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tecoyah · 10-08-2004, 01:52 PM

I know....I know, I said I would refrain from coming into this forum.

Oh well....this could be the defining moment in this election. I would ask, before the debate starts, what our members consider to be the likely result. It would be interesting to see who calls it.

My guess: Bush comes out strong and attempts to make Kerry look the fool on his record. We hear the flip flop thing more than economic policy.
Kerry attempts to reveal his economic plan(if there is one) but is instead, kept on the defensive for the first half of the debate.
Towards the end of the 1 1/2 hours, Bush begins to lose the ability to form cohesive thought and Kerry goes into stump speech mode.

End result: Kerry takes the second debate.

Just my Guess, as I think they both Suck.

shamelesscondor · 10-08-2004, 02:36 PM

I want Bush to get so frustated that he takes a bite out of Kerry's ear....

quicksteal · 10-08-2004, 02:51 PM

My guess: Kerry says a bunch of things that are popular but wrong, while Bush says the same thing as often as possible.

If the questions the candidates get are more off-the-wall, I think Bush has the better chance b/c he doesn't have a soundbite to recite. Think back to the N. Korea portion of the last debate--he had details, and spoke in an educated manner. It makes no sense to me why he didn't do that throughout the debate, especially considering his interview with Bill O'Reilly. There was certainly stump-speech stuff in that interview, but he also offered some new insight about some issues. We'll see how it goes this time.

bud4 · 10-08-2004, 04:46 PM

Ever notice how they both duck the question when it suits them? They both will blabber on with their "stump speech rhetoric" to keep hammering their points. The so-called debates are a farce. Also note how the folks who pick the "winner" are always leaning left or right no matter what is said by anyone.
There has to be a better way.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:03 PM

Watch for a communication device on bush

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:07 PM

LOL, There goes Bush with his annoying chimp face.

irateplatypus · 10-08-2004, 05:08 PM

bah... first question is a lame one. i hope they cover more ground and not just retread the stuff from the first debate.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:09 PM

The questions are much more loaded in this debate

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:09 PM

He HAS to be wearing a ear piece...he pauses between every 5 words.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:11 PM

They should search them after the debate

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:13 PM

Great comeback on Kerry's part. Very defiant.

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:13 PM

No more flip-flopping discussion, please, I beg you.. What's bizarre is how much better Bush was at debating 4 yrs. ago. Guess ducking the press has left him unused to answering questions.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:13 PM

Bush was just laughing at Kerry

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:14 PM

I think he was laughing at the doodle he just created.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maypo

No more flip-flopping discussion, please, I beg you.. What's bizarre is how much better Bush was at debating 4 yrs. ago. Guess ducking the press has left him unused to answering questions.

Maybe he is starting to get senile. This hasn't been the first time this has been mentioned.

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:17 PM

Take a look at Kerry....he is laughing as well

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maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:19 PM

I have heard it seriously discussed but find it hard to believe, although every alcoholic I have known was wrecked by age forty.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:19 PM

Ohh finnaly a forgien opinnion question

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:22 PM

The first time I heard Bush express an opinion on Israel is when he said he "wasn't going to get involved" in the mideast peace process, "that was the previous administrations thing." Good move.

trickyy · 10-08-2004, 05:23 PM

bush got nailed on his sanctions misstatement. oops. he was doing decent until then.

kerry keeps pimping his magic solutions, dropping catch phrases.

this desk setup is odd. i want my split screen.

neither of them have updated any of their incorrect figures from last time
(1.6 million jobs, 75% of al Qaeda)

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:25 PM

Can't admit they are wrong. It is a sign of weakness in America. The news would be all over it.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:25 PM

75% of al qaeda may have been captured yet al qaeda has grown much larger..... If your actions removed 10 al qaeda members but also created 20 more you have a serious problem.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:27 PM

*scowl* why does it make you want to scowl? Because you know he is right?

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:27 PM

This nuclear material business is serious, why hasn't Bush quickly adopted it into his platform?

BuddyHawks · 10-08-2004, 05:27 PM

seems like bush is shouting at the audience.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:28 PM

rumors on the internets! all 15 of them!

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:29 PM

Pay our troops well? This may be the funniest line of the night

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:29 PM

LOL Rekna, the internets are dangerous.

He shouldn't have said "axis of evil" again.

irateplatypus · 10-08-2004, 05:31 PM

does it bother anyone else that kerry answers the person's question while staring directly at the president?

Locobot · 10-08-2004, 05:32 PM

omg "rumors on the internets" the ones gore created?

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:32 PM

OHH MY angry bush

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:33 PM

Yelling at the moderator is not good

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:33 PM

I like that Kerry stares at the president, makes the debate more intense.

irateplatypus · 10-08-2004, 05:35 PM

i think they should just get two pairs of boxing gloves, headgear be damned

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:35 PM

Bush looks like a dear in headlights on some of those comments

maypo · 10-08-2004, 05:36 PM

I'm actualy feeling sorry for him.

Rekna · 10-08-2004, 05:36 PM

Oohh the patriot act was brought up I hope Kerry counters on that

Rdr4evr · 10-08-2004, 05:38 PM

Bush once again is repeating word for word what he said in the last debate.

trickyy · 10-08-2004, 05:40 PM

scowl comment = hilarious

wrong war, wrong place, wrong time = let's not hear it again

yeah, gibson seems to have his own ideas about rebuttals

JumpinJesus · 10-08-2004, 05:41 PM

Bush seems as if he's thinking, "Why don't any of you dumbasses applaud me? I'm right, dammit! Jesus Christ, why are you questioning me??"

10-08-2004, 01:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	Town Hall Debate Thread I know....I know, I said I would refrain from coming into this forum. Oh well....this could be the defining moment in this election. I would ask, before the debate starts, what our members consider to be the likely result. It would be interesting to see who calls it. My guess: Bush comes out strong and attempts to make Kerry look the fool on his record. We hear the flip flop thing more than economic policy. Kerry attempts to reveal his economic plan(if there is one) but is instead, kept on the defensive for the first half of the debate. Towards the end of the 1 1/2 hours, Bush begins to lose the ability to form cohesive thought and Kerry goes into stump speech mode. End result: Kerry takes the second debate. Just my Guess, as I think they both Suck. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

10-08-2004, 05:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	bah... first question is a lame one. i hope they cover more ground and not just retread the stuff from the first debate. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

10-08-2004, 05:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
BuddyHawks Swashbuckling Location: Iowa...sometimes	seems like bush is shouting at the audience. __________________ Watch More TV

10-08-2004, 05:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	does it bother anyone else that kerry answers the person's question while staring directly at the president? __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

10-08-2004, 05:35 PM	#34 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	i think they should just get two pairs of boxing gloves, headgear be damned __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

10-08-2004, 02:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
shamelesscondor Upright	I want Bush to get so frustated that he takes a bite out of Kerry's ear....

10-08-2004, 02:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
quicksteal Crazy Location: Auburn, AL	My guess: Kerry says a bunch of things that are popular but wrong, while Bush says the same thing as often as possible. If the questions the candidates get are more off-the-wall, I think Bush has the better chance b/c he doesn't have a soundbite to recite. Think back to the N. Korea portion of the last debate--he had details, and spoke in an educated manner. It makes no sense to me why he didn't do that throughout the debate, especially considering his interview with Bill O'Reilly. There was certainly stump-speech stuff in that interview, but he also offered some new insight about some issues. We'll see how it goes this time.

10-08-2004, 04:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
bud4 Upright	Ever notice how they both duck the question when it suits them? They both will blabber on with their "stump speech rhetoric" to keep hammering their points. The so-called debates are a farce. Also note how the folks who pick the "winner" are always leaning left or right no matter what is said by anyone. There has to be a better way.

10-08-2004, 05:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Watch for a communication device on bush

10-08-2004, 05:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	LOL, There goes Bush with his annoying chimp face.

10-08-2004, 05:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	The questions are much more loaded in this debate

10-08-2004, 05:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	He HAS to be wearing a ear piece...he pauses between every 5 words.

10-08-2004, 05:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	They should search them after the debate

10-08-2004, 05:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	Great comeback on Kerry's part. Very defiant.

10-08-2004, 05:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	No more flip-flopping discussion, please, I beg you.. What's bizarre is how much better Bush was at debating 4 yrs. ago. Guess ducking the press has left him unused to answering questions.

10-08-2004, 05:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Bush was just laughing at Kerry

10-08-2004, 05:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	I think he was laughing at the doodle he just created.

10-08-2004, 05:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	Take a look at Kerry....he is laughing as well .

10-08-2004, 05:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	I have heard it seriously discussed but find it hard to believe, although every alcoholic I have known was wrecked by age forty.

10-08-2004, 05:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Ohh finnaly a forgien opinnion question

10-08-2004, 05:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	The first time I heard Bush express an opinion on Israel is when he said he "wasn't going to get involved" in the mideast peace process, "that was the previous administrations thing." Good move.

10-08-2004, 05:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
trickyy ►	bush got nailed on his sanctions misstatement. oops. he was doing decent until then. kerry keeps pimping his magic solutions, dropping catch phrases. this desk setup is odd. i want my split screen. neither of them have updated any of their incorrect figures from last time (1.6 million jobs, 75% of al Qaeda)

10-08-2004, 05:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	Can't admit they are wrong. It is a sign of weakness in America. The news would be all over it.

10-08-2004, 05:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	75% of al qaeda may have been captured yet al qaeda has grown much larger..... If your actions removed 10 al qaeda members but also created 20 more you have a serious problem.

10-08-2004, 05:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	scowl why does it make you want to scowl? Because you know he is right?

10-08-2004, 05:27 PM	#24 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	This nuclear material business is serious, why hasn't Bush quickly adopted it into his platform?

10-08-2004, 05:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	rumors on the internets! all 15 of them!

10-08-2004, 05:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	Pay our troops well? This may be the funniest line of the night

10-08-2004, 05:29 PM	#28 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	LOL Rekna, the internets are dangerous. He shouldn't have said "axis of evil" again.

10-08-2004, 05:32 PM	#30 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	omg "rumors on the internets" the ones gore created?

10-08-2004, 05:32 PM	#31 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	OHH MY angry bush

10-08-2004, 05:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Yelling at the moderator is not good

10-08-2004, 05:33 PM	#33 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	I like that Kerry stares at the president, makes the debate more intense.

10-08-2004, 05:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	Bush looks like a dear in headlights on some of those comments

10-08-2004, 05:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
maypo Tilted	I'm actualy feeling sorry for him.