02-27-2004, 02:06 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Stupid freakin' politicians... Kerry this time.
Okay, I'm a Democrat, but I cannot *believe* this bit from yesterday's debate:
"Kerry was pressed about his views on the death penalty, which he opposes except in cases of terrorism. " What the hell is wrong with our world? That's gotta be the most ridiculous pandering to the populace I've seen in ages. Somehow, in the world of John Kerry (or his political advisors), a political or religious zealot who takes part in a conspiracy to commit murder is more *evil* than a man who rapes, tortures, and murders an entire family? Nevermind that fact- but somehow the evidence against a terrorist is immediately rock solid, but not so against a pedophile who buries a child alive after raping them? I'm pro death penalty in cases of *obvious* guilt. Meaning, caught red-handed, in the act, confessed. Folks like the 17-year old who ran down the jogger with his SUV, then told the police he did it because he wanted to kill, then have sex with her. The way I see it, if there's NO doubt or question of guilt, an your crime is extremely heinous, you've redefined "cruel and unusual" by your acts alone. Sure, there's always the argument "So many people have been on death row who were innocent." I don't care about those people, that's a failure of the PROCESS, not of the punishment. Fix the process, and the punishment WILL fit the crime. Do you people really believe a terrorist deserves to die more than a rapist/murderer? A serial killer? A serial sniper? Are the votes Kerry's searching for REALLY out there, or is he just misinformed? |
02-27-2004, 02:19 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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The decent opinion of mankind opposes the death penalty and so would any politician worth voting for.
But, if it is a choice between one man who has said he would execute certain criminals, and a man who when governer of Texas was actually responsible for many executions...
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02-27-2004, 02:50 PM | #5 (permalink) |
Too Awesome for Aardvarks
Location: Angloland
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jeez, that has to beat even some of the infamous bushisms!
i have to agree with you about the total stupidity of it, i'm against the death sentance in all but the three dooseys (high treason, priacy on the open seas and setting fire to her majestys navel yards) and while that may be slightly askew, i do feel the need to bow down in front of kerry for his views... |
02-27-2004, 03:00 PM | #6 (permalink) | |
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02-27-2004, 03:05 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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You can also be executed by the captain of a ship while it is in international waters and that is excepted in British law, however, EU law forbids the death penalty, and on this issue it would take precedence - so in reality the death penalty is legally impossible in the UK. Then again, if a few police decide to kill Fred West, who is going to care or protect him? (for example)
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02-27-2004, 03:17 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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He's obviously taking this position to avoid being hurt by dumb attacks like "Kerry doesn't think Bin Laden should face the toughest sentence possible for attacking us on 9-11."
As much as I disagree with his position, it probably is a safe one to take since most voters won't hold it against him. |
02-27-2004, 03:25 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Location: Chicago
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I watched the debate and heard Kerry say this. I have to admit that it was a pretty transparent comment. It was pandering at its textbook best.
I am of the opinion that politicians are like frat boys at a bar, voters are like two really hot chicks that the frat boy wants to nail, and the politician is using his best pick up lines, hoping for a threesome.
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02-27-2004, 03:51 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Can't a liberal just run as a liberal, or do they have to B.S. and lie to sneak in under the radar?
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02-27-2004, 03:55 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
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02-27-2004, 03:58 PM | #15 (permalink) | |
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Location: Northeast Jesusland
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02-27-2004, 10:29 PM | #17 (permalink) | |
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"Kerry was pressed about his views on gun control, which he supports except in cases of self-defense. " "Kerry was pressed about his views on oil production in the ANWR, which he opposes except in cases of fuel shortage. " "Kerry was pressed about his views on education, which he opposes except in cases of stupidity. " I hope it was just a mis-quote.
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02-28-2004, 05:06 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
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If only I could make them transparent as well. Well, I can, I just don't have 9 hours to do it. Anyways, I would have thought people would catch on to how much a phoney this guy is by now.
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02-28-2004, 12:28 PM | #20 (permalink) | |
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02-28-2004, 01:31 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I'll vote for whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be, even if it's Kerry - only because I think we're better off with him than Bush. I wish I was excited about the election, but I'm more apathetic about it than anything. I don't want to be forced to pick one GOB over the other. I want someone that really cares about the issues; someone who really wants what is best - not only for America, but for the entire world. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever really have someone like this.
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02-28-2004, 05:51 PM | #22 (permalink) | |
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03-01-2004, 07:29 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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Location: Colorado
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If everyone that resigned themselves to voting for a mainstream candidate, justifying that a third party candidate had no chance,actually voted for a third party candidate, I believe that they might just collect a sizable minority of the vote. Purely speculation, of course, but it seems that line comes up so often a third party candidate might just have a chance.
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03-01-2004, 08:05 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Location: 38° 51' N 77° 2' W
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gag. this is what the system gives us now, and dean's self destruct and nader's fringe profile has shown us you can't work outside the system and get in. what amazes me is that we're all sick of this crap (which is the same from both parties) but we don't get rid of it. we always end up voting for the lesser of two evils.
god, i long for a candidate with some spine.
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