive in a jealous sense, but in a proud sense. I would say over half the time I do it when SHE suggests it, not the other way around. Often I ask her where she wants me to come. Usually it is inside her, in her mouth is the second most common option, but sometimes she will ask for it on her stomach, breasts, or face. Who am I to deny a beautiful woman what she wants?

If she said tomorrow "I don't want to do it anymore", my only negative feeling would be because it would be one less thing to do for varity's sake. *shrug*

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percy

Whenever the discussion comes up between me and my friends they look at me like I'm the biggest whore in the world,...just cuz I like facials and I like pleasing my man. I love swallowing also. Just the look on my man's face when he get's off while I'm sucking the head off his big dick and swirling my tongue around like there is no tomorrow is priceless.

Oh but when my friends jump in the sack with a total stranger a day after meeting them, that's perfectly acceptable. Sluts them all. But I love them like my family.

toxic515

well, for the sake of weighing in on the matter, I'm mildly fascinaated with it, as my wife doesn't particularly want to do that. We've been married 13 years, together about 17, and frankly, since I still get some about 4-5 times a week and it's good, I have no complaints. I do tend to understand how some may view it as demeaning, but I don't see it that way. My wife kind of does, and she's not into that, though she is more than happy to be submissive, so long as she doesn't "look" submissive. (whatever that means)

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Agreed. My wife seems to suggest it the most as well. Sometimes she'll ask me what I want to do, and most of the time I'd rather shoot across her tits, because I love it.

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lurkette

ratbastid developed a penchant for facials a year or more ago, and at first I only grudgingly allowed it - I did think it had some kind of degradation aspect to it, since our friend D had just said she didn't want to sleep with him, but did want to sleep with me. But he has since convinced me that it's not about that. For him it's a very intimate act, and I actually like it best when I'm on my knees in the shower and he puts his hand behind my head - feels very loving and close. The cleanup IS a bitch (see my previous thread about getting semen out of silk pillowcases...and damn, they could market that stuff as industrial adhesive!!!) but he loves it so much, almost better than oral. So hey, why not make him happy?

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JumpinJesus

I fall into the anti-facial male category, if I must categorize myself.

I don't really find it that erotic. I can't really give a reason. It's just not something that turns me on when I think about doing it. When the moment arrives, I'm not usually concerned about where it goes, as long as it goes somewhere where I don't have to sit, lay, roll around, stand, or kneel. It's a messy clean-up.

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Derwood

I'm and anti-facial male. To me, they really aren't that sexy in porn, and unfortunately, pro-porn (as opposed to amateur) has pushed the facial to farther and farther places (bukkake being the extreme). It's just not for me.

Now swallowing...

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Sage

I think that porn (most porn anyway) represents the facial in a negative light. The girls always seem way suprised at it, or it hits them in the eye and they flinch, or they go all bukkake/Peter North and dump a bowl of spooge on the girl's head.... ewwww. That's not a facial, that's a wierd assed fetish if you ask me.

I LOVE it when Martel gets off because of me. He loves me and thinks I'm the sexiest damned thing on the planet- he wants it any way, every way (see lyrics for Ludacris' "What's Your Fantasy"). I LOVE getting Martel off- it's hot as hell, the whole knees buckling ass dripping with sweat veins buldging and the eye roll that accompanies a good strong cum-in-my-face along with the obvious thought mixed up in his head of "I've got the greatest wife in the whole fucking world!!!" I dig it!

Juice is juice, man... you either dig the juice or you don't. It's cool if you don't, but at some point there needs to be some fluids interchanging in some way in order to have sex....

I like it messy.... If I wasn't such a stickler for clean sheets our bedroom would look completely white under the CSI Spooge-o-tron

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KungFuGuy

I think that if she swallows its so much hotter than a facial. I guess you could put me in the category of 'why cum on her when you can cum inside of her?'.

typically the only times i want to come on her face and in her hair is when I'm feeling angry or mad. To bring anger into the equation seems unhealthy, so I steer away from it. Porn is probably where I got the idea about it being okay to cum in her face/hair if your angry.

thats not to say that angry/make up sex is a bad thign of course. (usually its a venting of anger/upsetness than anything else though).

i can't really put it very academically i'm afraid.

for the record you could put me up as an anti-facial male.

Halx

I love the responses. It also does not surprise me to hear most of the females speak up and declare that they enjoy it. After all, it's the TFP. I would warn males about this, though, becauseI doubt such a majority exists when you get out there and poll every woman you see.

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SecretMethod70

I generally agree with both of these sentiments. I think what it is is that a facial sort of says "I am so into the sex I want it everywhere"...and while having it anywhere else can say that too, nothing says it louder than a facial. Naturally, respect is also important. If someone is not interested in it, you don't just go and do it anyway.

As for coming inside being better, this is not something I disagree with or agree with. It's all in the mood.

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Pro-facial male here. I agree that it's all about the mood you're in. If the moment's all loving, and the sex is slow and sensual - and here you suddenly whip it out and come all over her face - I can guarantee she's not going to want to cuddle afterwards.

I'm just grateful that mandy doesn't mind me/wants me to cum on her face (or in her mouth), although I'm pretty sure she prefers inside her. There is a certain degradation aspect to it for me, but that's rare. Men are visual, and it's definitely something I like looking at.

Most of the time I'm looking down at her thinking "She must really love me to let me do this to her".

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Agreed. I don't mind facials as long as I don't get shot in the eye or up the nose. They both burn quite badly.

Johnny Pyro

I can definitley understand the degrading part. However, it is a fantasy of mine to do a facial. Not to degrade. It's just hot!

If a girl wanted to squirt in my face, that's cool with me baby! I'd prefer and would love it.

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little_tippler

It's a non-issue for me. Before I ever read about people thinking it was degrading and realizing that a lot of women wouldn't do it, I had already done it and not thought twice about it. Same for swallowing. It all came naturally and I didn't think either was unpleasant or disgusting, they were just part of sex. And if it pleases the guy I'm with and I don't have a problem with it, then it's fine with me. I never thought it was degrading to me, in fact it felt good to be able to please my guy and it made me even hornier to do it because I knew it drove him crazy. He gets turned on, I get turned on, and vice versa.

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Rinndalir

It's no more degrading than smacking her on the ass when you're taking her from behind, or pulling her hair, or holding her down when you're on top, or anal sex, or on and on...it's just an act. It can be if it's approached that way. Then again if both people want it that way then what's the problem.

I'm a guy and I'm pro, love it and I love seeing it in porno. It's hot. Esp when the girl is into it, moaning or using her hands or making eye contact not just sitting there with her eyes closed waiting for it, all tensed up wanting it to be over with. That's not very erotic but when she wants it all over her that's hot. Well usually. Sometimes I like to see the girl get used and abused. It's just fantasy though. I doubt its ever real in porno. In RL if my wife TELLS me to call her a slut, hold her down and come on her face why shouldn't I. She's the one that's really in charge anyway, lol

Yeah I can agree with that. It's hard to explain but describes it well.

My lady is the opposite. She hates swallowing. She'd much rather get a facial or a titty shot than come in her mouth. That's fine by me I'd rather see it all over her anyway.

Yeah its kind of an event for us too. Usually includes a sexy outfit, trashy makeup to ruin, and breaking out the digicam. I like it that way because it's always exciting. And we've only done the "degrading" style once but it was hot for both of us. We both agreed we'd do it again definitely but only if we're both in a certain mood for it, so that one's even more rare - again if you're both into it and get off on doing it this way I don't see the problem.

ratbastid

Yeah, that's exactly right. It's a really intimate thing for me. I'm not sure if I can really explain it. For some reason it's very satisfying.

It's not even a rare thing for us anymore. If we're horny but not up for like full-on sex (You know what I mean? Actual penetrative intercourse takes a lot of effort, comparatively speaking. Sometimes we're just not up for it.) we'll fool around in various ways, which frequently includes putting my cock between her perfect, soft, wonderful breasts, and usually ends with a facial.

I'm not interested in any hint of dominance about it. That would sort of kill it for me, actually. My fantasy is for her to want it. Sometimes I'll have her ask for it, beg for it. That's hotter than hell.

I was with a girl a few months ago who was like sweetpea--like, the facial's okay with her, but she'd rather swallow. So we compromised, 50/50. She got plenty to swallow later on, so she wasn't deprived.

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For me its not so much a facial thing as it a girl wanting my cum sorta thing. In my mind it goes something like "she wants/likes me so much shes willing to... go down on me, swallow my cum, want my cum on her chest, want my cum on her face, etc."

For me its all about feeling desired enough that the woman is willingly performing actions that could be seen at subservient etc.

World's King

It's all apart of the male fantasy of his wife/girlfriend turning into a dirty whore in the bedroom.

There is nothing better than knowing not twenty minutes before she serves your kids breakfast she was sucking your dick like a pornstar then asked you to come on her face cause she's been bad and need punishment. I laugh. I laugh outloud after good sex cause I know the mouth that was so willingly choking on my cock has been used to speak with respected adults and other members of society.

I'm sorry. Next time your wife/girlfriend takes a shot to the face after blowin you... just remember... not long ago... she gave her mom a kiss with that same mouth.

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I don't think that it's degrading (assuming it's done with the female's permission). For me, it's more of a "mood" issue. If you've been taking things slow and sweet, then it doesn't really seem to fit. But if you're in the mood to just get down and dirty and all out fuck, then it can be great. Generally if the guy's gonna come somewhere on my body I prefer other places like my chest or back, but I'm not against him coming on my face. If it's in a bondage/submission type of situation then it can be really hot.

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Rinndalir

Whoa, damn that would be hot. Gotta tell her to do that next time for sure. Damn. Beg for it, damn.

Fantasy, lol. My wife will freely admit to anyone she's a dirty girl, including her mom

I can see that angle though for sure, I always fantasized about doing it to a certain ex, she was so goddamn uptight about everything especially sex (she refused to do it doggystyle because it was demeaning and slutty, her words). That one could've used a good 'punishing', maybe she would've even enjoyed it if she let herself, probably not though, sex with her just wasn't fun.

My wife though, I don't think she gets why I love it but she does it and smiles and has a great time. That's the thing, even when we're playing like she's getting 'punished' or whatever she's really enjoying the hell out of it. If she wasn't it wouldn't be any good for me.

anne30

I always find it a bit of a waste when a guy cums on my face.
I love the taste of sperm but I don't like to swallow straight down,
it's nice to get a load (or two ...) in my mouth
so I can savor it before swallowing. But that's just me.

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insaneone

i'm just glad if the chick comes

doncalypso

I'd rather shoot my load in the woman's mouth (while she's giving me head, of course) or in her ass as a conclusion to anal sex.

I wouldn't get anything out of shooting my load on a woman's face.

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kutulu

I usually pull out and when I do, it can reach her face but it usually isn't intentional. She doesn't mind a facial but it's too much work right at the end to move from hips to face in that time frame. When she goes down on me a facial happens from time to time but she usually just swallows it (after showing me, of course). There's no clean up after swallowing!

WillyPete

What turns me off it is not the diminishing factor or anything pro-/anti- but that fact that it just looks so damn scripted right now. It's a cliche.

If I watch a porn then I'll probably turn off the bit at the end because it's just crap usually.
Do I need proof that the guy really has come?
Do I need to see and compare Volume?
Do I really want to watch him take another 5 minutes of self-masturbation to get it done?

No.

The people in the porn generally don't look like they WANT to do it and that's the important thing for me.
She usually just sits there on her knees going 'haaaaahhhhhhhhhh' with her tongue touching her chin as though he's looking for bad tonsils.
It really puts me off seeing that.

It would be more of a turn on, if I had to see the money shot, to have her furiously jerk him off whilst he was tied up or something. Just something out of the norm.

I guess I need to vary my choice of websites.

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Sweetpea

well, in my interpretation .... say you cum into a girls pussy... then when you pull out, she sucks the extra cum off of your cock. I personally love the taste and for me at least... that's how i always like to finish up every sex session.

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