So Michael Moore is going to be on the O'Reilly Factor tonight - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

The_wall · 07-27-2004, 09:17 AM

This should be interesting hehe. I think Michael Moore will have a good 15 maybe 20 seconds to talk before he's told to "shut up! just shut the hell up! You're unamerican!"

Averett · 07-27-2004, 09:18 AM

Oh wow, really? That might just be worth watching

Superbelt · 07-27-2004, 09:21 AM

Ba psch, Sean Hannity is on Al Franken's show right now

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

That's cats and dogs in a small cage.
And it's getting kinda ugly.

absorbentishe · 07-27-2004, 09:57 AM

Definately worth watching tonight then...

Paq · 07-27-2004, 10:03 AM

DAMNNN
for one night for me not to have cable...

ok, so it's a month w/out tv...oh well

DAMN!!!
i can't believe i'm gonna miss this..

I do bet oreilly calls him unamerican at least once
and that the interview will become..heated.

could someone post a recap when it's done. thanks

MSD · 07-27-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Ba psch, Sean Hannity is on Al Franken's show right now

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

That's cats and dogs in a small cage.
And it's getting kinda ugly.

Crap, can't get the streaming audio to work

Charlatan · 07-27-2004, 10:29 AM

Why is Moore even bothering? It is just going to be O'Reilly yelling at him... better to leave well enough alone.

wonderwench · 07-27-2004, 10:37 AM

Michael Moore is an
Attention Whore; he can't resist
the primetime telly.

Superbelt · 07-27-2004, 10:41 AM

Michael and Bill met at the Convention. Bill asked Michael when he would do his show, Michael said after Bill finishes watching F 9/11. Bill said he did and Mike apparently took him at his word and agreed.

They laid down terms on how the format will go. They alternate asking questions of each other. Bill promised to air the entire thing unedited.

Averett · 07-27-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by wonderwench
Michael Moore is an
Attention Whore; he can't resist
the primetime telly.

So's O'Reilly. He knows this will get his show monster ratings. And isn't all really about the ratings?

wonderwench · 07-27-2004, 10:48 AM

O'Reilly already has the highest rated news program on cable and of course he wants to increase his viewership. I doubt he would deny it.

I'd like to see Moore and the Dems admit that Moore is part of their political machine. The claims of his being a documentarian ring hollow when he can be seen sitting in the presidential box at the Dem Convention.

lurkette · 07-27-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by wonderwench
Michael Moore is an
Attention Whore; he can't resist
the primetime telly.

Nice haiku! (One syllable too long, but damn cute anyhow!)

What on earth would be the point of watching this debacle? You KNOW what each of them is going to say - they're both more predictable than the fucking sunrise. It'll be like watching an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies (gosh, I never expected Jethro to do something dumb!) or 3's Company, only louder and more obnoxious and with no attractive women to look at. Don't waste a precious hour of your life on this painful rhetorical sideshow - go outside and...I dono...walk your dog, or eat some ice cream or something.

Kadath · 07-27-2004, 10:54 AM

wonderwench, surely if a newsman can have staunch political views, a documentarian can too?

I am looking forward to watching this. I watch TOF from time to time, and it appears the time has come back around.

Rekna · 07-27-2004, 10:55 AM

oriely has finally topped jerry springer

Rekna · 07-27-2004, 11:02 AM

ohh my it gets better.

from oreilly's webpage

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Hour 2:
Michael Moore and Ann Coulter
Bill faces off with Michael Moore at the DNC, and talks to Ann Coulter about her experience with USA Today concerning the DNC.

Ann Coulter!

Superbelt · 07-27-2004, 11:03 AM

Rather Moore in a skybox than what the Republicans have: Falwell giving the invocation on the first night of the convention.

wonderwench · 07-27-2004, 11:35 AM

Off topic but I can't resist.

The U.S. was founded on Judeo Christian values - to ignore the role of religion in defining a moral framework is to deny history.

Laws that are not based upon a moral structure end up as the arbitrary tools of totalitarians.

Bill O'Rights · 07-27-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Rather Moore in a skybox than what the Republicans have: Falwell giving the invocation on the first night of the convention.

What does that have to do with Moore being on The O'Reilly Factor?

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Originally posted by wonderwench
Off topic but I can't resist.

The U.S. was founded on Judeo Christian values - to ignore the role of religion in defining a moral framework is to deny history.

Laws that are not based upon a moral structure end up as the arbitrary tools of totalitarians.

Not this tired old argument/mantra...again.

And, yes it's way off topic. So far off that you'd need a map to find it. It's not relevant whatsoever to the thread, so let's do a "U" turn right now. Before it gets ugly.

cthulu23 · 07-27-2004, 11:38 AM

And no one exemplifies moral behavior better than Falwell, right? Maybe gays and the ACLU really are to blame for 9-11! Anyway, let's get back on topic......

the_marq · 07-27-2004, 11:40 AM

Man, these guys are both knobs of epic proportions. I hope to see a review of it here tomorrow as I can't get the O'Reily show in Canada.

roachboy · 07-27-2004, 11:44 AM

crap--i have to teach tonight.

ah well.....o'reilly is an epic tool and watching him is always an irritant--maybe i'll check in here for postgame nonsequitors and that will prompt me perhaps to watch the thing online.

nice to see, in a way, that the nonsequitor generator is turned fully on here--judeo-christian values? with reference to law? otherwise a tool for totalitarians? wtf?

Bill O'Rights · 07-27-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by roachboy
nice to see, in a way, that the nonsequitor generator is turned fully on here--judeo-christian values? with reference to law? otherwise a tool for totalitarians? wtf?

Let it go.

losthellhound · 07-27-2004, 11:48 AM

yay screaming matches! These "match-ups" are nothing more then stunts, but hey, its promoting both people.. thats what modern media is all about

ARTelevision · 07-27-2004, 11:52 AM

BTW, Sean Hannity on Al Franken's show was a civil and illuminating dialog - on the part of both men.

kutulu · 07-27-2004, 12:03 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Moore talk with O'Reily. Now I'll just have to convince my wife to watch it...

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Originally posted by Rekna
Ann Coulter!

I laughed my ass off when I read about the USA today incident. The aritcle in question is on world net daily. It's a total piece of trash. What else could you expect from that skinny whore?

seretogis · 07-27-2004, 12:32 PM

Let's hope that when Moore, Coulter, and O'Reilly are in the same building some sort of political implosion takes place which causes the three of them to disappear.

Bill O'Rights · 07-27-2004, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
What else could you expect from that skinny whore?

Not to single out kutulu...but, I'm going to anyway. I want the discussion in here raised to a higher level on the maturity-meter than what I've been seeing. It's not just this thread, it's not just kutulu...it's rampant throughout the politics board, and enough is enough. Of what possible value did the above quoted statement add to the post? None. And it's inflammatory. It takes an otherwise good post, and reduces it to one degree above an outright troll. It ends now, people.

pan6467 · 07-27-2004, 12:41 PM

It does sound like an interesting show.

As for Ann Coulter, I remember Al Franken was on Larry King or someone and they asked him about the people in his book Lying Liars.

Franken ripped a little on O'Reilly but nothing serious. But when Ann's name came up Franken said it was funny, he would talk to GOP people and they told him anything he wanted to say about Ann was the truth... that even GOP insiders found her totally nuts.

SLM3 · 07-27-2004, 12:46 PM

Here's the Coulter article from WorldNetDaily:

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Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston, conservatives are deploying a series of covert signals to identify one another, much like gay men do. My allies are the ones wearing crosses or American flags. The people sporting shirts emblazoned with the "F-word" are my opponents. Also, as always, the pretty girls and cops are on my side, most of them barely able to conceal their eye-rolling.

Democrats are constantly suing and slandering police as violent, fascist racists – with the exception of Boston's police, who'll be lauded as national heroes right up until the Democrats pack up and leave town on Friday, whereupon they'll revert to their natural state of being fascist, racist pigs.

A speaker at the Democratic National Convention this year, Al Sharpton, accused white police officers of raping and defacing Tawana Brawley in 1987, lunatic charges that eventually led to a defamation lawsuit against Sharpton, and even more eventually to Sharpton paying a jury award to the defamed plaintiff Steve Pagones. So it's a real mystery why cops wouldn't like Democrats.

As for the pretty girls, I can only guess that it's because liberal boys never try to make a move on you without the U.N. Security Council's approval. Plus, it's no fun riding around in those dinky little hybrid cars. My pretty-girl allies stick out like a sore thumb amongst the corn-fed, no make-up, natural fiber, no-bra needing, sandal-wearing, hirsute, somewhat fragrant hippie-chick pie wagons they call "women" at the Democratic National Convention.

Apparently, the nuts at the Democratic National Convention are going to be put in cages outside the convention hall. Sadly, they won't be fighting to the death as is done in W.W.F. caged matches. They're calling this the "protestor's area," although I suppose a better name would be the "truth-free zone."

I thought this was a great idea until I realized the "nut" category did not include Sharpton, Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy – all featured speakers at the convention. I'd say the actual policy is only untelegenic nuts get the cages, but little Dennis Kucinich is speaking at the Convention, too. So it must be cages for "nuts who have not run for president as serious candidates for the Democratic Party."

Looking at the line-up of speakers at the Convention, I have developed the 7-11 challenge: I will quit making fun of, for example, Dennis Kucinich, if he can prove he can run a 7-11 properly for 8 hours. We'll even let him have an hour or so of preparation before we open up. Within 8 hours, the money will be gone, the store will be empty, and he'll be explaining how three 11-year olds came in and asked for the money and he gave it to them.

For 20 years, the Democrats wouldn't let Jimmy Carter within 100 miles of a Convention podium. The fact that Carter is now their most respectable speaker tells you where that party is today. Maybe they just want to remind Americans who got us into this Middle East mess in the first place. We've got millions of fanatical Muslims trying to slaughter Americans while shouting "Allah Akbar!" Yeah, let's turn the nation over to these guys.

With any luck, Gore will uncork his speech comparing Republicans to Nazis. Just a few weeks ago, Gore gave a speech accusing the Bush administration of deploying "digital Brown Shirts" to intimidate journalists and pressure the media into writing good things about Bush – in case you were wondering where all those glowing articles about Bush were coming from.

The last former government official to slake his thirst so deeply with the Kool-Aid and become a far-left peacenik was Ramsey Clarke and it took him a few years to really blossom. Clinton must have done some number on Gore. Then again, with his yen for earth tones in a man's wardrobe, maybe Gore's references to "Brown Shirts" was intended as a compliment.

Only one major newspaper – the Boston Herald – reported Gore's "Brown Shirt" comment, though a Bush campaign spokesman's statement quoting the "Brown Shirt" line made it into the very last sentence of a Los Angeles Times article. The New York Times responded with an article criticizing "both" Republicans and Democrats for using Nazi imagery. Democrats call Republicans Nazis, the Republicans quote the Democrats calling Republicans Nazis and "both" are using Nazi imagery. (It's a cycle of violence!)

The nuts in the cages are virtual Bertrand Russells compared to the official speakers at the Democratic Convention. On the basis of their placards, I gather the caged-nut position is that they love the troops so much, they don't want them to get hurt defending America from terrorist attack. "Support the troops," the signs say, "bring them home."

That's my new position on all government workers, except the 5 percent who aren't useless, which is to say cops, prosecutors, firemen and U.S. servicemen. I love bureaucrats at the National Endowment of the Arts funding crucifixes submerged in urine so much – I think they should go home. I love public school teachers punishing any mention of God and banning Christmas songs so much – I think they should go home.

Walking back from the convention site, I chatted with a normal Bostonian for several blocks – who must have identified me through our covert system of signals. He was mostly bemused by the Democrats' primetime speakers and told me he used to be an independent, but for the last 20 years found himself voting mostly Republican. Then he corrected himself and said he votes for the "American."

I'd say I love all these Democrats in Boston so much I want them to go home, but I don't. I want Americans to get a good long look at the French Party and keep the 7-11 challenge in mind.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=39644

assilem · 07-27-2004, 01:13 PM

I'm just excited to see two big fat blubbering sensationalists flap their gums. It will be entertaining if anything.

pan6467 · 07-27-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by assilem
I'm just excited to see two big fat blubbering sensationalists flap their gums. It will be entertaining if anything.

Funniest thing I've read all day, and truthful. Thank you for adding humor to my day.

Seaver · 07-27-2004, 01:53 PM

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Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston

I'm conservative... but I stopped reading the article right there...

kutulu · 07-27-2004, 01:53 PM

It's too bad MM and AC won't be on at the same time. I'd love to see that. However, keeping it just Moore and O'Riely will have better debate.

My main problem with AC is that her editorials consistantly lack any shred of evidence to back up her opinions. I would never expect an editorial columnist to present both sides of the story but I'd like her columns to have more to it than "Democrates hate America and want everyone to go gay, oh and by the way they are racists"

She just needs a reality check. A piece like that might fit in with an ulta-extreme right wing publication (even then it's a maybe) but USA is looking for a columnist that is actually going to attack their issues, not just do a bunch of name calling. Seriously, what were they thinking in the first place?

I don't know if anyone knows this, but I think Moore is going to write editorials for USA Today regarding the RNC.

assilem · 07-27-2004, 02:17 PM

I just read the transcript on Drudge. Link

It was not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I still want to see it though.

laconic1 · 07-27-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Seaver
I'm conservative... but I stopped reading the article right there...

So did I. It just makes us look bad when someone make foolish statements that don't accomplish anything

losthellhound · 07-27-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by crazybill5280
Me too. It just makes us look bad.

That is interesting. Its good to know that estremists like Coulter can rein in Conservatives and make them think twice, much like Michael Moore sometimes does. It means that no matter how extreme either side gets, there are moderates willing to take a second look and re-evaluate how they feel

Superbelt · 07-27-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by ARTelevision
BTW, Sean Hannity on Al Franken's show was a civil and illuminating dialog - on the part of both men.

You're right. The first half was getting tense but then the exchanges mellowed out and it ended quite well.
I was expecting the worst and was surprised.

kutulu · 07-27-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by losthellhound
That is interesting. Its good to know that estremists like Coulter can rein in Conservatives and make them think twice, much like Michael Moore sometimes does. It means that no matter how extreme either side gets, there are moderates willing to take a second look and re-evaluate how they feel

Of course Moore is extreme, but he's not extreme like Coulter. I put Moore more on the level of Rush. Both like to inject their own brand of humor and both do make an attempt to provide a factual background to go with their commentary.

Bill O'Rights · 07-27-2004, 02:56 PM

MUCH better, guys.

roachboy · 07-27-2004, 04:50 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127140,00.html

am i just confused, or does o'reilly's column say that the moor thing is being shown tomorrow night (wednesday)?

07-27-2004, 09:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	So Michael Moore is going to be on the O'Reilly Factor tonight This should be interesting hehe. I think Michael Moore will have a good 15 maybe 20 seconds to talk before he's told to "shut up! just shut the hell up! You're unamerican!" __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

07-27-2004, 09:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	Oh wow, really? That might just be worth watching __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

07-27-2004, 10:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Paq Junkie Location: South Carolina	DAMNNN for one night for me not to have cable... ok, so it's a month w/out tv...oh well DAMN!!! i can't believe i'm gonna miss this.. I do bet oreilly calls him unamerican at least once and that the interview will become..heated. could someone post a recap when it's done. thanks __________________ Live. Chris

07-27-2004, 10:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Why is Moore even bothering? It is just going to be O'Reilly yelling at him... better to leave well enough alone. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

07-27-2004, 10:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	wonderwench, surely if a newsman can have staunch political views, a documentarian can too? I am looking forward to watching this. I watch TOF from time to time, and it appears the time has come back around. __________________ it's quiet in here

07-27-2004, 09:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Ba psch, Sean Hannity is on Al Franken's show right now http://www.airamericaradio.com/ That's cats and dogs in a small cage. And it's getting kinda ugly.

07-27-2004, 09:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
absorbentishe Boy am I horny today Location: T O L E D O, Toledo!!	Definately worth watching tonight then...

07-27-2004, 10:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
wonderwench Banned	Michael Moore is an Attention Whore; he can't resist the primetime telly.

07-27-2004, 10:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Michael and Bill met at the Convention. Bill asked Michael when he would do his show, Michael said after Bill finishes watching F 9/11. Bill said he did and Mike apparently took him at his word and agreed. They laid down terms on how the format will go. They alternate asking questions of each other. Bill promised to air the entire thing unedited.

07-27-2004, 10:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
wonderwench Banned	O'Reilly already has the highest rated news program on cable and of course he wants to increase his viewership. I doubt he would deny it. I'd like to see Moore and the Dems admit that Moore is part of their political machine. The claims of his being a documentarian ring hollow when he can be seen sitting in the presidential box at the Dem Convention.

07-27-2004, 10:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rekna Junkie	oriely has finally topped jerry springer

07-27-2004, 11:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Rather Moore in a skybox than what the Republicans have: Falwell giving the invocation on the first night of the convention.

07-27-2004, 11:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
wonderwench Banned	Off topic but I can't resist. The U.S. was founded on Judeo Christian values - to ignore the role of religion in defining a moral framework is to deny history. Laws that are not based upon a moral structure end up as the arbitrary tools of totalitarians.

07-27-2004, 11:38 AM	#19 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	And no one exemplifies moral behavior better than Falwell, right? Maybe gays and the ACLU really are to blame for 9-11! Anyway, let's get back on topic......

07-27-2004, 11:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	Man, these guys are both knobs of epic proportions. I hope to see a review of it here tomorrow as I can't get the O'Reily show in Canada. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

07-27-2004, 11:44 AM	#21 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	crap--i have to teach tonight. ah well.....o'reilly is an epic tool and watching him is always an irritant--maybe i'll check in here for postgame nonsequitors and that will prompt me perhaps to watch the thing online. nice to see, in a way, that the nonsequitor generator is turned fully on here--judeo-christian values? with reference to law? otherwise a tool for totalitarians? wtf? __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

07-27-2004, 11:48 AM	#23 (permalink)
losthellhound Thats MR. Muffin Face now Location: Everywhere work sends me	yay screaming matches! These "match-ups" are nothing more then stunts, but hey, its promoting both people.. thats what modern media is all about __________________ "Life is possible only with illusions. And so, the question for the science of mental health must become an absolutely new and revolutionary one, yet one that reflects the essence of the human condition: On what level of illusion does one live?" -- Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

07-27-2004, 11:52 AM	#24 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	BTW, Sean Hannity on Al Franken's show was a civil and illuminating dialog - on the part of both men. __________________ create evolution

07-27-2004, 12:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Let's hope that when Moore, Coulter, and O'Reilly are in the same building some sort of political implosion takes place which causes the three of them to disappear. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

07-27-2004, 12:41 PM	#28 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	It does sound like an interesting show. As for Ann Coulter, I remember Al Franken was on Larry King or someone and they asked him about the people in his book Lying Liars. Franken ripped a little on O'Reilly but nothing serious. But when Ann's name came up Franken said it was funny, he would talk to GOP people and they told him anything he wanted to say about Ann was the truth... that even GOP insiders found her totally nuts. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

07-27-2004, 01:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
assilem Insane Location: Eternity	I'm just excited to see two big fat blubbering sensationalists flap their gums. It will be entertaining if anything. __________________ The mother of mankind, what time his pride Had cast him out from Heaven, with all his host Of rebel Angels

07-27-2004, 01:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	It's too bad MM and AC won't be on at the same time. I'd love to see that. However, keeping it just Moore and O'Riely will have better debate. My main problem with AC is that her editorials consistantly lack any shred of evidence to back up her opinions. I would never expect an editorial columnist to present both sides of the story but I'd like her columns to have more to it than "Democrates hate America and want everyone to go gay, oh and by the way they are racists" She just needs a reality check. A piece like that might fit in with an ulta-extreme right wing publication (even then it's a maybe) but USA is looking for a columnist that is actually going to attack their issues, not just do a bunch of name calling. Seriously, what were they thinking in the first place? I don't know if anyone knows this, but I think Moore is going to write editorials for USA Today regarding the RNC. Last edited by kutulu; 07-27-2004 at 01:57 PM..

07-27-2004, 02:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
assilem Insane Location: Eternity	I just read the transcript on Drudge. Link It was not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I still want to see it though. __________________ The mother of mankind, what time his pride Had cast him out from Heaven, with all his host Of rebel Angels

07-27-2004, 02:56 PM	#39 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	MUCH better, guys. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

07-27-2004, 04:50 PM	#40 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127140,00.html am i just confused, or does o'reilly's column say that the moor thing is being shown tomorrow night (wednesday)? __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite