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Old 06-07-2004, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DO YOU HATE POLITICS?

Perhaps I'm not reaching my target audience here in TFPolitics, but I just had a thought about my love-hate relationship to politics.

It seems to me that one major aspect of a government is to provide some kind of consistency for its constituents through its institution of policies, even if it is only in theory.

Politics, in this sense, is when people in power who have differing ideas compete over what exactly should be a consistent part of policy.

That being said, Emerson would point out that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," and I would tend to agree.

Now there are obviously a million reasons to be interested in politics ('even if you don't take an interest in politics, it will take an interest in you'), but I'm just wondering if most of the people who are interested in talking about politics all the time just aren't as bothered by the things that bother me. I participate and stay relatively well-informed but, frankly, politics feel bad and I'm often disinclined to enter this particular forum. I wish I could find a more eloquent way to say that.

Am I just giving a different name to the disillusionment with the state of world affairs that most others are feeling?
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Old 06-07-2004, 08:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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YES I DO!

THANK YOU FOR ASKING!
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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People seem to look at politics and wonder why they just don't come to a consensus and do something that matters.

The reason, of course, is that politics is what happens when that doesn't work. Moreover, politics is the way we do business here. In my mind, if you try to get rid of the politics, you wind up with an authoritarian scheme of some kind. It might be a benevolent despotism or oligarchy, but it wouldn't be a democracy.

I'll make one qualification. Participants in the political process must enter with honest intentions and respect for the process. The process is competitive by design. Each side makes the best case they can for their policy, hopefully persuading some of their colleagues, and then a vote is taken, with the defeated minority respecting the majority's decision. Political parties and elaborate issues complicate the process, but the idea is still intact.

The thing that frustrates me is that the political process has become too focused on power, campaigning, and fundraising. We elect these people to govern the country, not cover their own asses. It's an unfortunate situation, and hopefully a visionary legislator will fix it some day.
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Old 06-08-2004, 12:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i don't hate politics. i hate political party ideology and blind adhearnce to them.
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I feel the political arena is what guides part of my future. Thus it has a serious effect on my life, that is why I pay attention to it. I do dislike aspects of politics, but that is the very nature of the beast. I simply cannot ignore that which will guide my country, and in effect my wellbieng in the next ten or twenty years....let alone my kids lives.
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Old 06-08-2004, 05:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The thing that frustrates me is that the political process has become too focused on power, campaigning, and fundraising. We elect these people to govern the country, not cover their own asses.
This is precisely why I'm so disillusioned with politics. I took 3 political science courses last year, thinking I might like to be a political scientist major, but I learned little more in theory than that the goal of any smart politician is to have power. What are the nuts and bolts of the theory? To campaign and fundraise in order to gain and retain that power. I have to say that I was much more enthusiastic about politics in general before I knew that all the dirty stuff I hated about it was standard political theory.
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Old 06-10-2004, 08:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am utterly fascinated by politics. May have liberal views myself, but I'm interested in all sides, all the mechanics, all the wheeling and dealing. Can't stay away. I'm a politics junkie.
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Old 06-11-2004, 01:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I truly enjoy politics, hell I spent 5 years of college studying it, so I hope I like it. I often hate what individual politicians do, but I love politics as a whole.
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