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jcookc6 · 02-10-2004, 07:38 PM

Here is an interesting article of Kerry tactics the was in the Daily Kos today.
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You know, I've said I wouldn't do much for Kerry in the General, but now it's official.
I just heard about the latest slimy maneuver, this time here in DC. Tonight was the Gertrude Stein Democratic Club Dinner. The group voted for their endorsement in the DC Caucus for this Saturday. While, yes, Dean supporters were the greatest collection (followed by Kusinich, as I understand), there was no clear majority, so the Club made no endorsement for the Caucus.

Note, no one got it, so there was no one getting any gain out of this.

Then, after the dinner was over, the big whopping 20 Kerry supporters snuck back in after everyone left. Then a crony on the Board used an obscure by-law to reconviene and they voted the endorsement to Kerry.

Yep, a tiny minority stole another vote (Florida anyone?). One that wasn't even going to any competitor, and thus hurting them. As a result, the GS is now in a shambles of internal recimination (I guess the Kerry people didn't get that memo about "ABB" and "We're all in this together"...as I expected, that's only to bludgeon Dean/Clark people with.). So much for party building.

We won the DC Primary fair and square. We would have won even if the others hadn't cut out on Terry Mac's orders. We did while doing crazy things like putting back up opponenets signs that fell down the lamp posts.

Meanwhile sleazy Kerry steals votes in backroom tricks. I'm sorry, but character counts, and anyone who condones this stuff has all the character of Dorian Grey's painting. And this isn't a "rumor", it happened hours ago. No one can claim it's just Rove stirring things up.

I am officially done. Good job, John! I wasn't going to make any more donations to DFA until I saw what happened. Instead, I just kicked off a chunk of change...money that won't be available for any Dem Congressional candiadtes. I will only be making donations to DFA, or any 527 that comes out of it. So everyone thank Johnny Boy for cutting off that stream of revenue.

Congrats on driving away someone who took the initiative to surround the White House with campaign signs. Maybe one of those trust fund kiddies on your paid staff can come up with ideas like that for you.

All you enablers may now feel free to pull out all the "disloyal", "politics ain't beanbag", and other rationalizations you like. It just is a testament to the content of your characters, not an indictment of anything else.
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Hope I did this right Mr. Moderator sir

nanofever · 02-10-2004, 07:57 PM

That is an odd-story, can we get a linky so we can read the article ourselves ?

Ustwo · 02-10-2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Congrats on driving away someone who took the initiative to surround the White House with campaign signs. Maybe one of those trust fund kiddies on your paid staff can come up with ideas like that for you.

Am I the only one to see this as amusing?

mml · 02-11-2004, 11:31 AM

HUH? Listen, if Kerry's campaign is doing some sleazy stuff, I want to know about it, but I can't make heads or tails of this post. Can we get some more/better info on this?

and regarding:

Quote:

Originally posted by jcookc6
congrats on driving away someone who took the initiative to surround the White House with campaign signs. Maybe one of those trust fund kiddies on your paid staff can come up with ideas like that for you.

While I am a Kerry volunteer, I have worked closely with a number of Kerry's paid staff (approximately 10-20 in the AZ primary) and not one of them was a "trust fund kiddie". They were hardworking, dedicated and excited to be part of the political process.

jcookc6 · 02-11-2004, 08:13 PM

here is the link for nanofever
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/10/43630/8746
I couldnt make something like that up.

jcookc6 · 02-11-2004, 08:16 PM

How about the stuff today about using "The Torch" to launder money to a political action commitee to sabatoge Dean in Iowa?

nanofever · 02-12-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by jcookc6
here is the link for nanofever
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/10/43630/8746
I couldnt make something like that up.

Maybe you misunderstood what I said when I requested a linkey...

I meant a crediable source you seem to have supplied a blog post which is entirely based on hearsay. "I just heard about the latest slimy maneuver, this time here in DC" that line clearly shows that the writer wasn't at the events in questions, giving him zero credibility as to what happened.

Zero credibility in my book.

02-10-2004, 07:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
jcookc6 Psycho Location: Venice, Florida	Interesting article about JF Kerry's tactics Here is an interesting article of Kerry tactics the was in the Daily Kos today. ---------------------- You know, I've said I wouldn't do much for Kerry in the General, but now it's official. I just heard about the latest slimy maneuver, this time here in DC. Tonight was the Gertrude Stein Democratic Club Dinner. The group voted for their endorsement in the DC Caucus for this Saturday. While, yes, Dean supporters were the greatest collection (followed by Kusinich, as I understand), there was no clear majority, so the Club made no endorsement for the Caucus. Note, no one got it, so there was no one getting any gain out of this. Then, after the dinner was over, the big whopping 20 Kerry supporters snuck back in after everyone left. Then a crony on the Board used an obscure by-law to reconviene and they voted the endorsement to Kerry. Yep, a tiny minority stole another vote (Florida anyone?). One that wasn't even going to any competitor, and thus hurting them. As a result, the GS is now in a shambles of internal recimination (I guess the Kerry people didn't get that memo about "ABB" and "We're all in this together"...as I expected, that's only to bludgeon Dean/Clark people with.). So much for party building. We won the DC Primary fair and square. We would have won even if the others hadn't cut out on Terry Mac's orders. We did while doing crazy things like putting back up opponenets signs that fell down the lamp posts. Meanwhile sleazy Kerry steals votes in backroom tricks. I'm sorry, but character counts, and anyone who condones this stuff has all the character of Dorian Grey's painting. And this isn't a "rumor", it happened hours ago. No one can claim it's just Rove stirring things up. I am officially done. Good job, John! I wasn't going to make any more donations to DFA until I saw what happened. Instead, I just kicked off a chunk of change...money that won't be available for any Dem Congressional candiadtes. I will only be making donations to DFA, or any 527 that comes out of it. So everyone thank Johnny Boy for cutting off that stream of revenue. Congrats on driving away someone who took the initiative to surround the White House with campaign signs. Maybe one of those trust fund kiddies on your paid staff can come up with ideas like that for you. All you enablers may now feel free to pull out all the "disloyal", "politics ain't beanbag", and other rationalizations you like. It just is a testament to the content of your characters, not an indictment of anything else. ------------------------- Hope I did this right Mr. Moderator sir

02-10-2004, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	That is an odd-story, can we get a linky so we can read the article ourselves ? __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."

02-11-2004, 08:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
jcookc6 Psycho Location: Venice, Florida	here is the link for nanofever http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/10/43630/8746 I couldnt make something like that up.

02-11-2004, 08:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
jcookc6 Psycho Location: Venice, Florida	How about the stuff today about using "The Torch" to launder money to a political action commitee to sabatoge Dean in Iowa?