05-21-2005, 02:28 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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The US against the UN
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the article raises a couple of good questions. Why are the Americans acting like everyone else had been involved, but not themselves? Is the american press and public really that numb not the see the US involement in the scandal? If afraid that this is true, all that will be rememberes is the "Fact" that the UN is corrupt, everything else will be forgotten. But what else can you expect? The US is happy to have started a war with deliberate false inteligence informations (upps, wrong link the correct one, but the difference is marginal .... )
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05-21-2005, 08:20 AM | #2 (permalink) | |
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ALL US companies involved in this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. No ifs, ands, or buts. |
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05-21-2005, 09:20 AM | #3 (permalink) |
undead
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The article doesn't blame Bush for the corruption, and neither do I, the articles blames him for now using this long known corruption as a way to discredit the UN and various european nations while completely ignoring the US own involemant.
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05-23-2005, 01:14 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Ummmm...correct me if I'm wrong here, but the corruption came NOT from the fact that oil was moving out of Iraq, but instead stemmed from the fact that Saddam was giving benefits to high up people in the UN and certain other governments in order to get them to oppose US policy regarding Iraq. In other words, they were being paid to sell the US AND the UN resolutions out.
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05-23-2005, 02:07 PM | #5 (permalink) | |
Cracking the Whip
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And unfortunately, the corruption went all the way to the top. Then there is the little matter of Saddam paying off the top officials in the French government as well as that very vocal British politician. Personally, I think the UN has suffered the fate of the League of Nations and should be simularly put to rest.
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05-23-2005, 02:39 PM | #6 (permalink) |
Pickles
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A revamp would be nice, to scrap the whole thing would be too much i think. The basic idea of the UN is a good one.. to have a forum where the countries of the world can talk things out instead of resorting to war, and the UN has done that. It is still run by humans, however, and we all know how naughty they can be at times. Still, a place to keep dialogue open is most required in this world, especially in this day and age.
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05-23-2005, 05:30 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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There is another reason to keep the UN that we must all remember....humor. Communist China on the Human Rights Commission???? |
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05-23-2005, 06:37 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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About the article - and intresting read. The simple fact is that accountability was never really a part of any political process. A party attempting to sort out coruption within its body will only give weapons to the oposition. As the party curently holding office in Canada found out. It's a political risk that holds no real benefit as far as gaining votes. So why bother? The weak get the blame and serve as a distraction for the sins of the strong.
Concerning the UN - it never had any real power. All primary resources for projects are sponsored by specific countries. These deals always come with strings attached. |
05-23-2005, 10:28 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
All important elusive independent swing voter...
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What's next? Arab League chairing the Association for Religious Tolerance? How about North Korea as the head of the IAEA? |
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