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LINKY

This is amazing to me. Let's see, this asshole's international affairs probably only included getting his dick sucked by a chic that wasn't American. He's a fucking joke, and I can't belive that people even listen to him or his obviously retarded wife. How can anyone respect a woman who married a man that cheated on her, lied to her, and everyone in the country that he was the president of. Then the best part. She didn't divorce him. Proving that she is a complete moron. Just shows how fucking stupid people are.

oane

Mister Clinton seems to have a valid point.

Aside: I too can't stand his dumb wife.

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sixate

Kinda funny how two people have a totally opposite view. I don't think Mr. Clinton has ever had a valid point.

MrSmashy

Its still unclear how attacking Iraq did anything against terror. There is far more evidence that those within the administration who were for attacking Iraq a lot earlier for a number of different reasons managed to push that agenda and maniuplate it into becoming part of the 'war on terror.'

4thTimeLucky

It's really sad how Clinton did a lot of good things during his Presidency and has a lot of sensible things to say after it, but because of his stupid misogyny he's discounted it all to nought.

Never has so much political capital been lost for so little.

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nine

Er, in terms of an International Stateman, Clinton was one of your best. Remember his involvement in the Northern Ireland conflict and the Israeli/Palistinian conflict. On the latter he came so close to resolving things. Now it looks like Bush could fuck it all up

boatin

Hyperbole anyone? Depending upon your view, this is either insulting to the retarded, or to the Clintons. Either way...

This comment makes much more sense to me:

I do get tired of hearing this aspect of Clinton's idiocy eradicating all other aspects (the good, the questionable and the bad) of his Presidency.

If Bush were a democrat, it seems much more would have been made of his "military record" than was made. Don't know why that is, but my point is that probably every president has lied about personal shit.

Good link though. thanks.

The_Dude

i agree w/ those statements.

"We can't run," Clinton pointed out. "If you got an interdependent world, and you cannot kill, jail or occupy all your adversaries, sooner or later you have to make a deal."


if you find somebody that disagrees w/ you, the next thing you do is NOT threaten military action.

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druptight

I agree with Clinton here. I do not always agree with him, but what he's saying is more or less how i feel. And the war for our prosperity, scares me...

BigBlueWrecking

A few points...

Correct me if I am wrong, but the terrorist training grounds found in Iraq were located in the Kurdish controlled Northern Iraq were they not? There is very little evidence to support that Hussein himself was funding or supporting terrorists.

What gets me with all of this is the complete hypocrisy we show towards some countries. North Korea poses a greater threat to the US soil AND has broken several resolutions as well. The Saudis have done more to support terrorism than any other country, but we don't raise an eyebrow.

The_Dude

whoa! by terrorist u mean palestianian "terrorists" right?

there's a SHITLOAD of KNOWN terrorist training camps in pakistan btw.

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sixate

My view is by the actions of the Clintons in their personal lives they have insulted themselves for having no respect for themselves, and I'm simply amazed why anyone would support their weak asses.

The_Dude

clinton's are my liberal heroes

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sixate

So you like presidents that lie to their people and you like the fact that Bill married a weak pathetic woman who didn't leave after he lied to her, cheated on her, and discraced his entire family. He needed to act more like a president than a damn drunk stoned hippie getting blowjobs in the office.

All I can say is. I'm happy as hell that I'm not a liberal.

The_Dude

i dont give a damn what somebody says about their personal life.

it's their business, not mine.

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maximusveritas

Is that supposed to be an insult?
Seriously though, I have very little respect for Bill Clinton and certainly not just because of the sex scandal.

darksparkles

agreed.

especially on the tax cut issue - i mean, come on.

and as far as the cheating thing goes - jfk is still regarded as a good president, and look how many people he slept with. he did a hell of a lot more than getting head from an intern.

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Phaenx

I find it funny that people screech about how Bush was AWOL (from the national guard) during vietnam, and don't mention this guy ran to Canada during the draft.

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Phaenx

Oh it is everyones business when the guy representing the other 250 million people in our country royally fucks something up, morally or otherwise. You need to intimately know a person to entrust them with the responsibility of being the most powerful man on Earth.

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Dragonlich

Sorry Sixate, but I totally disagree with you on this. Clinton is seen as one of the best US President in recent history by most foreign people. Clinton did a lot of good things, both for the US and the world.

You seem to imply that no matter what good he did, as long as he had his dick sucked and lied about it, he must be a moron, to be ignored forever. His wife must obviously be stupid, because she stays with him, whereas other people with marital problems are always encouraged to talk it over, and stay together "for the sake of the children". Did it ever occur to you that Hillary might have *chosen* to stay with Bill because it was good for her career? That she might be smart enough to see that being married to an ex-President is better for your future than being the ex-wife of an ex-President?

And what about the fact that tons of US presidents have cheated on their wives? This has never been a problem before Clinton... kinda hypocrytical, isn't it? Makes you wonder if there was some sort of political motivation behind the whole episode - say the Republicans wanting to get rid of a Democratic president. But it's not like they had wanted to impeach him for this incident, had they? Oh, wait...

I think you're underestimating the Clintons, just like a lot of people underestimate Bush. You don't become a President by being stupid - it takes a lot of intelligence and political insight.

And actually, I think Clinton's quote is rather good - it's intelligent and obviously correct.

Nad Adam

Yeah, what Dragonlich said.

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sixate

I couldn't disagree with somebody more on a topic.

sixate

I hope you never have a family cause if you think that doesn't matter then I'm sure you'd be a liar and a cheater too. I bet if you had a family they would care about that stuff, wouldn't they? Unless you found a lame pathetic woman like Hillary then I guess it wouldn't matter. So maybe you'll do just fine.

Daval

I like Clintons politics and political style a lot. I agree with most of what he did in office.

I do not respect however his sexual problems and the farce that their marriage had become.

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Macheath

I would suggest that it's usually Limbaugh style conservative chicken hawks who screech loudest about military records - lefties just screech in reply to expose their opponents' hypocricy.

Nad Adam

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james t kirk

Clinton is absolutly correct.

It takes a lot of money to run an empire.

Here's something to think about too.......

If Clinton could run again, he would defeat Bush in an instant. Sex scandle and all, he would burn Bush to a cinder.

Clinton's only mistake in office was his CHOICE in women, not the fact that he had affairs. What was he thinking with that chick.

BoCo

He did, but he stuck it in Monica's mouth.

Clinton is just jealous that two Republicans, both Bush's, both surrounding his own term, freed 3 countries between them and have done more for the world than Clinton ever could. Also, he's trying to help Hellary with her campaign once he decides to run.

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Dragonlich

Hey Boco... did you forget about the whole peace thing in Bosnia, the liberation of Kosovo, almost having peace in the middle-east, bombing Iraq for not cooperating with the UN, encouraging peace in Ireland... you know, things that happened during Clinton's years in office?

Selective memory is nice, isn't it?

splck

Agree with Clinton on this.

Some people care way too much about other people's sex life.

The_Dude

i just dont get the deal.....

y'all have no other dirt on clinton than his sex deal.


IT'S HIS PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR GOD'S SAKES!

we're supposed to judge his performance in presidency, NOT what the hell he does in bed!

did having his dick sucked effect his job doings?

it's his PRIVATE life!

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sixate

He lied and cheated to his own damn family do you really think he didn't lie to me and you? I mean, shouldn't his family be # 1 priority. If they meant fucking nothing to him then where does that leave you? He's a worthless pile of you know what. I swear he should make his own little cult. There's all kind of people that would follow that mindless man around and do anything that he said no matter how stupid it may be.

Phaenx

It's his personality. The same kind of guy that steals candy from a baby and mugs people is the same kind of guy that's going to steal money from tax payers and nuke everyone. These are things we have to know, they aren't minute details of someones "private life." They are important factors in accurately describing a persons personality. We both need and want to know these things so we can vote in, or kick out any crazies or irresponsible leaders trying to gain power.

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JoeReckless

Clinton blasts another load in to some fat girl's throat.

Dragonlich

I know a lot of anti-Clinton people won't agree, but anyway...

It is my understanding that a LOT of people cheat on their wifes and lie about it. Of course, I don't have percentages, but it's out there. People do it all the time, some are just more exposed to outside attention. If loads of people do it, why is it only bad when Clinton did it? It does *not* say anything about his performance as a President, and I don't agree with Phaenx that it is somehow related to a bad personality.

People cheat, people lie about it, and life goes on. It's called "human nature", you know. But then again, I don't think sex is bad, nor that Presidents should be asked in court if they cheated on their wife. I mean, if you think such things are important, what about the reported cocaine use by Bush? Isn't that worse?

boatin

Awww, I thought you disagreed with me more than anyone else.

sixate

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll say something that I won't agree with very soon.

MSD

Don't mention it? On the contrary, I can't seem to find many conservatives who won't shut the hell up about it.


And I'd also like to point out that the military that is fighting for us is what was maintained and built up by Clinton. We haven't seen much of anything from those companies that Bush threw money at after 9/11.

And as far as Clinton not doing as much, he never invaded another country in blatant violation of international law. I can think of a certain curernt president who has.

Dragonlich

Hmm... tell that to the Serbian people.

The war in Kosovo wasn't sanctioned by the UN, you know. Technically, it was a violation of international law.
(As were the bombings of Sudan and Afghanistan, by the way)

f00sion

You are ignorant if you don't know that every president in history has lied about certain things... and it is interesting that nobody has come up with a response to the observation about JFK and many other presidents that have not been faithful to their wives. We also shouldn't forget about some personal problems of the current pres. drinking, driving, cocaine, cheerleading? Not family values that I want to have taught to my kids! Do these things automatically void any achievements he has ever made? Of course not, stop being mental.