10-21-2005, 05:01 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Interesting....but suspect
I just read this article...and did not really like /or believe much of what I read in it. But, that said, there are enough supporting data to at the very least make me wonder. As I find our members here a wonderful sounding block, I was hoping to get some opinion before...or if this actually hits the major media.
thanks in advance http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681
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10-21-2005, 03:59 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Tecoyah, the article does a masterful job of "connecting the dots" with respect to the players and their motivations. My opinion is that you might not be able to take this to the bank in it's entirety, but ultimately most of the information will be found to be true.
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10-21-2005, 10:30 PM | #3 (permalink) | |
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Yes very suspect, it does a masteful job of being suspect Edit: A few lines in that article to me said 'This guy is Anti-Isreal' and a quick search of his writings yield http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7127.
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10-21-2005, 11:29 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Yeah, this guy is the left's answer to Pat Buchanan. That doesn't mean that he's wrong all the time, but I tend to read his stuff very skeptically if I read it at all.
As far as this article, it's a whole lot of speculation and I've given up trying to figure out where this Plame case is headed. It's certainly bigger than most media accounts are selling it, but I don't think Fitzgerald will have the goods to go much deeper than just Rove, Libby, and the reporters. |
10-22-2005, 09:38 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Raimondo
wikipedia article on raimondo. the association with buchanan is right, but not as was presented. and not only folk from "the left" opposed and still oppose bushwar--the illusion that opposition is constituted wholly from the left is one manufactured by the right apparatus for its own curious self-justifying ends.
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10-22-2005, 12:11 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Interesting, I didn't know he actually supported Buchanan politically.
I suppose it's wrong to call him a member of the "left", but it's probably wrong to say he's a member of the "right" either. Really, he's just what his site says, "anti-war" and nothing more. |
10-22-2005, 03:30 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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From his credentials it was obvious he was a Bucannanite
1920's isolationism, worked out well.
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10-22-2005, 05:02 PM | #8 (permalink) | |
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10-24-2005, 07:40 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Tec, the msp is finally chiming in. I would hope that the naysayers regarding a liberal source have more respect for United Press International.
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10-24-2005, 07:57 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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10-24-2005, 08:15 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
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10-24-2005, 08:46 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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If you are objecting to Truthout for the link, that seems a bit silly and/or arbitrary. If you haven't noticed, it is becoming more and more difficult to link the original publication due to subscription requirement fees and such. But just for you, Ustwo: http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...3-104217-9679r |
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10-25-2005, 12:09 AM | #15 (permalink) | |
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10-26-2005, 08:50 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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There has been speculation for some time that Rice or her office was involved in promoting the Niger forgeries. The Italian press claims a direct link to Stephen Hadley, her second in command. I have yet to find anything in the msp on this, but the timing of this meeting raises some red flags that I hope will be pursued.
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