If Bush is re-elected
 

What would you do?

Ontario is nice in November.....isn't it?

Weep.

weep for now... but canada is looking better everyday..

Naked!

My faith in humanity will go from 0 to -1

Bitch for another four years and wonder if the Dems will be able to beat whoever the Republicans put up in '08.

Cement in stone my belief that the Tilted Politics board is inhabited by liberals. Follow the mass departure. Then I remember that youth and liberal thinking go hand in hand.

Thank the conservative Americans for saving America from the sweet talking, no backbone, elvis wannabe, bullshit artist.

Even the poll is trolling and capable of generating flames.

**I know I should have hit the back button, but this is henious**

Celebrate the fact that we'll have a real president in office again, instead of, well, John Kerry.

Damn....got some issues gion' on there, huh?
Talk about flaming....geez.

I dont troll, but thanx.

start campaining for what i want in 08

powell in office i think that would be a good setup for the next election

to bad he says he won't do it

The only thing your poll was missing is:

Makes Baby Jesus Cry

The Atlantic fleet trolls less.

1, 4, and 5. But you missed 6 - Stay and fight.

But this is a massive troll, on that I do agree with the conservatives.

To anyone who answers 3 I say good riddance, the country is better off without you.

If Bush wins again the US will become Germany in the 1930's.

:D

You may not like Bush, he may be a bad President but there is nothing behind the statement that Bush is similar to Hitler or that the current state of the US is close to Germany.

All that shows is that you are.. just making a joke :), comments lately have been thrown around by Bush bashers and it doesnt surprise me to see the comparison seriously thrown out there.

User although I agree you, I think you missed the smiley. I could be wrong though and misinterpreted the smiley.

Could not agree with you more.

However, in the event that President Bush gets a second term, I will most likely bitch and moan a little while I tie one on, and then start looking for ways to curb the damage Bush's second term will do to America.

But I am an American, and proud of it, and would never leave this country - that is a defeatist, cowardly and vicerally unpatriotic stance.

In the last week I have agreed with one2time and Mojo_PeiPei - what is going on!!!!!!:)

CJ,
That's a little over the top. I see what you might be getting at though. Another stolen election by the Bush Bund would have a certain resemblance in method to the early rise of the Nazi party in Germany. However, let us give the current occupant of the whitehouse some things: a ideologically identical media arm (in Faux News, Rush, NY Post, and the Freep), and the endorsement of some terrorist groups (Operation Rescue, al-Qaeda) does not give Son of Bush either the reality or even the intention of an SA, even if sometime the shirts do look a little brownish, that's just seeing the world through crap colored glasses.

George W. Bush is not Adolph Hitler. Incompetent does equal Evil. Mentally Challenged is not Psychotic. Bloody Minded does not have to equal bloody handed, and there is not even the hint of a shade of a whiff of an inkling of genocide here.

Also, while there are certain similarities, there are every bit as many differences: The US does not have a national inferiority or persecution complex as Germany had after being defeated in WWI. We haven't lost a major war ever, and, unless there's a successful Indian uprising or Mexican invasion, we will never have land that we have colonized taken from us. We have living space to spare. You can carry the price of all your groceries in cash in your wallet - it doesn't take a wheelbarrow (though that could change if Bush is re-elected. Flip side of that is, if he screws it up royally, his party gets voted out of office and we see a new New Deal.) as it did in interwar Germany. We have a 200 year old tradition of mildy corrupt but stunningly well constructed democracy, not an infant democracy with a constitution that virtually doomed it to an early end.

GW may - is say <i>may</i> - be a racist. It would be hard to prove, but I suppose it is possible. What he is not is a white supremacist. Republicans, with the possible exception of Tom Delay, are not the KKK, and that's (other than neo-nazis) the closest thing we have to Nazis in this country.

Finally, all Nazis are fascists, but most fascists are not Nazis. Mussolini said that fascism ought to be called corporatism, since it implied a very close union of business and government. GW may be verging on that, but that's no argument for Naziism, though it is the single best argument to challenge every last return in his favor that came from a Deibold machine this fall.

Username, I think shallowminded is a bit harsh. Hasty, maybe, or even lazy, but not necessarily shallow. I've done it before myself, but, as I hope i have demonstrated, I really mean there are some points of similarity but none of identity, and that there are also differences.

Kind of like calling the NEA a terrorist group. I see where he was coming from (hyperbole and frustration), and there are points of similarity, but none of identity.

2 year old wants juice. Gotta git. Interesting thread.

If President Bush is re-elected we will have continuity in our war effort. Yes that is important, especially to our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen.

If President Bush is re-elected we will have continuity in our economic arena. Yes, things appear to be getting better. Yes, we need tax reform and medical coverage but we are not ready for them or we would have them.

I definately do not agree with some of his methods. The presidency is like a computer, faulty information in = faulty decisions out or shit in = shit out. I do understand that he is only acting on the information given to him, the facts as they are known at that time and supporting the people that elected him (that is the American way BTW).

IMO - America is going to get sucked into a huge event in the next 1-5 years. I suggest a strong national defense, huge war chest and some loyal support for our leadership. Lessons on citizenship from the Viet Nam war should be ingrained in our hearts and minds by now.

Yeah, but I think calling me one2time evens you out.

:D

Weep. Openly. But i'll still follow my own path and dance naked on the roof anyway. bwaha! i spite you all!

I'm not as worried about Bush as I am of Ashcroft. There also seems to be some almost nixon like things coming out now about Bush in these 9/11 hearings. This is what i fear in a Bush win. Not saying kerry's the ideal choice but still a better option in my eyes.

OOPS! One too many margaritas. Did I mention it is 89 degrees and my pool is warm enough to swim in? :D

Life is good in the Sonoran Desert.

I'm a registered Democrat and I would vote for him in a hartbeat.

I'll save my comments about our "President" for some other time.

LoL ........ I wasn't being serious.

Wow such choices!

The people that are moving to Canada please take that Baldwin freak with you, because seems he forgot to leave the last time.

If and thats a big IF Kerry is elected you might want to

a. lock up your wallet
b. build some kind of bomb shelter
c. then you can break out the bong, and peace and love beads.

This country can not go through another pussifacation that we recieved from the previous administration.

And yes this poll is a huge flame baiting troll.

Don't worry, both threads are being watched to see if they get out of hand.

I'll whine, I'll bitch. And I'll check the phone for bugs, then I'll whine again, then meet with some people who doesn't like Bush and whine and bitch with them. :D And hope that his 2nd term, he will do better than his first one. Or else its off to the way of Ol' Yeller he goes. :D

All right! Count me in:cool:


If he gets in again I'll feel sorry for everybody...not just the citizens of the US.

It's funny, I read that as "post" instead of poll.

Canada is full up, unless you are a skilled tradesman, refugee, have family here who is willing to sponsor you, 1 to 2 bachelors degrees and a job offer, fluent in both english and french and a PhD in an area we are short of, have half a million CND to invest/start a business with (that's 7$ US btw), or similarly qualified in other ways.

How can Canada be full? You people don't even use the top half of your country, do you? And what about the Yukon, who lives there? :D

Canada doesn't let people move up north for the same reason other nations have "cruel and unusual punishment" laws. =)

More seriously, http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/
is the "skilled worker" assessment website, and
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/index.html
is a self-assessment tool. Wow, the pass mark is down to a 67: last I checked it was a 75. Looks like you can get in easier than I thought. =) (they probably change the pass mark regularly to keep a regular stream of skilled workers immigrating)

apparently dancing naked on the rooftops is the only choice available for a supporter of the current administration.

there is a good chance we'll see this poll show up on a CBS broadcast.

No Baldwhining!
Damnit people! This is our country! If you really despise the man, don't run away - get out there and do something about it. If there's marital law, there'll be a ton of people in Michigan and Idaho who'd love another finger on the trigger. But that's more extreme than I suspect will be necessary. There are Republicans in office because Republican voters are motivated and get out there and work and organize and give money. We really do have the government we deserve if people don't do that (and I am guilty of it too.)

Turn on SNL and watch some more rather hilarious skits about Dubya. Honestly guys, who gives the best material to SNL about poking fun at the Presidency, Dubya or Kerry??? Exactly, do you want to go four laughless years because we have a stick in the mud for a POTUS???? :D

So that's why the Comedian's Guild has been the only major union to endorse Bush! ;)

I am determined to jack this thread, as it is not going anywhere. I'm taking the skills test to see how I do, and I'm confused. What is a one-year bachelor's degree? And why is there no option for a four year degree? Did they never expect Americans to come north or something? Explain this thing to me! Also, what is with the page that asks for you age and has as answers: 17, 18, 19, 20, 21-49, 50, 51, 52, 53, over 53. What the HELL?

72! And that's with no actual reason(read: job) to move to Canada, nor any ability to speak French!

what about the thank you note option?

Being younger than 21 or older than 49 'counts against you'. (or counts for you less). If you are 55 years old, who cares if you have a degree in CS... You will keel over in 2 years anyhow. ;-)

If you have a 4 year bachelor's degree, that's the same as a 3 year degree I believe. 3 year or 4 year, they don't care. The next step up is a PhD or 2 bachelor's degrees or a serious trade degree IIRC.

I assume that other locations (remember, this is world-wide) have different types of degrees, hence the 1 and 2 year degrees. The world is a big place.

*nod*. Like I said, I've seen the min score as high as 77, and 67 is as low as I've ever seen it. Looks like it fluxuates some. =)

Being educated and having a job offer in one of the "acceptable" areas (read: where canada doesn't have a surplus. If you have an offer to work on a fishing boat, that won't float), together with not being a total gimp in other ways, will get you through the test.

While Canada puts more of its population through university than the USA does, the majority of Canadians are still not University graduates. Canada likes importing more of them (it makes up for a tendency to say "eh").

Back to the original topic, I'd just like to point out some of the things the Bush administration has created:

1) The PATRIOT act. Yes, I realize that it was created out of 9/11 panic and that it is set to expire. So, basically, what the Bush administration is telling us is that it's perfectly ok to ignore our rights as long as it's for a limited time. Golly gee, well, in that case, why not start putting [insert group name here] into internment camps, but make the law only 4 years long, that way if they made a mistake they can correct it once the panic goes down. I realize that's an extreme, but I take any violation of my constitutional rights very seriously. The fact that the police can force a library to tell them what books I've taken out without my knowledge is just insane.

2) Holding non-citizens at Guantanimo bay for indefinate periods of time with no proof of wrong-doing, no lawyer, no public knowledge... the list goes on. How can we put up with this? Do humans not have inaliable rights anymore?

3) The war in Iraq was hurried and mis-directed. I'm certaintly not saying that it didn't do good, but I am saying that it shouldn't have happened... yet. I think we have much greater threats to worry about, such as dismantalling terrorist organizations and putting more pressure on countries such as North Korea who we know have nukes that can reach us in the US, and Saudi Arabia, who are well known for funding and harboring terrorists.

4) Scientific research funcing is at an all-time low under the Bush administration. Bush seems to believe that a worker at McDonalds does as much for society as a tenured professor researching for alternative energy methods. Also, he seems to believe that the environment is a plaything that we can do what we want with.

5) Bush is heavliy motivated by corperate concerns over the concerns of citizens. Maybe he forgets who put him into office in the first place. Oh, nevermind, that was the corperations, not the citizens.

The list goes on, but I'm sure it has all been argued before. Anyway, my point is this. Bush did these things in his first 4 years. These 4 years he has had to worry that all his decisions would come up when it came time for re-election. Can you imagine the sorts of things he would do if re-elected, knowing that there would be little reprocussion for his actions from the voters? Personally, I don't want to find out.

I was listenind to David Brooks and E J Dionne argue on NPR over the how the economy would play in the election this fall. Dionne said it would be the overriding factor (but, then, he's a communist :)), but Brooks said it would depend upon events as the election approaches, and "Imagine if the Madrid Bombings had been a week before that election."

Not quite ready for the tinfoil chapeau, so I won't go so far as to suggest that if it didn't happen Bush would have it done (though I do believe he is that morally bankrupt), but I don't need to think that. Al-Qaeda has endorsed Bush. If it looks like Kerry could win, they might make a few campaign stops that would really rock the vote.
(Probly not the right thread, but it's early and I haven't shaved my brain yet.)

check this out.

Try this very soon, before someone forces Google to fix the site
redirect:

1) Go to www.Google.com

2) Type in weapons of mass destruction (DON'T hit return)

3) Hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button, NOT the "Google search"

4) Read the "error message" carefully. The WHOLE page.

Someone at Google has a sense of humor.

"re-elected" would imply he wont the first election?

Well, since he did, it's a correct statement.

Wait a second, I just figured out how to REALLY piss off the Anti Bush people who believe he didn't win the first election. Let's accept their fictitious belief that he didn't win and wasn't really the President for this first term. That way we can elect him in this election and re-elect him in 2008. :lol:

Better than January, Gawd, it's awful from January till April.

Wow...that could be the most brilliant thing I have heard all day :D

actually, the site was created independantly of google a long time ago, and therefor google has no duristiction other than removing it from their web search, which they just won't.

Of course that is the most brilliant thing you've heard all day.....you hang around republicans.

Just teasing....couldn't resist.

I can't wait for President Bush to win another term. No one has done to more for American sovereignty and independence in a long time. Now if we could just get some strict constitutionalists in congress and the judiciary we could fix this country.

Yeah, we'd make the nra join a well regulated militia and give due process to the detainees at guantanamo. RWWAAAAWWWR! STRICT CONSTITUTIONALISM BABY!!!

He's done a lot for our independence if you don't factor in the economy at all. How independent are we if all of our shit is manufactured somewhere else? I also fail to see an increase in american sovereignty. Did we lack sovereignty before bush?

This is my honest opinion, and is in no way meant to troll or flame anyone... but if Bush gets re-elected, I will seriously weep for my country.

Don't attack me. That is all.

Don't worry Analog, I'll do enough praising for the both of us.

I love bush I would be happy if he wasent I would be unhappy!!!!!!!!!!!

If Bush is re-elected...

President Hillary Clinton, 2008.

God help us all.

And Walter Mondale will be her VP, and Mike Dukakis will be her campaign stratagist.

Never happen.

If he's re-elected...

Citizen.Rights--;

I'll expect to see more of the government in our personal lives trying to tell us how to live proper and be moral, because they practice what they preach and all...

Let's show planes crashing into the WTC over and over for weeks straight, but complain when a covered nipple is shown on TV, or fine Howard Stern because he said "let me smell your fingers". Is there a single politician who doesn't lie? :D

The main problem isn't actually the President, it's that people don't care what he does. People are sheep and blindly follow whatever leader is in office and trust what he has to say. For example, the Patriot Act. Ask half the people in this country what it is and I guarantee you they won't know. The ignorance has to stop, otherwise it's no longer a government for the people, by the people.

Well, I chose to move to Canada. I've been thinking about this for a few years anyway. I'm American and proud of it as well, but I just do not like the direction that my country is headed. I'd rather live in one that isn't hated by the rest of the world.

Yes, exactly.

I'll be very happy when Bush wins, and I'm drunkenly dancing naked with Kerry's daughter(s).

Hmmm, can't move to where I already live so I'd pick Weep for Humanity.
It would be a sad day/four years for the world if he get's elected.