stevo22 is absolutely correct. Its really as clear as day.

Mindboggling...
Please stop with the moral equivalency to terrorists. All these semantics about whether this was or wasn't a war crime are insane. What happened to that motherfucker in the mosque is no war crime. What do you think he was doing in that mosque in the middle of a warzone? Praying? Sweeping the floor? Watering the plants? Dusting off Qurans? Is it instead possible he was actually fighting and trying to kill US troops? Over 1100 insurgent killer rats were exterminated in this campaign; should we now have lawyers with briefcases and flak jacks embedded with the troops to verify the legality of each and every casualty? Madness.

The guy was an enemy combatant, plain and simple. He had weeks of warning to lay down his arms and stop fighting. He chose to stay and fight. He was killed in combat. It doesn't matter how. This is War. End of story.

WTF?
are you actually reading some of the articles?
he was left there by the mariens a day before! already captured and injured

i continue to find it strange that the question of this campaign has been diverted onto this footage. while i agree that it appears to be a war crime, that appearance comes with all the limits/problems of any footage--it isolates particular sequences of events from what preceded and conditioned them, so you are in a position of not really knowing what you are seeing even as it unfolds in front of you.

remember the rodney king case? the defense argument that king adopted "the bullet posture" as he was getting the shit beat out of him? that "bullet posture" was read a threatening--only possible in the context of film-world.

the bigger question is about the campaign itself--what i posted above remains unaddressed here and a problem insofar as making judgements from press accounts is concerned. but the "battle of fallujah" seems to have been less than a ringing success, insofar as "crushing the insurgents" is concerned....

Exactly...

He might have been injured, but not captured.

Before I have an aneurysm, or get a triple-lifetime ban, I'll just say this: Let's just agree to disagree here, and move on.

Incorrect. The 'battle of fallujah' was an overwhelmingly successful miltary campaign any way you look at it. This could have been a bloodbath of American casualties (see: Grozny). It was planned by the world's most intelligent and experienced battle commanders, employing the most technologically advanced weaponry every used on a battlefield. It took one week, ONE WEEK!!, to take back Fallujah from the insurgents. It was a skilled, disciplined, comprehensive victory, looking at it from an historic viewpoint.

The problem now is ENTIRLEY a political one; proper governance and security of the city are the main questions. I think the Americans could learn a thing or two from the British about diplomacy, civil affairs, and post-combat operations, where they have failed miserably in my opinion. The Americans have continually shown their adeptness at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. Like I said, its one step forward, 2 steps back. If they continue to be unable to consolidate their military victories into political progress, then civil war is inevitable.

doubledoubledoubledoubledoubledouble

only problem with your interpretation, powerclown, is that it seems that the major force of insurgents that was anticipated was not really there, not in anything like the force that was marketed. so, it that's true, then......

There's no problem with my interpretation, roachboy, the problem of interpretation is yours. There were 1200 insurgents reported killed. The objective was to take control of the city out of the hands of the bad guys, and into the hands of the Iraqi security forces. This objective was completed successfully, and it took all of 1 week. These insurgent clowns, fighting in sandals and warm-up suits, crumbled in less than 7 days. And this was their 'stronghold'.

Again, the solution isn't military, obviously. These bugs can be squashed wherever, whenever. The fight is for the approval of the Iraqi citizens. They don't seem to know what the hell they want, and completely unneccesary garbage (probably aired with the approval of anti-Bush TV execs) like the Sites video only makes things worse, or better, depending how you look at it.

If some over 18 wants to fight, then he should be able to make that choice. But I also believe that a person cannot be forced to fight, i.e. a draft, even in defending his country. If he doesn't want to fight, and he ends up losing his liberty, then he should simply receive the consequences of his actions (or inaction).

what the fuck is an insurgent anyway? seems to cover a lot of different ground here. Kind of catch all name meaning any human not in US "coalition" fatigues.

You sound like you swallowed the president.

He accused kerry of being stuck in a pre-9/11 mindset, yet he was the one stuck in the past.

His inability to connect the realities of fighting a decentralized enemy plays out in the media, which amplifies his message, and settles in your mind as an objective fact.


The reason why both Iraq and Fallujah were pieces of cake are because there is no centralized command. There is no stronghold. The fighters melted away again. That is failure in this type of war. Especially if you hinge victory on the notion of winning hearts and minds of people.

Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians are being killed by direct military action and indirectly due to the disruption to the cities. These events in no rational universe equate to victory.

What exactly is going on with the interim goverrnment? The top people are resigning and elections are nowhere on the horizon--aren't they supposed to be happening in a few weeks? It's sickening that those people's offices are being raided and the people disappearing and harassed by our government (oh, scratch that, by other governments that we fly them to).

First of all, Bush isn't on the ground planning the fighting. His commanders are. And they understand fully the nature of this insurgency. And as far as the media reporting the situation, they've done just about everything they can do to portray this in a negative light. So when you say that Bush can't understand how to fight a decentralized insurgency, I would say, yeah maybe he can't personally, but his generals can. And they're doing it, slowly. The strategic victory of Fallujah was the removal of one more place for them to hide. And it absolutely was an insurgent stronghold, a sanctuary, a rallying point, a financial hub, a waystation for traveling bandits, a philosophical center, a resting place, an ammo dump, a command and control base, on and on. Iraq doesn't have too many big cities where these roaches can find sanctuary. Now they have one less place. And pretty soon they won't have anywhere else to hide.

You want to know who the mindless killers of Iraqi civilians are? The fanatical Iraqi suicide bombers who kill 20-30-40 fellow Iraqis at a time every other day by driving carbombs into crowds of civilians. I think you'd find it quite enlightening to read about the extent to which US forces go out of their way to avoid civilians casualties. I know I did.

As far as elections go, they're on schedule. If you are referring to Chalabi as the one whose house was raided, well too bad for him, the rumor was that he was running his mouth to the Iranians, so now he's out and Allawi is Interim Prime Minister.

So far from the original topic, but still a lively exchange of ideas....
I believe that the following quote is in keeping with the quote above, but....
If you believe, as I do, in what Moore scripted above, in Farenheit 9/11, and
in Lincoln's premise that we cannot permit the dead who sacrificed their
all to preserve their country, to ever "die in vain", what do we say to the families of the dead and
the wounded in Bushco's "war of choice", and, a more pressing matter, to
those Bush and Rumsfeld order to fight "to bring freedom to the Iraqi people",
in the coming days.....and months.....and years......

What the fuck are our leaders ordering are troops to fight and die for?
Is another U.S. casualty in Iraq "absolutely necessary", or worth the cost?
God bless the fallen U.S. soldiers and the Iraqi non-combatants in Fallujah.
Investigate and prosecute Americans and foreigners who conspire to wage <br>illegal military acts of aggression, and who commit war crimes. If our
appointed leaders do not act legally, morally, and forthrightly, as citizens,
we have no obligation to support them in their immorality, deceipt, and
aggression. Supporting these leaders is not patriotic. Protesting and resisting
their criminality is the highest form of patriotism that an American can
aspire to, and it is the only way to insure that our troops do not die in vain.

So, we're back to "Treason is Patriotic!" as an ideal to sell our Youth. It was tried by Kerry, and look at where that got him...

daswig, I hope that you are not awake at this hour because you are in
too much discomfort to sleep. I wish that you could recognize what is so
obvious to me. The Bushco have sent our wonderful, dedicated troops to
fight, suffer, and sometimes die in a place that is not absolutely necessary
for them to be fighting in, and for reasons that are less justified each time
they morph and wilt in the face of the facts.

Funny Clinton lied about a blow job, hurting absolutely noone but himself and his family the GOP were ready to hang him. And noone complained about the GOP being unpatriotic or treasonous.

W lies about the reason for war resulting in 1000's of deaths and wounded and billions of our tax dollars going over there, and if anyone says anything against him it's treason.

Sorry I grew up in an America where IT IS MY RIGHT to call the president a liar and to ask for or support those asking for a special counsel investigation.

It is also my right to question a war feeding Haliburton's wallet.

It is noone's right to attack me for saying what I believe to be true. You can attack my ideas and debate what I say, but no man has the right to attack and condemn another as a traitor or "unpatriotic" for exercising his rights. That would be very Fascist or Communistic....

Sorry, but you're 100% WRONG. You have a right to spout whatever sophomoric bullshit your heart desires. And I have a right to call "bullshit" on it. Your freedom of speech doesn't allow you to say whatever you want without criticism from others. Democrats seem to have a very hard time with this concept. If you're the Dixie Chicks, you have a right to say whatever you want, and the people who buy your music have the right to tell you to "get fucked" and refuse to buy your music in response. That's not censorship, that's the FREE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS. The sooner the left gets away from the whole "free speech for me, but none for thee" bit, the sooner they'll stop being percieved as whiny little losers.

I'd like to point out one little thing to you. Once upon a time, there were a couple who lived in the US, and thought that "freedom of speech" and "freedom of conscience" made it OK for them to pass highly classified information to the Soviet Union, so, being good little leftists, they did so, putting the lives of all Americans in danger. They got caught. Oops. Care to wager a guess as to what happened to them? Think "gas chamber". And you know what? They deserved it, because their actions put us ALL at risk. Some leftists today need to have the same exact thing happen to them....for instance, people like these: http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/image...st_photo02.gif should have been arrested, tried for giving aid and comfort to the enemy along with sedition, and upon their conviction, they should have been executed after due process of law. Or, remember that guy who rolled the grenade into his unit's CP right before GulfwarII started? He's another candidate for an involuntary overdose.

Yes, we are all aware of your murderous fantasies by now.

The difference between your version of events with the facts is that physically threatening someone is not an appropriate method to convey dissent.

Intimidating or even threatening someone, as the Dixie Chics were, is not expressing ideas, it's barbaric and completely expected from someone like you who prefers violence to discussion.

Usually you quip back with war is peace or peace through war or something like that.

I suggest you reread my post, and notice where I stated the "due process of law" bit. That's not threatening somebody, that's saying the law should be enforced, by the people who we pay to enforce the law.

Well, okay. If you say so.

http://www.techcentralstation.com/092503F.html


The Iraq -- Al Qaeda Connections
By Richard Miniter

Every day it seems another American soldier is killed in Iraq. These grim statistics have become a favorite of network news anchors and political chat show hosts. Nevermind that they mix deaths from accidents with actual battlefield casualties; or that the average is actually closer to one American death for every two days; or that enemy deaths far outnumber ours. What matters is the overall impression of mounting, pointless deaths.
That is why is important to remember why we fight in Iraq -- and who we fight. Indeed, many of those sniping at U.S. troops are al Qaeda terrorists operating inside Iraq. And many of bin Laden's men were in Iraq prior to the liberation. A wealth of evidence on the public record -- from government reports and congressional testimony to news accounts from major newspapers -- attests to longstanding ties between bin Laden and Saddam going back to 1994.
Those who try to whitewash Saddam's record don't dispute this evidence; they just ignore it. So let's review the evidence, all of it on the public record for months or years:

* Abdul Rahman Yasin was the only member of the al Qaeda cell that detonated the 1993 World Trade Center bomb to remain at large in the Clinton years. He fled to Iraq. U.S. forces recently discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show that Iraq gave Mr. Yasin both a house and monthly salary.
* Bin Laden met at least eight times with officers of Iraq's Special Security Organization, a secret police agency run by Saddam's son Qusay, and met with officials from Saddam's mukhabarat, its external intelligence service, according to intelligence made public by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who was speaking before the United Nations Security Council on February 6, 2003.
* Sudanese intelligence officials told me that their agents had observed meetings between Iraqi intelligence agents and bin Laden starting in 1994, when bin Laden lived in Khartoum.
* Bin Laden met the director of the Iraqi mukhabarat in 1996 in Khartoum, according to Mr. Powell.
* An al Qaeda operative now held by the U.S. confessed that in the mid-1990s, bin Laden had forged an agreement with Saddam's men to cease all terrorist activities against the Iraqi dictator, Mr. Powell told the United Nations.
* In 1999 the Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that Farouk Hijazi, a senior officer in Iraq's mukhabarat, had journeyed deep into the icy mountains near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 1998 to meet with al Qaeda men. Mr. Hijazi is "thought to have offered bin Laden asylum in Iraq," the Guardian reported.
* In October 2000, another Iraqi intelligence operative, Salah Suleiman, was arrested near the Afghan border by Pakistani authorities, according to Jane's Foreign Report, a respected international newsletter. Jane's reported that Suleiman was shuttling between Iraqi intelligence and Ayman al Zawahiri, now al Qaeda's No. 2 man.
(Why are all of those meetings significant? The London Observer reports that FBI investigators cite a captured al Qaeda field manual in Afghanistan, which "emphasizes the value of conducting discussions about pending terrorist attacks face to face, rather than by electronic means.")
* As recently as 2001, Iraq's embassy in Pakistan was used as a "liaison" between the Iraqi dictator and al Qaeda, Mr. Powell told the United Nations.
* Spanish investigators have uncovered documents seized from Yusuf Galan -- who is charged by a Spanish court with being "directly involved with the preparation and planning" of the Sept. 11 attacks -- that show the terrorist was invited to a party at the Iraqi embassy in Madrid. The invitation used his "al Qaeda nom de guerre," London's Independent reports.
* An Iraqi defector to Turkey, known by his cover name as "Abu Mohammed," told Gwynne Roberts of the Sunday Times of London that he saw bin Laden's fighters in camps in Iraq in 1997. At the time, Mohammed was a colonel in Saddam's Fedayeen. He described an encounter at Salman Pak, the training facility southeast of Baghdad. At that vast compound run by Iraqi intelligence, Muslim militants trained to hijack planes with knives -- on a full-size Boeing 707. Col. Mohammed recalls his first visit to Salman Pak this way: "We were met by Colonel Jamil Kamil, the camp manager, and Major Ali Hawas. I noticed that a lot of people were queuing for food. (The major) said to me: 'You'll have nothing to do with these people. They are Osama bin Laden's group and the PKK and Mojahedin-e Khalq.'"
* In 1998, Abbas al-Janabi, a longtime aide to Saddam's son Uday, defected to the West. At the time, he repeatedly told reporters that there was a direct connection between Iraq and al Qaeda.
*The Sunday Times found a Saddam loyalist in a Kurdish prison who claims to have been Dr. Zawahiri's bodyguard during his 1992 visit with Saddam in Baghdad. Dr. Zawahiri was a close associate of bin Laden at the time and was present at the founding of al Qaeda in 1989.
* Following the defeat of the Taliban, almost two dozen bin Laden associates "converged on Baghdad and established a base of operations there," Mr. Powell told the United Nations in February 2003. From their Baghdad base, the secretary said, they supervised the movement of men, materiel and money for al Qaeda's global network.
* In 2001, an al Qaeda member "bragged that the situation in Iraq was 'good,'" according to intelligence made public by Mr. Powell.
* That same year, Saudi Arabian border guards arrested two al Qaeda members entering the kingdom from Iraq.
* Abu Musaab al-Zarqawi oversaw an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, Mr. Powell told the United Nations. His specialty was poisons. Wounded in fighting with U.S. forces, he sought medical treatment in Baghdad in May 2002. When Zarqawi recovered, he restarted a training camp in northern Iraq. Zarqawi's Iraq cell was later tied to theOctober 2002 murder of Lawrence Foley, an official of the U.S. Agency for International Development, in Amman, Jordan. The captured assassin confessed that he received orders and funds from Zarqawi's cell in Iraq, Mr. Powell said. His accomplice escaped to Iraq.
*Zarqawi met with military chief of al Qaeda, Mohammed Ibrahim Makwai (aka Saif al-Adel) in Iran in February 2003, according to intelligence sources cited by the Washington Post.
* Mohammad Atef, the head of al Qaeda's military wing until the U.S. killed him in Afghanistan in November 2001, told a senior al Qaeda member now in U.S. custody that the terror network needed labs outside of Afghanistan to manufacture chemical weapons, Mr. Powell said. "Where did they go, where did they look?" said the secretary. "They went to Iraq."
* Abu Abdullah al-Iraqi was sent to Iraq by bin Laden to purchase poison gases several times between 1997 and 2000. He called his relationship with Saddam's regime "successful," Mr. Powell told the United Nations.
* Mohamed Mansour Shahab, a smuggler hired by Iraq to transport weapons to bin Laden in Afghanistan, was arrested by anti-Hussein Kurdish forces in May, 2000. He later told his story to American intelligence and a reporter for the New Yorker magazine.
* Documents found among the debris of the Iraqi Intelligence Center show that Baghdad funded the Allied Democratic Forces, a Ugandan terror group led by an Islamist cleric linked to bin Laden. According to a London's Daily Telegraph, the organization offered to recruit "youth to train for the jihad" at a "headquarters for international holy warrior network" to be established in Baghdad.
* Mullah Melan Krekar, ran a terror group (the Ansar al-Islam) linked to both bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Mr. Krekar admitted to a Kurdish newspaper that he met bin Laden in Afghanistan and other senior al Qaeda officials. His acknowledged meetings with bin Laden go back to 1988. When he organized Ansar al Islam in 2001 to conduct suicide attacks on Americans, "three bin Laden operatives showed up with a gift of $300,000 'to undertake jihad,'" Newsday reported. Mr. Krekar is now in custody in the Netherlands. His group operated in portion of northern Iraq loyal to Saddam Hussein -- and attacked independent Kurdish groups hostile to Saddam. A spokesman for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan told a United Press International correspondent that Mr. Krekar's group was funded by "Saddam Hussein's regime in Baghdad."
* After October 2001, hundreds of al Qaeda fighters are believed to have holed up in the Ansar al-Islam's strongholds inside northern Iraq.
Some skeptics dismiss the emerging evidence of a longstanding link between Iraq and al Qaeda by contending that Saddam ran a secular dictatorship hated by Islamists like bin Laden.
In fact, there are plenty of "Stalin-Roosevelt" partnerships between international terrorists and Muslim dictators. Saddam and bin Laden had common enemies, common purposes and interlocking needs. They shared a powerful hate for America and the Saudi royal family. They both saw the Gulf War as a turning point. Saddam suffered a crushing defeat which he had repeatedly vowed to avenge. Bin Laden regards the U.S. as guilty of war crimes against Iraqis and believes that non-Muslims shouldn't have military bases on the holy sands of Arabia. Al Qaeda's avowed goal for the past ten years has been the removal of American forces from Saudi Arabia, where they stood in harm's way solely to contain Saddam.
The most compelling reason for bin Laden to work with Saddam is money. Al Qaeda operatives have testified in federal courts that the terror network was always desperate for cash. Senior employees fought bitterly about the $100 difference in pay between Egyptian and Saudis (the Egyptians made more). One al Qaeda member, who was connected to the 1998 embassy bombings, told a U.S. federal court how bitter he was that bin Laden could not pay for his pregnant wife to see a doctor.
Bin Laden's personal wealth alone simply is not enough to support a profligate global organization. Besides, bin Laden's fortune is probably not as large as some imagine. Informed estimates put bin Laden's pre-Sept. 11, 2001 wealth at perhaps $30 million. $30 million is the budget of a small school district, not a global terror conglomerate. Meanwhile, Forbes estimated Saddam's personal fortune at $2 billion.
So a common enemy, a shared goal and powerful need for cash seem to have forged an alliance between Saddam and bin Laden. CIA Director George Tenet recently told the Senate Intelligence Committee: "Iraq has in the past provided training in document forgery and bomb making to al Qaeda. It also provided training in poisons and gasses to two al Qaeda associates; one of these [al Qaeda] associates characterized the relationship as successful. Mr. Chairman, this information is based on a solid foundation of intelligence. It comes to us from credible and reliable sources. Much of it is corroborated by multiple sources."
The Iraqis, who had the Third World's largest poison-gas operations prior to the Gulf War I, have perfected the technique of making hydrogen-cyanide gas, which the Nazis called Zyklon-B. In the hands of al Qaeda, this would be a fearsome weapon in an enclosed space -- like a suburban mall or subway station.

That's the most rational post I've seen on the subject. It was starting to look like each of our soldiers should have been issued their own lawyer.

Just heard on the news that some insurgents waved a white flag, then opened fire on our troops.

Can't wait to hear how our threadmates who know all about war are going to solve that one.

"What about the millions of Iraqi's who have their lives disrupted and threatened now because we want to draw all the "terrorists" in to one place to fight them" What about the standard of life that these same Iraqis were enjoying under their last "leader"? How about brides being raped by government goons on their wedding night? Or what about random people being pulled off the streets and killed for no reason other than to satisfy some madmans bloodlust? There is an very interestin article in this months Playboy. It is about how people are trying to get social events back on track in Iraq. The Iraqi buisness man they interview says something like "People think there is more killing in Iraq now then when Saddam was in power, the truth is there is far less killing now, just more reporters." People (especially the media) tend to focus on the negative. If one watches the news at night, one never hears about all the new infrastructure that was built, or how Shi'ites and Sunni's can practice their faith in relative peace. We only see that some some insurgents are killing people and anarchy reigns. :/

A letter from a Marine fighting in Fallujah, sent to his dad. It chronicles first hand the combat taking place:
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Dear Dad -

Just came out of the city and I honestly do not know where to start. I am afraid that whatever I send you will not do sufficient honor to the men who fought and took Fallujah.

Shortly before the attack, Task Force Fallujah was built. It consisted of Regimental Combat Team 1 built around 1st Marine Regiment and Regimental Combat Team 7 built around 7th Marine Regiment. Each Regiment consisted of two Marine Rifle Battalions reinforced and one Army mechanized infantry battalion.

Regimental Combat Team 1 (RCT-1) consisted of 3rd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion (3rd LAR), 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines (3/5); 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines (3/1)and 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry (2/7). RCT-7 was slightly less weighted but still a formidable force. Cutting a swath around the city was an Army Brigade known as Blackjack. The Marine RCT's were to assault the city while Blackjack kept the enemy off of the backs of the assault force.

The night prior to the actual invasion, we all moved out into the desert just north of the city. It was something to see. You could just feel the intensity in the Marines and Soldiers. It was all business. As the day cleared, the Task Force began striking targets and moving into final attack positions. As the invasion force commenced its movement into attack positions, 3rd LAR led off RCT-1's offensive with an attack up a peninsula formed by the Euphrates River on the west side of the city. Their mission was to secure the Fallujah Hospital and the two bridges leading out of the city. They executed there tasks like clockwork and smashed the enemy resistance holding the bridges. Simultaneous to all of this, Blackjack sealed the escape routes to the south of the city. As invasion day dawned, the net was around the city and the Marines and Soldiers knew that the enemy that failed to escape was now sealed.

3/5 began the actual attack on the city by taking an apartment complex on the northwest corner of the city. It was key terrain as the elevated positions allowed the command to look down into the attack lanes. The Marines took the apartments quickly and moved to the rooftops and began engaging enemy that were trying to move into their fighting positions. The scene on the rooftop was surreal. Machine gun teams were running boxes of ammo up 8 flights of stairs in full body armor and carrying up machine guns while snipers engaged enemy shooters. The whole time the enemy was firing mortars and rockets at the apartments. Honest to God, I don't think I saw a single Marine even distracted by the enemy fire. Their squad leaders, and platoon commanders had them prepared and they were executing their assigned tasks.

As mentioned, 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry joined the Regiment just prior to the fight. In fact, they started showing up for planning a couple of weeks in advance. There is always a professional rivalry between the Army and the Marine Corps but it was obvious from the outset that these guys were the real deal. They had fought in Najaf and were eager to fight with the Regiment in Fallujah. They are exceptionally well led and supremely confident.

2/7 became our wedge. In short, they worked with 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines. We were limited in the amount of prep fires that we were allowed to fire on the city prior to the invasion. This was a point of some consternation to the forces actually taking the city. Our compensation was to turn to 2/7 and ask them to slash into the city and create as much turbulence as possible for 3/1 to follow. Because of the political reality, the Marine Corps was also under pressure to "get it done quickly." For this reason, 2/7 and 3/1 became the penetration force into the city.

Immediately following 3/5's attack on the apartment buildings, 3/1 took the train station on the north end of the city. While the engineers blew a breach through the train trestle, the Cavalry soldiers poured through with their tanks and Bradley's and chewed an opening in the enemy defense. 3/1 followed them through until they reached a phase[line deep into the northern half of the city. The Marine infantry along with a few tanks then turned to the right and attacked the heart of the enemy defense. The fighting was tough as the enemy had the area dialed in with mortars. 3/5 then attacked into the northwest corner of the city. This fight continued as both Marine rifle battalions clawed their way into the city on different axis.

There is an image burned into my brain that I hope I never forget. We came up behind 3/5 one day as the lead squads were working down the Byzantine streets of the Jolan area. An assault team of two Marines ran out from behind cover and put a rocket into a wall of an enemy strongpoint. Before the smoke cleared the squad behind them was up and moving through the hole and clearing the house. Just down the block another squad was doing the same thing. The house was cleared quickly and the Marines were running down the street to the next contact. Even in the midst of that mayhem, it was an awesome site.

The fighting has been incredibly close inside the city. The enemy is willing to die and is literally waiting until they see the whites of the eyes of the Marines before they open up. Just two days ago, as a firefight raged in close quarters, one of the interpreters yelled for the enemy in the house to surrender. The enemy yelled back that it was better to die and go to heaven than to surrender to infidels. This exchange is a graphic window into the world that the Marines and Soldiers have been fighting in these last 10 days.

I could go on and on about how the city was taken but one of the most amazing aspects to the fighting was that we saw virtually no civilians during the battle. Only after the fighting had passed did a few come out of their homes. They were provided food and water and most were evacuated out of the city. At least 90-95% of the people were gone from the city when we attacked.

I will end with a couple of stories of individual heroism that you may not have heard yet. I was told about both of these incidents shortly after they occurred. No doubt some of the facts will change slightly but I am confident that the meat is correct.

The first is a Marine from 3/5. His name is Corporal Yeager (Chuck Yeager's grandson). As the Marines cleared and apartment building, they got to the top floor and the point man kicked in the door. As he did so, an enemy grenade and a burst of gunfire came out. The explosion and enemy fire took off the point man's leg. He was then immediately shot in the arm as he lay in the doorway. Corporal Yeager tossed a grenade in the room and ran into the doorway and into the enemy fire in order to pull his buddy back to cover. As he was dragging the wounded Marine to cover, his own grenade came back through the doorway. Without pausing, he reached down and threw the grenade back through the door while he heaved his buddy to safety. The grenade went off inside the room and Cpl Yeager threw another in. He immediately entered the room following the second explosion. He gunned down three enemy all within three feet of where he stood and then let fly a third grenade as he backed out of the room to complete the evacuation of the wounded Marine. You have to understand that a grenade goes off within 5 seconds of having the pin pulled. Marines usually let them "cook off" for a second or two before tossing them in. Therefore, this entire episode took place in less than 30 seconds.

The second example comes from 3/1. Cpl Mitchell is a squad leader. He was wounded as his squad was clearing a house when some enemy threw pineapple grenades down on top of them. As he was getting triaged, the doctor told him that he had been shot through the arm. Cpl Mitchell told the doctor that he had actually been shot "a couple of days ago" and had given himself self aide on the wound. When the doctor got on him about not coming off the line, he firmly told the doctor that he was a squad leader and did not have time to get treated as his men were still fighting. There are a number of Marines who have been wounded multiple times but refuse to leave their fellow Marines.

It is incredibly humbling to walk among such men. They fought as hard as any Marines in history and deserve to be remembered as such. The enemy they fought burrowed into houses and fired through mouse holes cut in walls, lured them into houses rigged with explosives and detonated the houses on pursuing Marines, and actually hid behind surrender flags only to engage the Marines with small arms fire once they perceived that the Marines had let their guard down. I know of several instances where near dead enemy rolled grenades out on Marines who were preparing to render them aid. It was a fight to the finish in every sense and the Marines delivered.

I have called the enemy cowards many times in the past because they have never really held their ground and fought but these guys in the city did. We can call them many things but they were not cowards.

My whole life I have read about the greatest generation and sat in wonder at their accomplishments. For the first time, as I watch these Marines and Soldiers, I am eager for the future as this is just the beginning for them. Perhaps the most amazing characteristic of all is that the morale of the men is sky high. They hurt for the wounded and the dead but they are eager to continue to attack. Further, not one of them would be comfortable with being called a hero even though they clearly are.

By now the Marines and Soldiers have killed well over a thousand enemy. These were not peasants or rabble. They were reasonably well trained and entirely fanatical. Most of the enemy we have seen have chest rigs full of ammunition and are well armed are willing to fight to the death. The Marines and Soldiers are eager to close with them and the fighting at the end is inevitably close.

I will write you more the next time I come in about what we have found inside the city. All I can say is that even with everything that I knew and expected from the last nine months, the brutality and fanaticism of the enemy surprised me. The beheadings were even more common place than we thought but so were torture and summary executions. Even though it is an exaggeration, it seems as though every block in the northern part of the city has a torture chamber or execution site. There are hundreds of tons of munitions and tens of thousands of weapons that our Regiment alone has recovered. The Marines and Soldiers of the Regiment have also found over 400 IEDs already wired and ready to detonate. No doubt these numbers will grow in the days ahead.

In closing, I want to share with you a vignette about when the Marines secured the Old Bridge (the one where the Americans were mutilated and hung on March 31) this week. After the Marines had done all the work and secured the bridge, we walked across to meet up with 3rd LAR on the other side. On the Fallujah side of the bridge where the Americans were hung there is some Arabic writing on the bridge. An interpreter translated it for me as we walked through. It read: "Long Live the Mujahadeen. Fallujah is the Graveyard for Americans and the end of the Marine Corps."

As I came back across the bridge there was a squad sitting in their Amtrac smoking and watching the show. The Marines had written their own message below the enemy's. It is not something that Mom would appreciate but it fit the moment to a T. Not far from the vehicle were two dead enemy laying where they died. The Marines were sick of watching the "Dog and Pony show" and wanted to get back to work.

Dave
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