Dean Done
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040218_677.html
WASHINGTON Feb. 18 — Howard Dean will end his campaign for the presidential nomination and oversee a new effort to keep his issues alive and his supporters organized on behalf of Democratic causes, two party officials said Wednesday. Dean was to announce his plans at a news conference Wednesday afternoon, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. __________________________________________________ And then there were 2. Did anybody actually believe that he was going to stay in the race? I don't think we'll see him for a bit. At any rate I saw that he plans to keep his name on the ballot. LSD |
*Pours one out for his dead homie
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Assassinated by a press core who didn't think he could beat Bush. I'd almost feel for him, if he wasn't so wrong on so many issues.
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Dean's chances of being President are dead, but his campaign won the primary. Both Kerry and Edwards are running Dean 2.0 campaigns.
I'm sad to see him go, but I am excited for what he has done to the party and for what he is setting himself up to do for it in the next several years. Or, even the small possibility of being Edwards running mate and watching him trash Cheney in the Presidential debates. |
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Yeeearrrrh! But on the serious side, the last time a democrat 'trashed' a republican in a national debate was on West Wing. Why you guys have such confidence of it this time, I can't imagine. |
Actually the last time a democrat trashed a republican was yesterday when Ben Chandler beat Kerr in the Kentucky district 6 US congress special election race.
Results Chandler (D): 54.6 Kerr (R): 43.6 Chandler carried 14 of 16 counties. http://www.wkyt.com/Global/link.asp?...0&nav=4CAKKt3i Kerr ran on her support of Bush and his policies. She was soundly TRASHED Is this a signal of the nations mood? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in600622.shtml This is a VERY conservative region where a democrat has not held that seat in over 50 years. That's a long time for a congress-seat. Woo Hoo Chandler! |
A little more info to piggyback on Superbelt:
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Kerry and Edwards are NOT running Dean 2.0 campaigns. Kerry is running a pretty traditional campaign, and Edwards is an insurgent, though he isn't using the internet like Dean did. Dean's campaign was defined by its anti-war in Iraq message. Kerry and Edwards aren't pushing that point as hard as Dean did.
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I disagree. Campaigns have their differing points, but the main pack has been eerily similar in their positions. Especially the Iraq war. Dean forced that issue. Dean also forced the energy into the campaign and he forced a backbone back into the democrats making it ok and necessary for a candidate to start attacking Bush's policies and telling america how much we need a change. None of that would be on the table without Dean.
We would be stuck with a heartless spineless Lieberman type who runs on the campaign of... Um... Vote for me because I agree with everything Bush does. I honestly believe, without Howard having done what he did, neither Kerry nor Edwards would be in such a favorable position to win the Presidency. I think Dean changed them both. And did it for the better so they feel the ability to stand up for what they really believe in again and not cower. |
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About as much as he hated 1993 - 2000
There's gonna be a big mess to clean up when a couple thousand Limbaugh-ites heads explode when Bush loses at the end of the year. I will sorely miss Ustwo. I will take on an FDR avatar in memorial. [Remember our money bet Ustwo?] |
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Thats a shame, he looked like the best candiate to me
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I seem to remember Benson destroying Dan Quale in a vice presidential debate 12 years ago after Dan Quale compared himself to JFK.
Something like.... "I knew Jack Kennedy, I worked with Jack Kennedy, You sir are no Jack Kennedy" Right there and then, Quale was destroyed and forever pegged as a no-mind. |
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mystmarimatt crawls into a corner and starts to bawl |
I loved this editorial by Maura Keefe, hope the other Dean fans do as well:
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Thanks for that.
For both the acknowledgement to Dean and for backing up the meat of my earlier statement. It's especially good coming from someone with Kerry's name as their avatar. :) |
Dean injected dynamics into the race that might not have been there otherwise, but I'm not going to let anyone argue that Kerry and Edwards wouldn't take Bush head-on when his approval ratings have dropped into the 40s.
Dean didn't invent Bush bashing. Second, you'd be crazy to run a Dean 2.0 campaign. When Dean's campaign failed so spectacularly in Iowa and New Hampshire, he fired the architect of Dean 1.0, Joe Trippi, and hired a Washington insider, ex-Gore lobbyist to run his campaign. What did Dean do? He defined his campaign with firey rhetoric, opposition to the Iraq war, and the incorporation (or perhaps revitaliaztion) of a new (or perhaps old) constituency into the Democratic party. Whatever the case, Kerry hasn't adopted any of these three pillars. Sure, part of his success might be attributed to stepped up criticism of Bush, but it hardly defines his message. Kerry supported the threat of force in Iraq, but thought it was carried out too soon, and moreover he thinks that the execution has been poor. Dean opposed every aspect of it. Though Kerry benefitted from Dean voters deserting their candidate, his campaign hasn't become like Dean's campaign. Same goes for Edwards. He has a moralist populist message, a moderate position on the war, and a more traditional campaign. So to recap: Dean 1.0 didn't work. Therefore no one would run a Dean 2.0 campaign. All you need to do is look at what Kerry and Edwards are doing. Even if Dean's issues have to some extent been picked up by Edwards and Kerry, it's because voters want to hear about them. |
My husband immediately saw Kerry accelerating. Immediately I saw Dean sinking fast. We were both right.
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If you followed KY politics closely you would also know that Chandler won the House seat only after being destroyed by Ernie Fletcher for the govenors race. As for debates, there were not any in the house race, just a bunch of stupid comercials from the Kerr campaign. The seat will be up again in Nov. and State rep Tom Buford of Nicholasville will win. You heard it here first. LSD |
I am well aware of Fletcher winning.
But that was at a time when Bush was much more popular, it was towards the height of the Iraq War's popularity. I will be very interested in seeing how Chandler's campaign turns out. Incumbency is almost impossibly to beat in House races. I will also be following St. Senator Jeffords reelection campaign in Vermont closely. |
Its a amazing how volatile America's support for a potential president is. A few months back Dean was the major Democrat front runner, and then after one loss, the game is over. I guess his reaction to that one loss is what really lost him the election.
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