Kalibah

Because if your too fcking stupid to punch the chad out completly- you dont deserve to live much less vote ( ok im joking- but Republican or Democrat- throw it out!)

If you cant complete registration forums IN Full ( IE colorado sued by ACLU because thousands didnt check the box affirming citizenship - even though they signed a statement at top of forum affirming they were ) you dont deserve to vote.

Its real simple people- and if you can't figure that out- stay home on nov2nd and say us all a headache, and money in 1000$s of dollers of recounting/court fees

cthulu23

Are you saying that the elderly don't deserve to vote because they may have issues with ballots? Are they the "stupid" people that you're referring to?

Kalibah

Did I say that? I dont recall that. As most liberals do - you twist words to get your point across.
I said you if having to fully punch out a chad is beyond your capability, then yes, you don't deserve to vote. There is no reason that "old people" are unable to full punch out a chad. If you cannot fully complete the ballot, that is what election workers are there for. If you cannot turn over the ballot to make sure no chads are hanging on the back of the ballot, then I would suggest that you stay at home

declaring indimindation even if none exists - as the democratic manual in Kerry Edwards in Colorado suggest with their leaked manual...

cthulu23

I was only following through on the logical progression of your statement. Since many elderly people had trouble punching out and handing over chads and given your latest statement, it seems logical that you support that.

Kalibah

Well while true many elder had a problem -it went beyond that... I don't believe all the ballots in question belonged to elder people. It also is important to re-bring up the Voter registration forums in colorado, because it pertains to this and because my " too stupid" quote refers to that also- If you cannot check the box at the end of the form - and fill out the form FULLY- then you dont get to vote. Its plain and simple. Now for people with arthritis, or seeing problems ,etc , then I feel for them - but that is what polling workers do. Ive seen several signs at polling stations that ask voters to not hesitate to ask for help if they have a problem/question or concern.

cthulu23

Regardless of whether it was all elderly or not that had problems with the Fla. 2000 ballot, your hard and fast rules would exclude these very same people. As I've argued throughout this entire thread, trying to exclude "stupid people" from voting is an intrinsically elitist, undemocratic and dangerous idea.

Kalibah

I said simply " throw it out"

I didnt say they cant vote- i said if it isnt done properly throw it out.

Elitist? No.

SecretMethod70

*sigh* I said to get the thread back on topic and civilized again. Apparently the second part was too hard. It's a shame too - I thought this was an interesting subject.

As with all arguments, there is a respectful and civilized way to get a point across and, of course, the opposite. We see far too much of the opposite in Tilted Politics.

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