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Strange Famous · 04-08-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Lebell
Nonsense and other words.

The socialists were likely to lose until those trains were bombed. The Spanish public then panicked and voted for the socialists who said they would get out of Iraq.

Well guess what, like blackmailers, once you start bargaining with terrorists you never stop.

And yes, troops will continue to get killed because the extremists will not stop.

Just the same way that civilians will continue to be killed even if we pulled out and gave in.

Simply false, before the bombings all predictions were that the Spanish election was neck and neck.

Lebell · 04-08-2004, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by filtherton
[B] Hippies like nixon and johnson? Yes, that's right. I forgot that the hippies were responsible for planning major combat strategies and fighting a losing war against an underdog enemy. Sweet revisionism, thy taste is like honeydrops.

You're great at putting words in other people's mouths.

Hippies I said and hippies I meant.

It was the American public's lack of will as much as Johnson's unwillingness to commit to total war that caused us to lose in Viet Nam.

Calling it "revisionism" is BS, plain and simple.

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I know the strategy. I don't know if it will work. I hate to be pessimistic, but i don't see how this situation could possibly be under control in 90 days when we're due to hand over power.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

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The spanish government is pulling out of a war that most of its people didn't want to participate in. I hope you're aware that the only links iraq has to al qaeda were the ones that have sprouted up as a result of our invasion.

They haven't "sprung up" so much as there are foreign insurgents in Iraq fighting along side of what is left of Hussein's security forces. That of course and the barbarians that want a civil war so they can step into the power vacuum.

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Perhaps the people of spain want to concentrate on terrorism as opposed to sacrificing the lives of their countrymen and women for an american grudge-war. This would make sense when you take into account the fact that spain is not pulling out of afghanistan, just iraq.

We'll see if they stay in Afghanistan or not.

And you call it a grudge war, I call it a war we should have finished over 10 years ago, but better late than never.

Hussein is gone and good f***ing riddence.

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To you this is appeasement? Fair enough, we're all entitled to interpret events with our own set of eyes. If you want a more accurate image of appeasement, see the u.s. alliance with uzbekistan. C'mon, how ironic is it for an american citizen to denounce another country for appeasement. We're the appeasingest appeasers in appeasington.

Believe it or not, I am not a puppet for the government and I agree that we shouldn't support every dictator that agrees with us.

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Furthermore, you're in no position to judge the bahavior of the spanish. For one, you don't know if they will bow to these demands. They were already going to pull out of iraq. I'd be surprised if they pulled out of afghanistan, but that's just me.

No, I don't know, time will tell.

But I'm in as good a position to judge the Spanish as you are to judge Bush.

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How many threats have they gotten due to their "appeasement"? I've only heard of this one. How many threats has the u.s. gotten with our philosophy of selective non iraq/afghani
appeasment?

Considering that this threat apparently came from the same people who carried out the bombings, it would seem to me that it is plenty.

So are you saying then that we should aim for the lowest number of threats?

Or better yet, we should be happy if terrorists only kill a couple of hundred Americans instead of a couple of thousand?

No thanks.

You can hide in the flock with the rest, but I prefer to fight back.

Lebell · 04-08-2004, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by Sparhawk
If you called say General Westmoreland or Richard Nixon a hippy, well, I'd like to see what happens.

And I'm not convinced that there is a strategy, except for making sure we wash our hands of it before the election, so it can be touted as another successful battleground in the war on terror.

As for your last bullet, that link is dated yesterday. The new prime minister said several weeks ago that he would withdraw troops from Iraq. But how exactly is he appeasing the fundamentalists when he says he'll be increasing troop levels in Afghanistan?

I believe I've answered your questions in my other recent posts, but let me know if I haven't.

Lebell · 04-08-2004, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by Strange Famous
Simply false, before the bombings all predictions were that the Spanish election was neck and neck.

Not "Simply false".

If you want to be technical, the reports I saw had the incumbant party with a slight lead and it was thought they would win.

Of course, after the bombings, they lost by a landslide.

Pacifier · 04-08-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by Lebell
Of course, after the bombings, they lost by a landslide.

yep, but not because of the bombing, they lost because of thier actions after the bombing.

and I'm quite happy that this franco lover aznar is gone.

Lebell · 04-08-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Pacifier
yep, but not because of the bombing, they lost because of thier actions after the bombing.

That I believe is your opinion, which is fine.

So far, I don't have any reason to change mine.

analog · 04-08-2004, 02:03 AM

Massively off-topic.

This thread went off-topic after only 10 posts.

From what I see, you're talking about all kinds of other shit apart from Ann Coulter, and you're yelling at each other about hippies and Spain.

If you'd like to debate hippies and Spain, please start a new thread just for that.

MSD · 04-08-2004, 07:25 AM

oops

edit: Sorry, the problem with the quick reply box is that it doesn't disappear for moderators when the thread is closed. I had skipped down to the bottom without noticing Analog's post in order to reply to another post.

I've pulled my post to avoid being the asshole who puts his opinion in after the thread is closed.

04-08-2004, 02:03 AM	#47 (permalink)
analog Banned	Massively off-topic. This thread went off-topic after only 10 posts. From what I see, you're talking about all kinds of other shit apart from Ann Coulter, and you're yelling at each other about hippies and Spain. If you'd like to debate hippies and Spain, please start a new thread just for that.

04-08-2004, 07:25 AM	#48 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	oops edit: Sorry, the problem with the quick reply box is that it doesn't disappear for moderators when the thread is closed. I had skipped down to the bottom without noticing Analog's post in order to reply to another post. I've pulled my post to avoid being the asshole who puts his opinion in after the thread is closed.