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UN office doctored report on murder of Hariri
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Holy freaking crap! What is going on in that organization? Sparing the family of dictators? Why? Either Annan is behind this nonsense, or he has lost control of the organization. Either way, this, in addition to his already well documented corruption, indicates it is time for him to go. And to go in disgrace. -bear |
So basically, it seems that the Secretary-General of the UN might be complacent in the assasination of a national political leader.
Where did they find this guy? Iraqi secret police? Personally, I would tell the UN that either he goes or THEY go (from New York), but then again, there's a reason I won't even be a politician :D |
I can't stand Annan, especially now. Get rid of him; he *is* a disgrace. The UN needs a serious overhaul; his expulsion is just the beginning.
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just like oil-for-food, UN troopers raping children in the Congo, and embezzlement of UN funds... the most remarkable feature of this story is that no one will care.
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*Crickets chirping*
I listen for the indignation of the left. |
I think we're just wondering if you guys would be as "indignant" if this were something that President Bush had done.
This is a non-story. They edited out some names. Big deal, happens all the time and it doesn't change a thing in the report. Herr Mehlis said he did it on his own and explained why he did it. Calling for Annan to be dismissed is just as ridiculous as the Bush haters calling for Bush to be impeached. But you don't have to believe me, listen to John Bolton: Quote:
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I'm not overly indignant on this one... from what I can see they have only accused these men and not charged them (hell they don't have the authority to charge them). If they were named it is generally agreed that they would be hunted down.
I guess those on the right here do not believe in innocent until proven guilty and would like to see vigilante justice done... |
This cricket was taking a nice snooze because I don't tend to get a "holy freaking crap" response from a single article. So it is necessary, once again, to do the homework that seems lacking in posts of this kind. Ya know, actually reading the material offered?
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Four pro-Syrian generals have been arrested, but further leads remain to be investigated that point to Syrian officials. All information relevant to the investigation has been turned over to Lebanon, and additional time has been requested to pursue what Syrian involvement can be determined. It is an ongoing investigation and you can't name suspected individuals when you currently have no substantive data to back up your claim. The report states that Syrian officials are providing false information and that they should be compelled to be more forthcoming. Quote:
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*crickets chirping*
great reply Elphaba... |
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"Crickets chirping." |
I agree the edits smell foul, and don't match Annan's "no-edit" promise, but it could simply be that they don't have solid evidence pointing to the individuals. Leaving uncertain names in the report, even with other solid facts, would make it easy to discredit as a whole. Better to let the public froth while the Syrian government drowns in denials.
Now for the paranoid section: I'm having trouble with the continual stupidity of people "forgetting" about edit history. Hasn't this been covered in Sleazebag-101 for 15yrs? It's easier to imagine the edits being left intentionally. 1) Someone else left the edits to shaft both the Syrians and Annan. Looks bad for Annan, and when the general public finds out the original report names individuals, it's worse than if the names had been included. This version carries rumors the UN couldn't prove, but Syrian denials lend credibility. Rumors can be worse than official charges. 2) Annan did it on purpose. He knows they don't have solid evidence, but he wants the charges aired. He can sidestep the edit mini-scandal. I'm not a fan of Annan, but would he have attained his position by being stupid? Okay, I'll stop. |
First and last warning.
Discuss the topic and layoff each other. |
Well, on the way home I was listening to NPR. The reporter stated that a request has been made to extend the investigation, and that it would likely be granted. We'll learn more about this, and then we can all sit back and watch Bashir squirm.
I didn't need to hear/see names on this report - not yet. |
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also, according the republicans 'contract with america,' delay should not be house majority leader. seems to me like he's doing the right thing. |
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BUT, I take the same stance on everyone being investigated. Let them do their work and we'll see the facts. Personally I think the UN is as corrupt as boxing.. but that's just me. |
I think most of you are missing the point, and it is entirely my fault.
I posted this to discuss a UN, and its Sec-Gen which injected iteself into an investigative roll surrounding the ASSISINATION of the LEADER OF A SOVERIEGN NATION, and then attempting to withhold the most interesting parts of it's own investigation. I left the door open to such charges as unfairly judging guilty before innocent, unreasonably expecting the UN to be true to it's charter and the word of it's leader and all that other unfair stuff. -bear |
Can you clear something up for me bear? With only one witness naming names, do you think it would be right for the report to name those names? Isn't that just hearsay?
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To late now though isn't it? |
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1. I am uninformed and smug. 2. Either I think the report is adequate or I have fondness for the Syrian government. Is this really what you meant? -bear |
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Great perspective Cyrnel. -bear |
The funny thing about politics is that replace U.N. with Bush Admin, and you would see a very different take from the same people posting.
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