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thebeat 08-02-2004 07:29 PM

Presidential Poll
 
*note - I did a search and didn't see a poll like this...

If the elections were today, who would you vote for.

/me votes for Bush again

KMA-628 08-02-2004 07:35 PM

Not that anybody would doubt which side of the fence I am on.....

/clicked on the first one

BigGov 08-02-2004 07:36 PM

None of the above. (Badnarik)

Journeyman 08-02-2004 07:39 PM

Kerry.

Should definitely have a second poll on Nov 3, btw.

Bill O'Rights 08-02-2004 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigGov
None of the above. (Badnarik)
Yes, the disenfranchised Libertarians now have our candidate as a choice. Feel free to vote now.

ARTelevision 08-02-2004 08:04 PM

As is known here, I'll be voting to reelect the President.

thebeat 08-02-2004 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigGov
None of the above. (Badnarik)

Sorry for my ignorance!

pan6467 08-02-2004 08:38 PM

Voted for Nader in 2000, voting Kerry this year.

Jeff 08-02-2004 08:49 PM

Another for Kerry\Edwards.

Paq 08-02-2004 10:53 PM

I'm voting for bush/cheney.

Seriously
no, honestly.
I"m serious.

really

I think he'll do great for another 4 yrs

Why is there lightning and thunder outside, it's a clear night..

i think i see a bolt of lightning coming for me..


Ok ok ok, i admit it

Kerry/edwards here..

matteo101 08-02-2004 11:15 PM

I am Canadian so I will not participate in the poll..but if I were an American Citizen, I would not only vote Kery/Edwards, but I would travel to a "battleground" state to vote.

scapegoat 08-02-2004 11:32 PM

Kerry/ Edwards, hands down.

Wax_off 08-03-2004 12:27 PM

Too bad the libertarians don't show as well nationally as they do on this poll. Normally I may have considered voting libertarian in Nov. but not this year. We can't have any more of this nonsense that Bush & Co. have been pushing us into and a vote for anyone but Kerry is a vote for Bush.

No more years! No more years!

Kerry/Edwards.

whocarz 08-04-2004 04:22 AM

If I wasn't so apathetic about the whole political process, I'd vote for Badnarik, like I did in this poll.

Superbelt 08-04-2004 04:36 AM

chant: 3 more months!, 3 more months!

/john 2

Averett 08-04-2004 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by matteo101
I am Canadian so I will not participate in the poll..but if I were an American Citizen, I would not only vote Kery/Edwards, but I would travel to a "battleground" state to vote.
Can't... Have to vote in the state which you're registered.

John Squared for me.

ShaniFaye 08-04-2004 05:04 AM

Gotta be the first choice for me!!

Bill O'Rights 08-04-2004 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
chant: 3 more months!, 3 more months!

/john 2

http://www.silverscreentest.com/koala/eucalyptus/3w.jpg

He knows

Polyphobic 08-04-2004 09:18 AM

Kerry/Edwards. I'm tired of rising medical costs and my jobs heading to India. Since Bush has been in office my wages have remained static but my take home has dropped 20%. It's my opinion that Kerry Edwards gives me the most chance of reversing these trends.

matteo101 08-04-2004 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Averett
Can't... Have to vote in the state which you're registered.

John Squared for me.

Can you register in a state which you don't call home?

unoaman 08-04-2004 10:34 AM

Kerry/Edwards...

Probably wouldn't be my first choice if I were king of the Democratic party...but a viable alternative to whats his name & Cheney.

mystmarimatt 08-04-2004 11:01 AM

Kerry/Edwards

I likes me sum eddicashun that don' cost s' much
and a good eddicashun for the young'uns

mml 08-04-2004 12:39 PM

Kerry/Edwards with enthusiasm.

Sparhawk 08-04-2004 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matteo101
Can you register in a state which you don't call home?
There are certain exceptions (military), but pretty much - no.

Also: I notice 5 Nader votes. At this time, he is only on the ballot in Nevada and New Jersey. I don't even know how many ballots Badnarik will get on...

lloydo 08-04-2004 02:01 PM

Voting for Badnarik, if he makes it on the Oklahoma ballot. If not I will probably leave the Presidential choice blank. I just don't think I could fill in that arrow for either Bush or Kerry.

Paq 08-04-2004 04:11 PM

i know i replied once, but i honestly thought there were far more conservative bush votes on this board than kerry people. It's almost 2 to 1 right now for kerry...

'm kinda shocked, but i know message boards tend to be more liberal, but 2 to 1...wow, and yeah, i know, i'm not counting the other two choices in this

BigGov 08-04-2004 04:31 PM

Many conservatives don't like Bush either though.

So they vote for the lesser of two evils instead of coming to the light side of us third-partiers :(

That and a lot of people can stop by and vote in a little poll.

sailor 08-05-2004 07:59 AM

Kerry. Im of the opinion that Bush has done too much damage already, and its time for him to go. Kerry has the best chance of making that happen.

Im also not too opposed to Kerry. He seems like a smart man, and, for a politician, not too sleazy (Im not a fan of politicians, if you cant tell ;)).

98MustGT 08-05-2004 09:56 AM

I fall into the part Republican part Libertarian crowd. I have some issues with Bush (stem cell, immigration etc) but would reluctantly choose him over Kerry. I read this in the Sac Bee.


Mr. Kerry, in your convention speech you threw caution to the wind and endorsed what you called "one of the oldest Commandments: 'Honor thy father and thy mother'." Oldest? Were they not all published together?
Here are some other questions:
You invoke the Commandment to explain why you "will not cut" Social Security benefits. Does that include raising the retirement age, which Congress set at 65 in 1935, when the life expectancy of an American male was 62?
Regarding military action, your platform says "we will never wait for a green light from abroad when our safety is at stake." But the platform's preceding paragraph denounces President Bush's "doctrine of unilateral pre-emption." If unilateralism is wrong, are you not committed to some sort of "green light from abroad"?
Are you glad that in 1981 Israel set back Iraq's nuclear weapons program with a unilateral pre-emptive attack on the reactor near Baghdad?
Your platform says: "A nuclear-armed Iran is an unacceptable risk." But Iran's radical Islamist regime is undeterred by diplomatic hand-wringing about its acquisition of nuclear weapons, which may be imminent. Is pre-emptive military action against Iran feasible, or are its nuclear facilities too dispersed and hardened? What would you do other than accept Iran as a nuclear power?
Taiwan's President Chen Shui-bian says, "We have reached an internal consensus that insists on Taiwan being an independent sovereign country." Beijing's military chief recently said Taiwan will be reunified with the mainland by 2020, the first reunification deadline ever set. On an island physically similar to Taiwan, Beijing recently simulated an invasion. Would you respond with force — unilaterally, if necessary — to defend Taiwan?
The Clinton years were, you say, glorious because "we were not at war and young Americans were not deployed." Did not the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, followed by the attacks on the Khobar Towers, the USS Cole and the East African embassies mean we were at war but were uncomprehending? Have not scores of thousands of young Americans been deployed, ashore and on ships, since 1942?
You supported humanitarian military interventions in Somalia, the Balkans and Haiti. Would you intervene militarily to stop the accelerating genocide in Sudan?
You say, "I stood up and fought against Richard Nixon's war in Vietnam." Nixon's war? Did it start after John Kennedy put U.S. combat troops there, and after Lyndon Johnson increased the number to 500,000?
The easily distressed abortion rights groups were distressed when you said that your faith teaches you what elementary biology teaches everyone: life begins at conception. But you say personhood does not. Fine. When does it? What are its defining attributes? Does, say, an elderly person with dementia have it, and hence a right to life?
You oppose, on federalism grounds, a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. You say marriage law is traditionally a state responsibility. But so was abortion law for the Republic's first 197 years, until 1973. What is the difference?
When the Pope said Catholic legislators have a duty to oppose gay marriage, you said he had "crossed the line" because "it is important not to have the Church instructing politicians." Have you felt that way even when the Church has instructed politicians take liberal positions regarding economic justice, race and other matters?
Your platform says, "The price of gas is at an all-time high." But it isn't as measured in constant (inflation-adjusted) dollars, or as a portion of Americans' purchasing power. Do you have some other way of justifying the platform's claim?
You have often said — e.g., in Algona, Iowa, last year, when your campaign was impoverished — that "there's too much money loose in the American political system." Now your campaign is awash with money. So are the 527 groups that are supporting your campaign — but of course without even a smidgen of "coordination" with it, because that would be a crime under the new campaign finance law. Do you advocate new laws to discourage the kind of people who are choosing to participate in politics through financial contributions on your behalf?
You and other supporters of increased government regulation of political spending say this does not abridge freedom of speech. What does most of your spending pay for?
Throwing caution to the wind, your platform insists that "small towns are at the heart of America." Your sense of America's small-town heartbeat comes from where — Sun Valley?

Journeyman 08-05-2004 10:19 AM

Quote:

When the Pope said Catholic legislators have a duty to oppose gay marriage, you said he had "crossed the line" because "it is important not to have the Church instructing politicians." Have you felt that way even when the Church has instructed politicians take liberal positions regarding economic justice, race and other matters?
It's not taking instructions from the Church when the party swings that way to begin with. And personally, I figure that even if John Paul himself grabbed Kerry by the testicals and threatened excommunication, Bush is more likely to legislate his religion into the lives of citizens than John Kerry.

98MustGT 08-05-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Journeyman
It's not taking instructions from the Church when the party swings that way to begin with. And personally, I figure that even if John Paul himself grabbed Kerry by the testicals and threatened excommunication, Bush is more likely to legislate his religion into the lives of citizens than John Kerry.
Good point

Delvid 08-05-2004 11:51 AM

Kerry/Edwards. We have alienated the entire world and its the only place I have to live. I prefer friends and allies to occupation of the liberated.

dylanmarsh 08-05-2004 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matteo101
I am Canadian so I will not participate in the poll..but if I were an American Citizen, I would not only vote Kery/Edwards, but I would travel to a "battleground" state to vote.

Actually, if you felt like breaking Arizona law, you could just take a name out of the telephone book with the address and vote for that person without the bothersome task of providing identification. Ahhhhh, what a great way to mess-up another election! :(

mapleburner21 08-05-2004 01:04 PM

Bush

There could be better conservatives but he wont do the damage I see Kerry pledging to do. Liberal economics is an economics of slavery. They enslave the poorer classes by promising to take money from the wealthy and give it to them without realizing the economic effect of that and how it always backfires.

98MustGT 08-05-2004 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mapleburner21
Bush

There could be better conservatives but he wont do the damage I see Kerry pledging to do. Liberal economics is an economics of slavery. They enslave the poorer classes by promising to take money from the wealthy and give it to them without realizing the economic effect of that and how it always backfires.

Economics is the prime reason I vote Republican. Trust me I am not rich.

Does anyone remember what happened to the yachting industry in the early 1990s? I cannot remember the details however they wanted 'the rich' to pay their fair share so the gov't added a special tax cause only the rich have yachts. Well what did the rich do, they refurnished their yachts or bought yachts overseas and registered them in other countries or simply did not buy a yacht cause they were now too much money.

Hence the yachting industry was devistated, people lost their jobs, some yacht companies went out of business.

So who got hurt by taxing the rich? Joe Yachtworker.

Flyguy 08-05-2004 02:38 PM

Kerry/Edwards

Flyguy 08-05-2004 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mapleburner21
Bush

There could be better conservatives but he wont do the damage I see Kerry pledging to do. Liberal economics is an economics of slavery. They enslave the poorer classes by promising to take money from the wealthy and give it to them without realizing the economic effect of that and how it always backfires.

Just like trickle down economics that Bush tried to copy off Reagan but he fucked it up.

Dwayne 08-05-2004 06:01 PM

Im going to vote for who I think is the best candidate every year after this one. However I am voting Kerry this year because he is the best chance to overthrough Bush.

MSD 08-05-2004 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matteo101
Can you register in a state which you don't call home?
Only if you live there for more than 6 months per year (like a college student whose school is out-of-state.)


I'm voting for Badnarik. I don't like Bush, I don't particularly like Kerry, and I am not going to compromise and settle for the lesser of two evils. I know my candidate is probably not going to win, but unless those who support him do so at the polls, nothign will ever change.

Bill O'Rights 08-06-2004 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
I know my candidate is probably not going to win, but unless those who support him do so at the polls, nothign will ever change.
BINGO!! :thumbsup:

I constantly hear how a vote for the Libertarian Party is a wasted vote. I don't see it that way. No vote is wasted, so long as you vote for your beliefs. So what if Badnarik doesn't win? I hold no illusion that he will. But, if nothing else, I'm sending a message. That message is that I am sick and damn well tired of the same tired old business as usual. My vote is more than just another cog in the political machine.


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