1) Republican Party 83%
2) Constitution Party 78%
3) Libertarian Party 67%
4) Natural Law Party 33%
5) Reform Party 33%
6) Democratic Party 17%
7) Green Party 17%

Bout what I expected, whoo, I'm one of the few who is actually voting for a party they truely share ideals with! I personally, despite what it could do to the Republican Party, I really do wish people would stop putting forth the "lesser of two evils" argument. I'm just naive enough to believe that the Republicans are all pure of heart ;) :lol:

1) Libertarian Party 87%
2) Constitution Party 78%
3) Republican Party 52%
4) Reform Party 48%
5) Democratic Party 30%
6) Green Party 26%
7) Natural Law Party 17%

1) Green Party 83%
2) Democratic Party 78%
3) Natural Law Party 72%
4) Reform Party 72%
5) Constitution Party 44%
6) Libertarian Party 33%
7) Republican Party 33%

Can someone explain to me how someone else got Green and Libertarian both high up?
And I'd vote for Republican before I every voted for those crazy bible thumping constitution party people.

It is not a matter of forgetting where they came from, although that would eventually happen too. It is a matter of once they got there, they would want to stay there and that, by nature, means moving to the middle. Consider that for the most part 3rd parties in this country are all either right or left of the Dem/Rep parties, making them more partisan in nature. To stay in power, they would have to appeal to a wider group as the fringe might get them into power but could not keep them there.

An other thing to consider is that a 3rd party member has no real power once elected either. They have to throw in with either the Dem or Rep part to get any where in Congress. The whole of the current legislative process is set up to benefit the current TWO major parties and to work against independents or 3rd parties. That is really why there are only parties today. There have been times in history that there were more than two but they were very regional in nature. I very much doubt that we will ever see a truely successful nation 3rd party under the Federal system.

Actually, nothing was set up to benefit the 2 parties, or any parties for that matter. The founding fathers disliked parties and there were none when they created the constitution.

Look at the polls in your state. I don't know where you're from, but unless it's one of the 20 or so battleground states, there's no reason not to vote your conscience. Most states are solidly going to one candidate or the other anyway, so it's a good idea to look into that for your state.

Actually, it's a fault of how we count our votes, according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_Law">Duverger's Law</a>

Again, see my above statement regarding the condition of your state. If you're not in a battleground state, please, vote your conscience.

Precisely. With a change to instant runoff voting, it would be much easier for third parties to gain power because it would eliminate the entire basis for the "wasted vote" mantra.

Thanks to instant runoff voting, or some similar voting reform, if one were to become unhappy, they could easily vote for a different [party which they agree with more instead.

However due to voting reform it could likely gradually become a 3/4 party system instead of representing a broad spectum of Americans as Rep/Dem do voters could choose a candidate that actually represented them more as an individual than a generlization. Having more viewpoints in the public eye also leads to the better handling of a situation as you have more ideas and communication flow, rather than the do the slight opposite of what they said mentality of the Rep/Dem party. Having 3/4 different parties in the House and Senate would be a more productive entity.

Look at most other democracies and they have multiple "major" parties who all focus more on ideology than pandering to the most people.

1) Libertarian Party 69%
2) Constitution Party 63%
3) Republican Party 44%
4) Green Party 44%
5) Democratic Party 38%
6) Reform Party 31%
7) Natural Law Party 25%

While this is corret, I was not really talking about the Constitution. I was talking about the rules governing the legislative process in the House and Senate. Those were put in place gradually over time and have been adapted by the 2 major parties to benefit themselves while making it difficult for those of other parties to have any real influence. Just one example of this is committee chairmanship. By rule of both bodies, the majority party gets the chair of all committees. Now consider that the chair has vast control over the committee itself and that it is very difficult to get legislation before the full House or Senate with first having committee approval. Then there are committee assignments and a host of other things.

No, the Constitution does not recognize or add in the two party system but the two parties have made sure that the other rules do add the current system.


I had never heard of this concept before but I think we are saying the same thing. Our Federal system of democracy dictates that how we count votes is the Single Member District Plurality which means we follow this law by default. Nice read through that link and a great site in general that I had not seen before. Thanks for pointing me to that.



Yes, this would make a difference but it still isn't really what I was driving at. First, even in countries with multi-party systems it is rare that you see a party win majority power (or even be the leader in putting together a ruling coalition) that is not one of the two most centerist parties. Centerist parties will, by definition, appeal to more people. A party closer to the fringe is just that, closer to the fringe and there fore has fewer supporters. While they may be able to swing enough centerists in a single election to win, they would have to carry those same numbers continuously in following elections to remain in power. This is unlikely unless they give up part of their fringe platform and move to the center. The only way for them to stay in power otherwise if for public opinion to swing drastically to their end of the spectrum and thus make what was once the fringe into the new political center.

I also think that some form of term limits for both houses of Congress would help with the current lock on the system by the two major parties.

True but I think this will take more than just voting reform. I believe this will require a change in how a lot of the business of government is done. Under current House and Senate rules, it would still be possible for the party with the largest representation in each to control an excessive amount of the business done there. In fact, they would control much more business then their precentage of representation might otherwise allow for.

As it stands now one party controls all business done hands down, if party division eventually lined up more along the lines of American opinion then no party would have an overwhelming majority still allowing for a check and balanaces against the other parties instead of just landslide votes on every policy decision like it is now.

Libertarian Party 95%
Constitution Party 67%
Republican Party 43%
Democratic Party 33%
Reform Party 33%
Green Party 24%
Natural Law Party 14%

1) Libertarian Party 84%
2) Constitution Party 68%
3) Republican Party 53%
4) Reform Party 42%
5) Natural Law Party 26%
6) Green Party 21%
7) Democratic Party

looks about right to me except that constitution party, i plan to vote lib. on most my choices except prez and state governer. :thumbsup:

Wow... I'm pretty far left. Cool! ;)

1) Green Party 75%
2) Democratic Party 63%
3) Natural Law Party 58%
4) Reform Party 54%
5) Libertarian Party 46%
6) Republican Party 46%
7) Constitution Party 33%

1) Libertarian Party 83%
2) Constitution Party 72%
3) Republican Party 61%
4) Reform Party 44%
5) Democratic Party 39%
6) Natural Law Party 28%
7) Green Party 17%

Yea its obviously has anyone lean to the 3rd party.

1) Libertarian Party 94%
2) Constitution Party 61%
3) Reform Party 50%
4) Republican Party 44%
5) Green Party 44%
6) Democratic Party 28%
7) Natural Law Party 17%

About what I expected. I don't think that many people fall in line with the two major parties anymore, but this is definitely biased toward the smaller parties.

Ironicly its missing the socialists and the communists.

There's an American Communist Party?

You learn something new every day...


Mr Mephisto

1) Libertarian Party 80%
2) Constitution Party 64%
3) Republican Party 52%
4) Reform Party 52%
5) Green Party 36%
6) Democratic Party 32%
7) Natural Law Party 24%

Yup, the CPUSA. I'm pretty sure there's an American Nazi Party too...

I hope you're kidding! Even if you're not, that made me laugh...


Mr Mephisto

nah, mephisto, I'm not kidding. They just don't have many members. If you google "American Nazi Party", their website pops up. Same with the CPUSA.

Heh... I think I'd be afraid for that search to be recorded on my record... :)


Mr Mephisto

Mine again:

1) Green Party 73%
2) Libertarian Party 67%
3) Democratic Party 60%
4) Reform Party 60%
5) Natural Law Party 47%
6) Constitution Party 47%
7) Republican Party 33%


I had them both high up, but I have odd political views. I'm socially liberal, which gives me libertarian points. I'm also basically libertarian on economic issues (blame it on the department up here), but in a sorta different way. I don't think companies should be able to use government power to avoid competition. I'm against protectionism, farm bills, and subsidies. It really comes down to tax policy for me. I think there are areas that the federal government needs to get involved in that a lot of libertarians don't. To me, I assume libertarianism as a starting point, but believe that we can give the government added powers through democracy and mutual consent. Taxation isn't theft, as we expect and receive things in return, for example.

1) Libertarian Party 69%
2) Democratic Party 54%
3) Republican Party 46%
4) Natural Law Party 46%
5) Green Party 46%
6) Reform Party 38%
7) Constitution Party 38%

I didn't realize how aligned I was with Libertarian views, but I'm within the margin of error on the Republican/Democratic affiliation, which makes sense, based on my historical voting record.

1) Libertarian Party 87%
2) Constitution Party 67%
3) Republican Party 60%
4) Reform Party 40%
5) Democratic Party 33%
6) Natural Law Party 20%
7) Green Party 13%


Go Nader.

1) Libertarian Party 77%
2) Constitution Party 73%
3) Republican Party 55%
4) Reform Party 55%
5) Democratic Party 36%
6) Green Party 36%
7) Natural Law Party 32%

1) Libertarian Party 86%
2) Constitution Party 73%
3) Republican Party 55%
4) Reform Party 41%
5) Democratic Party 36%
6) Natural Law Party 18%
7) Green Party 14%

Despite this, I consider Bush the best candidate available from any party on this list.

Almost all Republicans will come out Libertarian on the quiz.

Dems tend to come out as Greens.

Niether are electable.

1) Libertarian Party 81%
2) Constitution Party 62%
3) Republican Party 57%
4) Reform Party 52%
5) Green Party 43%
6) Democratic Party 33%
7) Natural Law Party 33%

Wow. Glad I'm voting for Badnarik.

1) Natural Law Party 78%
2) Democratic Party 67%
3) Republican Party 56%
4) Green Party 56%
5) Constitution Party 56%
6) Reform Party 44%
7) Libertarian Party 11%

I'm Republican so this makes me think. My results should have been more like mirevolver results. :hmm:

Wow, thats pretty amazing :)

1) Libertarian Party 67%
2) Green Party 67%
3) Reform Party 53%
4) Republican Party 47%
5) Natural Law Party 47%
6) Constitution Party 47%
7) Democratic Party 40%


I have to admit, I'm pretty shocked by these answers. I vote Democrat yet it's the lowest score.

I now must question my entire existence. :confused:

That's true. He's 100% pro-life, and wants people to be able to buy whatever kind of gun they want without a license. Their platform is bring the country back to its contstitutional and Biblical roots. I am voting for their KY 6th district candidate for Rep.

1) Green Party 84%
2) Natural Law Party 80%
3) Democratic Party 72%
4) Reform Party 52%
5) Republican Party 44%
6) Libertarian Party 24%
7) Constitution Party 24%


nothing new, i would love to vote green but the state that this country is i might as well just be throwing my vote away, and i hate it. so kerry here you go *punches ballot*

1) Libertarian Party 85%
2) Constitution Party 60%
3) Reform Party 55%
4) Republican Party 45%
5) Green Party 40%
6) Democratic Party 35%
7) Natural Law Party 25%

1) Natural Law Party 60%
2) Democratic Party 55%
3) Libertarian Party 50%
4) Green Party 50%
5) Republican Party 45%
6) Constitution Party 45%
7) Reform Party 35%

Hm. I don't know anything about the Natural Law party.

It didn't ask enough about important issues to me (national defense) or weigh them on importance of how I would vote (national defense, immigration)

While I may show up one way, if everything on there is weighted equally, it isn't a fair representation of my own personal values as a voter and what I personally feel is important.

1) Libertarian Party 88%
2) Constitution Party 59%
3) Republican Party 41%
4) Green Party 41%
5) Reform Party 41%
6) Democratic Party 35%
7) Natural Law Party 24%

Not much different from a year and a quarter ago...

1) Green Party 69%
2) Reform Party 69%
3) Democratic Party 63%
4) Libertarian Party 50%
5) Constitution Party 50%
6) Natural Law Party 44%
7) Republican Party 31%

Interesting.

1) Reform Party 65%
2) Libertarian Party 55%
3) Constitution Party 55%
4) Green Party 50%
5) Republican Party 45%
6) Natural Law Party 40%
7) Democratic Party 35%

Green party before republican?!

Most of the questions i would haveliked to delve into deeper detail over but i guess this is where i happen to fall if the test says so:

1) Libertarian Party 79%
2) Green Party 63%
3) Reform Party 58%
4) Constitution Party 47%
5) Democratic Party 32%
6) Republican Party 32%
7) Natural Law Party 32%