Originally Posted by daswig

Saddam didn't give money to charity groups that gave money to the families of suicide bombers. Saddam cut checks directly to them for "services rendered". My understanding is that the Saudis have worked to see to it that the funds they give to muslim charities no longer is given to the families of suicide bombers. In other words, they're trying to do the right thing, while Saddam was trying to encourage people to blow themselves up.

It's interesting to note that you've glossed past the fact that 53 WMDs have indeed been recovered in Iraq.

Originally Posted by cthulu23

Let's see some sources for these "facts." The saudis have one of the most repressive Sharia law societies in the Middle East...it's quite interesting to see someone try to erase the their support of radical Islamic causes while trying to indict what was essentially a secular (though brutal) leader.

Originally Posted by daswig

Please give me one good reason WHY I should provide you with one more single goddamned link. I gave you a pinpoint cite on the 53 WMDs discovered so far. No response from ANY of the Bush-bashers. I gave you cites and links for other things Saddam did which qualify as casus belli. Still no response from the Bush-bashers. I gave you links to two specific incidents where Kerry supporters beat Bush supporters for daring to speak out in a public forum that they entered into without theft by deception (which is what the women with tickets did....they lied to get tickets, claiming to be Bush supporters). Still no response from the Bush-bashers. So why exactly should I google shit for you any more???

Originally Posted by divagrrrl

*runs away scared by the haters on both sides*

Originally Posted by daswig

Smooth, judging by the threads you've started in the past (US Atrocities in Iraq, the screwing of Cynthia McKinney, et cetera), let me guess...you're voting for Bush, right?

Originally Posted by smooth

how about from some of us who are trying to dismantle the "fence" ? ;)

Since you are in SoCal, you have the distinguished capability to do what other people in this nation only dream about--vote your conscious without negative repurcussions.

One of Ralph Nader's positions is to stop government waste. I believe he argues the same as I do: that military spending is one huge boondoggle for the military industrial complex to the detriment of our nation's fiscal sanity. Only by reducing expenditure can your tax burden be reduced.

Bush has been pumping the economy up with money he doesn't have. Our debt stretches into the horizon. You and I will have to pay that debt down while simultaneously servicing it. We, as well as our children, will have to pay the principal and the interest someday.

Kerry has a lot of plans, but I haven't seen how he plans on balancing the budget in detail. He has joined forces to do it before, however, and I don't doubt he will team up with the Congress and do it again. But I don't see him cutting the hugely wasteful expenditures that persistently hang around the Capitol--like a raunchy fart.


So vote Nader if you value your fiscal sanity, environment, and anti-corporatism (being small business, this may interest you immensly).

Someone else hopefully will step in and speal you on Badnarik, because I suspect he purports to end government waste, too. But I don't know enough about his platform to give you a fair synopsis of it.

Originally Posted by smooth

Try reading the threads you shit on next time:

Originally Posted by divagrrrl

*runs away scared by the haters on both sides*

Originally Posted by daswig

Please give me one good reason WHY I should provide you with one more single goddamned link. I gave you a pinpoint cite on the 53 WMDs discovered so far. No response from ANY of the Bush-bashers. I gave you cites and links for other things Saddam did which qualify as casus belli. Still no response from the Bush-bashers. I gave you links to two specific incidents where Kerry supporters beat Bush supporters for daring to speak out in a public forum that they entered into without theft by deception (which is what the women with tickets did....they lied to get tickets, claiming to be Bush supporters). Still no response from the Bush-bashers. So why exactly should I google shit for you any more???

Originally Posted by daswig

I'm generally not a hater. It's just when I see asshatery, I have to respond to it.

Originally Posted by smooth

you might want to clarify your tax liability. at least two people have now based part of their analysis on you having a "taxable income" of "16,000."

From my reading of your post, that was your net after taxes on $36,000.

Originally Posted by Beatlefan58

"Here's what she said: Which of our two main candidates is a better friend to small business? I am a Massage Therapist, paid as an independent contractor. I gross about $28,000, take about $12,000 in write-offs, leaving me with about $16,000 to live on each year. Of this, the IRS wants to take about $3500 on average, leaving me to live on $1050 a month"

It's a gross of $28k, expenses to generate that gross figure of $12k, and a net (or taxable) income of $16K.

I can't see where you got $36,000 from that anywhere.

Originally Posted by cthulu23

If these 53 WMDs constitute the "smoking gun" that you think they do, why has the administration admitted that they haven't been able to find WMDs?

Originally Posted by cthulu23

WTF is an "asshat" anyway?

Originally Posted by daswig

Because literacy has never been a strong point for them?

Originally Posted by daswig

Because literacy has never been a strong point for them?

Originally Posted by daswig

Because it doesn't make a good sound-bite, and isn't a catchy acronym.

Originally Posted by daswig

And all the arguments (actually, blanket statements not based upon reality) you've made against the war have been made here time and time again.

Partisan hackery, anyone?

Originally Posted by smooth

hmm, I was typeing from memory. Evidently, I pulled 36K out from my ass.