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Old 07-21-2005, 01:57 PM   #81 (permalink)
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try it--you'll be made a fool of so fast your head will spin.
I suggest you tell that to Lynne Stewart. Oh, wait, she's in prison.
I suggest you tell that to Kifah Jayyousi. Oh, wait, he's being held without bond awaiting trial.
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Old 07-21-2005, 02:13 PM   #82 (permalink)
 
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i am not debating with you, moosenose.
i am not interested in your pseudo-legal arguments. they are worthless.
i am not interested in your hamfisted attempt to censor a debate.
it is annoying, like a bug that prevents you from sleeping at night buzzing around your ear.
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Old 07-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #83 (permalink)
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But that is NOT the standard that would be used in trying somebody for violating Article 3 § 3 of the US Constitution. The standard would be "do the statements qualify as "adhering to the enemy"", that is, providing them with moral support.
Every day I see more examples of the things RB talks about in terms of how some conservatives talk. A little shift here, a little nudge there. Or a wholesale ignoring of a point or distraction.

It's interesting how the snippet from the Constitution becomes "moral support" in the post of yours I quote here.

Also interesting if you look at the Constitution again:

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Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
We could certainly debate what "adhere" means in this context. And look at what Raider said. Respecting the Iraqis, which Raider does, is a distant relative to "moral support", which is a distanct relative to "adhere".

Oh yeah, then there is that last line from the Constitution. The one about "overt act". Is posting an opinion of respect an overt act to you?

I'd love to see Rehnquist, Thomas, Scalia and any other judges you would care to choose tear that apart.

But I, too, suspect you really know that.
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Old 07-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Well.

You gentlemen have tied quite the Gordian Knot in this thread.

Threats, counter threats, general name calling...the list goes on.

I'm locking this and bumping it over to the mod room to discuss what, if anything will be done.
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:26 PM   #85 (permalink)
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*UPDATE*

Well, after considerable discussion, for the good of the forum we've decided to ban two people based not only this thread, but on past threads as well.

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