The Kerry Campaign needs to lighten up (no pun was intended but it worked out well) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Ustwo · 09-29-2004, 09:40 PM

Ok maybe or maybe not you have heard about the Kerry 'spray on' tan for the debates.

Here is the picture that has been around a while. Apparently the Kerry campaign says he got the tan in a one hour football game, which is in itself rather laughable, but reports were he was orange to start the game. I don't have any links for it as its a 'non issue'

Here is Kerry in his orange glow.

Ok its pretty bad in that photo, I'm sure it will be touched up for the debate to make him nice and John Kennedy like. Its silly but its not an issue I know.

Now yesterday Mrs. Cheney made a little joke about it.

Quote:

DULUTH, Minn. - Something about Sen. John Kerry's darker appearance has caught Lynne Cheney's eye.

During a campaign stop with her husband, a group of volunteers moved into the crowd with microphones for the question-and-answer period. Vice President Dick Cheney told supporters to look for the people with dark orange shirts.

When Cheney paused as if searching for the words to describe the shade of orange, Lynne Cheney said, "How about John Kerry's suntan?"

The remark drew a big laugh from the crowd and the vice president.

Ok ha ha, funny. Again not a big deal, its far less insulting then any of Kerry’s jokes when he did the TV show circuit. But again its not an issue.

But now for the Kerry campaign 'response' to Mrs. Cheney's biting attack......

Quote:

Responding to her comments, Kerry campaign spokesman Bill Burton said, "Is Mrs. Cheney jealous considering how hard it is to get sun in the undisclosed location with her husband Dick? Or is she distracted over how red-in-the-face George Bush should be considering his failed presidency?"

I can feel the bitterness and any voters would too. Mrs. Cheney made a funny, its the Vice presidents wife, no one really should CARE. The Kerry campaign attacks it as if she said something about Kerry shooting a wounded unarmed man in Vietnam. Its like trying to swat a fly with a sledge hammer. It not only missed the target but makes you look really stupid in the process.

I'm just wondering who is running this campaign? Its the kind of response I'd expect from a tfper's first trip to the politics board, not what a polished and professional campaign would come out with. Something like this required no response, or at worst something very light hearted.

It almost makes me wonder if the now 2 year rumor about the Clintons sinking ANY democrat candidate in order to give Hilary a shot in 2008 might well be true, (among other reasons).

Does anyone think Kerry so far has run a good campaign?

Ustwo · 09-29-2004, 10:08 PM

I just saw something very amusing in that picture which has nothing to do with his tan. A hero cookie to the first one who points it out

martinguerre · 09-29-2004, 11:10 PM

if you don't get it that mrs. cheney was being every bit as partisan (or bitter, depending on your POV) in her comments...

TheKak · 09-30-2004, 01:18 AM

Quote:

no one really should CARE

What a rediculous non-issue this is.

Flyguy · 09-30-2004, 01:28 AM

What do you care? You're all for dictator Bush. Why is Kerry's tan so important to you all of a sudden? So what if he wants to look "Kennedy" like. Bush is doing the same thing trying to look like Reagan. They're both pulling the same shit for the debates. So what? It looks like you spent a lot of time writing that and I have to honestly think, don't you have anything better to do?

In other words, this issue is soo damn stupid.

Get off it.

This is an example of the WRONG way to respond to this post. Notice how the poster turns it into a personal attack?

24 hour bannination.

-lebell

Superbelt · 09-30-2004, 03:36 AM

This is also a 'non issue' of course. No rational individual would dream of getting down on a candidate over something superficial and trivial.

Early April 04 Mid April 04

Nov 8, 02 January 28, 03
Just, you know, a haha. Nothing big, a non issue.

The man wouldn't be dying his hair now would he? Not after accusing Al Gore of doing the same thing, "The man dyes his hair." Bush sayd "What does that tell you about him?" Then he says "He doesn't know who he is."
Does Bush know, and like himself? But you know, it's a non issue.

Btw, this is a non issue, but for his own safety he should stop. Recent research suggests long term dark hair coloring can cause non-hodgkings lymphoma. That's not good.

Ooh, and what a TOOL Kerry is for wearing the Yellow Lance Armstrong Bracelet How dare that bastard contribute to cancer research and then be proud about it! I'm gonna take mine off right now. I'll tell all my coworkers who have one to do the same.

Ustwo · 09-30-2004, 04:28 AM

Superbelt PLEASE, Kerry did this litterally over night.

Superbelt · 09-30-2004, 04:31 AM

Non issue, but hair dying isn't a marathon process either.
But you know, this is a non issue.

Rank hypocracy is a non issue as well, but he DID criticise Al Gore for this exact same thing, or did you miss that part of the hair dye non issue that I posted?

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For everyone here who is NOT Ustwo, please realize that I really don't give a shit about this. That it does not register on my radar. I could care less who gets botox, self tanner, hair dye, teeth caps, braces, penis augmentation, breast reduction, liposuction, sexual reorientation surgery ect.

I have only done this to expose one of the most retarded subjects brought up on this board and highlight the direction this board has taken recently.

Again my post was done only in a sarcastic way.

Averett · 09-30-2004, 04:48 AM

Holy Shit!!! Kerry used SPRAY ON TAN? Dear God NOOOOO!! What an asshole! And that Lance Armstrong bracelet? Well, that just seals it. I guess now I'll be voting for Bush!

I mean, we can't have a guy in office who wears a yellow bracelet for cancer research, or who fakes a tan now can we?

This is the most idiotic non-issue ever. Get over it. Who cares?

DJ Happy · 09-30-2004, 04:51 AM

I'd rather he faked a tan than a reason for invading a non-threatening sovereign nation.

cthulu23 · 09-30-2004, 05:15 AM

If you can't make your charges of "flip-flopper" stick then go for an even more baseless charge. What do you think that you are accomplishing here? This probably pushes the boundaries of what's acceptable for the political forum. May the wrath of the mods be visited upon you.

irateplatypus · 09-30-2004, 05:46 AM

it's really no big deal... but i don't see why he doesn't come out and say he spray-tanned. i have very grave doubts a man who has been snow-skiing and windsurfing during the summer would have that much tan difference after throwing the football around in the late september sun. just admitting it would give people less incentive to speculate on it. apparently his PR guy subscribes to the CBSnews believe-us-cause-we're-real-important school of thought.

lol, as trivial as it is to talk about this... at least it's something other than Iraq.

Superbelt · 09-30-2004, 05:57 AM

Conversely I could say:
it's really no big deal... but i don't see why he doesn't come out and say he hair dyed.

He may not have come out and said he is spray-tanned for several reasons.

Assuming he actually did use tan in a bottle
a) Noone asked.
simple eh?

Assuming it's a natural tan
a) Noone asked.
b) Maybe he used strong sunscreen when skiing and windsurfing. Those are two conditions where you can get a severe sunburn. Snow albedo especially can be damaging to your skin. Then, he goes to play football in early Fall and assumes he won't need sunscreen. He gets a deep tan. It can happen.
c) Color correction of the picture was off. Wanna post a second picture where he looks that dark?

Even if Kerry did use self tan, so what. My wife used a tanning bed in the runup to our wedding. I am of Italian descent and especially dark. She is of German d and didn't want to look too white next to me for our wedding pictures. She also wanted more contrast with her skin and the dress. If it is self tan, then, my wife and Kerry have in common that they just both want to look their best for the cameras. I bet both candidates come to the 'debates' dressed as well as they can with fresh haircuts and professionally fixed hair! And even some makeup to keep their complexion for the cameras. That's the way politics are in a society of television and cameras.

Lebell · 09-30-2004, 06:36 AM

While I find this thread amusing, for the good of the board I am closing it.

I've issued one 24 hour ban and honestly, Cthullu and Superbelt are riding the edge of a couple more.

Those two individuals are on notice that more sniping at Ustwo as exibited in this thread WILL get a ban.

As to the inevitable charge of mod partisanship, he has been warned in the past and the worst he could be accused of in this thread is creating a silly thread. I will also point out that there have been several perfectly acceptable responses (see irateplatypus especially).

09-29-2004, 10:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I just saw something very amusing in that picture which has nothing to do with his tan. A hero cookie to the first one who points it out __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

09-30-2004, 01:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Flyguy Banned Location: Swooping down on you from above....	Ustow needs to lighten up What do you care? You're all for dictator Bush. Why is Kerry's tan so important to you all of a sudden? So what if he wants to look "Kennedy" like. Bush is doing the same thing trying to look like Reagan. They're both pulling the same shit for the debates. So what? It looks like you spent a lot of time writing that and I have to honestly think, don't you have anything better to do? In other words, this issue is soo damn stupid. Get off it. This is an example of the WRONG way to respond to this post. Notice how the poster turns it into a personal attack? 24 hour bannination. -lebell Last edited by Lebell; 09-30-2004 at 06:25 AM..

09-30-2004, 03:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	This is also a 'non issue' of course. No rational individual would dream of getting down on a candidate over something superficial and trivial. Early April 04 Mid April 04 Nov 8, 02 January 28, 03 Just, you know, a haha. Nothing big, a non issue. The man wouldn't be dying his hair now would he? Not after accusing Al Gore of doing the same thing, "The man dyes his hair." Bush sayd "What does that tell you about him?" Then he says "He doesn't know who he is." Does Bush know, and like himself? But you know, it's a non issue. Btw, this is a non issue, but for his own safety he should stop. Recent research suggests long term dark hair coloring can cause non-hodgkings lymphoma. That's not good. Ooh, and what a TOOL Kerry is for wearing the Yellow Lance Armstrong Bracelet How dare that bastard contribute to cancer research and then be proud about it! I'm gonna take mine off right now. I'll tell all my coworkers who have one to do the same. Last edited by Superbelt; 09-30-2004 at 04:51 AM..

09-30-2004, 04:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Superbelt PLEASE, Kerry did this litterally over night. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

09-30-2004, 04:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Non issue, but hair dying isn't a marathon process either. But you know, this is a non issue. Rank hypocracy is a non issue as well, but he DID criticise Al Gore for this exact same thing, or did you miss that part of the hair dye non issue that I posted? ____________________ For everyone here who is NOT Ustwo, please realize that I really don't give a shit about this. That it does not register on my radar. I could care less who gets botox, self tanner, hair dye, teeth caps, braces, penis augmentation, breast reduction, liposuction, sexual reorientation surgery ect. I have only done this to expose one of the most retarded subjects brought up on this board and highlight the direction this board has taken recently. Again my post was done only in a sarcastic way. Last edited by Superbelt; 09-30-2004 at 04:44 AM..

09-29-2004, 11:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
martinguerre whosoever Location: New England	if you don't get it that mrs. cheney was being every bit as partisan (or bitter, depending on your POV) in her comments...

09-30-2004, 04:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	Holy Shit!!! Kerry used SPRAY ON TAN? Dear God NOOOOO!! What an asshole! And that Lance Armstrong bracelet? Well, that just seals it. I guess now I'll be voting for Bush! I mean, we can't have a guy in office who wears a yellow bracelet for cancer research, or who fakes a tan now can we? This is the most idiotic non-issue ever. Get over it. Who cares? __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

09-30-2004, 04:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
DJ Happy Psycho	I'd rather he faked a tan than a reason for invading a non-threatening sovereign nation.

09-30-2004, 05:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	If you can't make your charges of "flip-flopper" stick then go for an even more baseless charge. What do you think that you are accomplishing here? This probably pushes the boundaries of what's acceptable for the political forum. May the wrath of the mods be visited upon you.

09-30-2004, 05:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	it's really no big deal... but i don't see why he doesn't come out and say he spray-tanned. i have very grave doubts a man who has been snow-skiing and windsurfing during the summer would have that much tan difference after throwing the football around in the late september sun. just admitting it would give people less incentive to speculate on it. apparently his PR guy subscribes to the CBSnews believe-us-cause-we're-real-important school of thought. lol, as trivial as it is to talk about this... at least it's something other than Iraq. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

09-30-2004, 05:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Conversely I could say: it's really no big deal... but i don't see why he doesn't come out and say he hair dyed. He may not have come out and said he is spray-tanned for several reasons. Assuming he actually did use tan in a bottle a) Noone asked. simple eh? Assuming it's a natural tan a) Noone asked. b) Maybe he used strong sunscreen when skiing and windsurfing. Those are two conditions where you can get a severe sunburn. Snow albedo especially can be damaging to your skin. Then, he goes to play football in early Fall and assumes he won't need sunscreen. He gets a deep tan. It can happen. c) Color correction of the picture was off. Wanna post a second picture where he looks that dark? Even if Kerry did use self tan, so what. My wife used a tanning bed in the runup to our wedding. I am of Italian descent and especially dark. She is of German d and didn't want to look too white next to me for our wedding pictures. She also wanted more contrast with her skin and the dress. If it is self tan, then, my wife and Kerry have in common that they just both want to look their best for the cameras. I bet both candidates come to the 'debates' dressed as well as they can with fresh haircuts and professionally fixed hair! And even some makeup to keep their complexion for the cameras. That's the way politics are in a society of television and cameras. Last edited by Superbelt; 09-30-2004 at 06:01 AM..

09-30-2004, 06:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	While I find this thread amusing, for the good of the board I am closing it. I've issued one 24 hour ban and honestly, Cthullu and Superbelt are riding the edge of a couple more. Those two individuals are on notice that more sniping at Ustwo as exibited in this thread WILL get a ban. As to the inevitable charge of mod partisanship, he has been warned in the past and the worst he could be accused of in this thread is creating a silly thread. I will also point out that there have been several perfectly acceptable responses (see irateplatypus especially). __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!