Potshots from a Hypocrite : Neil Cavuto proves his journalistic integrity - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

maximusveritas · 05-14-2003, 08:50 PM

Wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the Humor section:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86795,00.html

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Potshots From a Hypocrite
By Neil Cavuto

Since no good deed goes unpunished, leave it to The New York Times to take a shot at me. Not The Times itself, but columnist Paul Krugman, who blasts me for my apparent blatant partisanship.

He writes:

"Neil Cavuto of Fox News is an anchor, not a commentator. Yet after Baghdad's fall he told ‘those who opposed the liberation of Iraq’ -- a large minority -- that ‘you were sickening then; you are sickening now.’"

First off, Mr. Krugman, let me correct you: I'm a host and a commentator, just like you no doubt call yourself a journalist and a columnist. So my sharing my opinions is a bad thing, but you spouting off yours is not?

Exactly who's the hypocrite, Mr. Krugman? Me, for expressing my views in a designated segment at the end of the show? Or you, for not so cleverly masking your own biases against the war in a cheaply written column?

You're as phony as you are unprofessional. And you have the nerve to criticize me, or Fox News, and by extension, News Corporation?

Look, I'd much rather put my cards on the table and let people know where I stand in a clear editorial, than insidiously imply it in what's supposed to be a straight news story. And by the way, you sanctimonious twit, no one -- no one -- tells me what to say. I say it. And I write it. And no one lectures me on it. Save you, you pretentious charlatan.

Let me see if I have this right, Mr. Krugman. Journalists who opposed this war are OK. Those who support it are not. Says who? You?

I'm less of a journalist because I was in favor of this war, but you're more of a journalist because you were not? You imply that by being in favor of this war, I'm pandering, and by extension, my company is pandering to the White House.

Nowhere does it ever occur to you, one can legitimately not agree with you. That doesn't make me less of a journalist. But, Mr. Krugman, it does make you more of an ass. Here's the difference: You insinuated it, I just said it.

Now may I suggest you take your column and shove it?

He takes issue with Krugman calling him an anchor, but FoxNews itself refers to him as such in his bio.

"sanctimonious twit"? "pretentious charlatan"?
I think little Neil needs a timeout.

Kadath · 05-14-2003, 10:13 PM

I'd link this, but you have to register with the NYT, so here is the Krugman article.

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The China Syndrome
By PAUL KRUGMAN

funny thing happened during the Iraq war: many Americans turned to the BBC for their TV news. They were looking for an alternative point of view — something they couldn't find on domestic networks, which, in the words of the BBC's director general, "wrapped themselves in the American flag and substituted patriotism for impartiality."

Leave aside the rights and wrongs of the war itself, and consider the paradox. The BBC is owned by the British government, and one might have expected it to support that government's policies. In fact, however, it tried hard — too hard, its critics say — to stay impartial. America's TV networks are privately owned, yet they behaved like state-run media.

What explains this paradox? It may have something to do with the China syndrome. No, not the one involving nuclear reactors — the one exhibited by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation when dealing with the government of the People's Republic.

In the United States, Mr. Murdoch's media empire — which includes Fox News and The New York Post — is known for its flag-waving patriotism. But all that patriotism didn't stop him from, as a Fortune article put it, "pandering to China's repressive regime to get his programming into that vast market." The pandering included dropping the BBC's World Service — which reports news China's government doesn't want disseminated — from his satellite programming, and having his publishing company cancel the publication of a book critical of the Chinese regime.

Can something like that happen in this country? Of course it can. Through its policy decisions — especially, though not only, decisions involving media regulation — the U.S. government can reward media companies that please it, punish those that don't. This gives private networks an incentive to curry favor with those in power. Yet because the networks aren't government-owned, they aren't subject to the kind of scrutiny faced by the BBC, which must take care not to seem like a tool of the ruling party. So we shouldn't be surprised if America's "independent" television is far more deferential to those in power than the state-run systems in Britain or — for another example — Israel.

A recent report by Stephen Labaton of The Times contained a nice illustration of the U.S. government's ability to reward media companies that do what it wants. The issue was a proposal by Michael Powell, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to relax regulations on media ownership. The proposal, formally presented yesterday, may be summarized as a plan to let the bigger fish eat more of the smaller fish. Big media companies will be allowed to have a larger share of the national market and own more TV stations in any given local market, and many restrictions on "cross-ownership" — owning radio stations, TV stations and newspapers in the same local market — will be lifted.

The plan's defects aside — it will further reduce the diversity of news available to most people — what struck me was the horse-trading involved. One media group wrote to Mr. Powell, dropping its opposition to part of his plan "in return for favorable commission action" on another matter. That was indiscreet, but you'd have to be very naïve not to imagine that there are a lot of implicit quid pro quos out there.

And the implicit trading surely extends to news content. Imagine a TV news executive considering whether to run a major story that might damage the Bush administration — say, a follow-up on Senator Bob Graham's charge that a Congressional report on Sept. 11 has been kept classified because it would raise embarrassing questions about the administration's performance. Surely it would occur to that executive that the administration could punish any network running that story.

Meanwhile, both the formal rules and the codes of ethics that formerly prevented blatant partisanship are gone or ignored. Neil Cavuto of Fox News is an anchor, not a commentator. Yet after Baghdad's fall he told "those who opposed the liberation of Iraq" — a large minority — that "you were sickening then; you are sickening now." Fair and balanced.

We don't have censorship in this country; it's still possible to find different points of view. But we do have a system in which the major media companies have strong incentives to present the news in a way that pleases the party in power, and no incentive not to.

I think what irked Cavuto the most is that he's a postscript at best. The far more important issue is the idea that the American media might get even worse. I want to hear negative commentary on the president and his decisions, no matter who he is, or what he's doing.

Liquor Dealer · 05-15-2003, 08:37 AM

"Nowhere does it ever occur to you, one can legitimately not agree with you. That doesn't make me less of a journalist. But, Mr. Krugman, it does make you more of an ass. Here's the difference: You insinuated it, I just said it.

Now may I suggest you take your column and shove it?"

Doesn't sound hypocritical to me - sounds like he said what he meant and meant what he said.

maximusveritas · 05-15-2003, 06:38 PM

"Potshots from a Hypocrite" was his title, not mine. I'm guessing that that he's calling Krugman the hypocrite, but he never really makes his case.

Macheath · 05-15-2003, 11:28 PM

What a tapdance - He makes unfounded claims that Krugman supposedly cannot tolerate those who disagree with him or who support the war in any way. Seems the only reference Klugman made to Cavuto was Cavuto's view that those who opposed the war are 'sickening'. Not exactly the pot calling the kettle black, more like the pot calling the toaster black.

He claims that Klugman "implies" Fox News' "pandering" to the White House over the War in Iraq. Klugman however, specifically uses the word pandering (using Fortune magazines words) in reference to Fox's relationship with the Chinese Government.

Cavuto of course doesn't mention China at all - Childish and incredibly dishonest writing from Cavuto.

Cavuto almost helps Klugman prove his thesis by writing an article of reply that perfectly defines where American journalism is nowdays.

05-15-2003, 08:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	"Nowhere does it ever occur to you, one can legitimately not agree with you. That doesn't make me less of a journalist. But, Mr. Krugman, it does make you more of an ass. Here's the difference: You insinuated it, I just said it. Now may I suggest you take your column and shove it?" Doesn't sound hypocritical to me - sounds like he said what he meant and meant what he said. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

05-15-2003, 06:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	"Potshots from a Hypocrite" was his title, not mine. I'm guessing that that he's calling Krugman the hypocrite, but he never really makes his case.

05-15-2003, 11:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	What a tapdance - He makes unfounded claims that Krugman supposedly cannot tolerate those who disagree with him or who support the war in any way. Seems the only reference Klugman made to Cavuto was Cavuto's view that those who opposed the war are 'sickening'. Not exactly the pot calling the kettle black, more like the pot calling the toaster black. He claims that Klugman "implies" Fox News' "pandering" to the White House over the War in Iraq. Klugman however, specifically uses the word pandering (using Fortune magazines words) in reference to Fox's relationship with the Chinese Government. Cavuto of course doesn't mention China at all - Childish and incredibly dishonest writing from Cavuto. Cavuto almost helps Klugman prove his thesis by writing an article of reply that perfectly defines where American journalism is nowdays.