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Old 03-01-2005, 08:38 PM   #41 (permalink)
All important elusive independent swing voter...
 
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Oh, ok. Cool. It just sounded...weird. Like something happened...

Um, is that Treebeard in your avatar?
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:39 PM   #42 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
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But you'll still post, yes?
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:39 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Just to clarify,

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I personally appreciate the hard hard work tecoyah has done in here (a place where many fear to tread) and I don't begrudge him any break he decides he needs.
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:59 PM   #44 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
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I'd never begrudge him at all. I don't know the meaning of the word! So I'll look it up....To envy the possession or enjoyment of. Hmmm. Yeah, I'd never begrudge Tecoyah. I understand him needing a brake from keeping an eye on this madhouse.
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Nothing happened....shift change in moderation....Lebel is your contact
Now I'm screwed!
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:55 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:46 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I personally think that some folks fail to see that not agreeing with an argument is not the same as not understanding it.
bravo.

however, i think the driving factor behind most of the vitriol is the mistaken idea that we're all after the same thing. sometimes it is assumed by both sides of a discussion that all are working towards the same end-state. this is untrue and is a fruitless (dangerous?) premise on which to ground a debate.

another thing that i've come to realize is that not everyone wants successes/victories/justice etc. there are some who, for whatever personal reason, don't want anything good in life. there are people who embrace fear, people who manufacture shame, people who feel entitled to things they did not earn, people who sneer at those who are better and want nothing else but to bring them low, people who exploit the misery of others.

now, i know that disagreement with my own views does not place a person into one of those boxes. i don't equate difference of opinion with such dreadful things... but i do recognize that there are people who do fit such an awful description. i have met people with whom i can find no common ground simply because they desire nothing more than an end to their own miserable existence and the abolition of joy for anyone else.
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Old 03-06-2005, 08:10 AM   #48 (permalink)
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bravo.

however, i think the driving factor behind most of the vitriol is the mistaken idea that we're all after the same thing. sometimes it is assumed by both sides of a discussion that all are working towards the same end-state. this is untrue and is a fruitless (dangerous?) premise on which to ground a debate.

another thing that i've come to realize is that not everyone wants successes/victories/justice etc. there are some who, for whatever personal reason, don't want anything good in life. there are people who embrace fear, people who manufacture shame, people who feel entitled to things they did not earn, people who sneer at those who are better and want nothing else but to bring them low, people who exploit the misery of others.

now, i know that disagreement with my own views does not place a person into one of those boxes. i don't equate difference of opinion with such dreadful things... but i do recognize that there are people who do fit such an awful description. i have met people with whom i can find no common ground simply because they desire nothing more than an end to their own miserable existence and the abolition of joy for anyone else.
Can you hear my applause from where you are?

As I've said before, I see no reason to talk to a person who thinks he or she is freely entitled to the labor of others.
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