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Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 10:57 AM

Write what you think should be the summary of Bush's term(s) in office when you turn to him in the history books. No debate, lets just see the essence that everyone can -professionally- boil Bush down to.
I'll start:

Quote:

"Ascended office through a Supreme Court mandate. In his single term, President Bush oversaw the tragedy of 9/11. Used public support built from that event to popularly champion what ultimately proved to be an eroneous case for war in Iraq, resulting in the deaths of **** american soldiers. Bush presided over the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression and is the only President since Herbert Hoover to see a net loss in jobs."

**** to yet be determined. We are at around 525 right now. And yes I think that is an important number that will follow him.

onetime2 · 02-10-2004, 11:52 AM

Despite a contentious election process in which the Supreme Court deemed it necessary to step in, George Bush came into office steadfast in his desire to lead. In response to the worst domestic attack since Pearl Harbor, he crafted the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military action against terrorist groups and their sponsoring states. He successfully commanded US and coalition efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq that eliminated the dictatorial regimes of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

In his first term in office he steered legislation for a national prescription plan through Congress which was the first step in a new direction for state sponsored healthcare for seniors.

theusername · 02-10-2004, 11:57 AM

Sorry bud, your thread your rules.

George W. Bush, a compassionate conservative Republican, inherited the greatest tragedy the United States has ever known in 9/11. He went into Afghanistan in order to fight both the Taliban and Al-Qaeida, which both were weakened and taken out of power. He then employed a preemptive policy in order to protect the United States and justifying a war in Iraq which enraged the international community. Despite this, the war in Iraq was won and Democracy still exists in Iraq today.

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 12:01 PM

Thanks. theusername

ARTelevision · 02-10-2004, 12:53 PM

onetime2 did a great job of putting my own thoughts into words. No need to re-write them. I would focus on the first paragraph. That's historical import:

"Despite a contentious election process in which the Supreme Court deemed it necessary to step in, George Bush came into office steadfast in his desire to lead. In response to the worst domestic attack since Pearl Harbor, he crafted the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military action against terrorist groups and their sponsoring states. He successfully commanded US and coalition efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq that eliminated the dictatorial regimes of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein."

Good words, onetime2
Thanks!

bt8624 · 02-10-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
Write what you think should be the summary of Bush's term(s) in office when you turn to him in the history books. No debate, lets just see the essence that everyone can -professionally- boil Bush down to.
I'll start:

**** to yet be determined. We are at around 525 right now. And yes I think that is an important number that will follow him.

You forgot the part of him inheriting the falling economy and depleted national defense from the former administration. oh yeah...and the thanks for standing up for this country and not just sending a few tomahawks as a warning.

One time pegged it right...nice job!

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 01:32 PM

I sure wish I had remembered to post this on an english speaking message board where people would be able to comprehend that the parameters of this thread were specifically limited to posting your own personal evaluation of the president and that it was to be totally devoid of any type of debate whatsoever.
I'll choose the correct forum the next time I post a thread. Sorry to the moderator of this, the Senegalese Nationals Forum

arch13 · 02-10-2004, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
I sure wish I had remembered to post this on an english speaking message board where people would be able to comprehend that the parameters of this thread were specifically limited to posting your own personal evaluation of the president and that it was to be totally devoid of any type of debate whatsoever.
I'll choose the correct forum the next time I post a thread. Sorry to the moderator of this, the Senegalese Nationals Forum

Bwwhahahahaha.
Good point Superbelt. It seems people are so intent to argue that no thread can avoid ending up in a debate that has little to do with the origional thread.

Quote:

After rising to power on one of the most contentious elections in US history, Mr. Bush was witnesss to a sudden and massive drop in the economy that his subsequent misteps only prolonged. Rememberd most for his economic incentive plan that took the country to the edge of banckruptcy with such ill advised costs as attempting to provide free medicine to the baby boomers and a 1 billion a week war, Poor economic choices in congress are now refered to as "Bushing the economy" in jest.

Ustwo · 02-10-2004, 02:55 PM

I think you would get less arguing if instead of some half-assed collection of BS you posted something a little more balanced.

You basicly post a troll and then try to take the high road on it.

Homey don't play that game.

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 03:08 PM

To me, that's not bs. That is honestly how I see his presidency. No bullshit, no troll. I see him that way. Those are the actions that stick out to me. Just like The blowjob, impeachment and whitewater. They are the things that stick with a president forever. This is what, if I stay true to myself is my Bush summary. I won't criticise what you write, I wasn't looking for you to criticise what I write. (I explicitly said not to. This is a neutral forum where I wanted people to speak their mind without fear of any reprisal.) This could have been a fun little exercise for everyone to just express their views on and give their predominant opinion on how Bush has executed his time in office.

onetime2 and ARTelevision had no problem engagin in the exercise, as did arch13. Right there we have 4 aggregates, and there are no illusions on where any of them stand on the president. Two overwhelmingly positive, and two utterly negative. That's not a bad thing to see when you take it all together. I think if we could have got 30 or so summaries, it would have been an interesting, tidy little thread to view.

Thanks for your time.

ChrisJericho · 02-10-2004, 04:37 PM

He choked on a pretzel.

bt8624 · 02-10-2004, 06:57 PM

yes but when onetime says pretty much the same damn thing we would have put, are we not supposed to post? I think it's funny that you were the first one to back up your post, yet we arn't allowed to add on to others. You gave a very biased one sided evaluation....so I evaluated your evaluation.....would you rather me quote onetimes whole post and say..."yeah what he said"

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 07:26 PM

What. are. you. talking. about?

Quote:

Originally posted by bt8624
One time pegged it right...nice job!

You could have cut it down to that and that would have been perfect. You could have just written whatever you want. Any part of his presidency you thought was relevant. F'in go for it.
I think, that you are just looking for conflict here. Not cool.
Also, Yes, I backed up a portion of my post. Something that is a bit fluid that I felt I wanted to expand on a little bit outside of my summary. I did not deny people the right to do that. As you said, with my first post I set the prescedent. Did I say you can't add to others? ARTelevision did just that and I was completely cool with it. But you attacked what I said. That is the start of a Debate.
Why can't you just stick to the goddamned topic? If you don't like it, fucking leave. I don't want your input if you continue to have diarreah of the mouth.

**[Mod's] Feel free to please delete all posts off topic including my own.
Thanks.

bt8624 · 02-10-2004, 08:07 PM

Who's the one with "diarreah of the mouth"? I never cussed a word, just replying to your comments. Look at you. Sounding just like Howard Dean flying off the handle...lol. As far as any debate, you opened it up by backing up a comment to your own post. It's a forum, if you can't handle criticism to your strongly pointed Bush bashing view, then maybe you ....should leave...you opened the thread up. I do apologize to the rest for helping start a debate tho'....my bad there.

I'll end any debate at this and move on, like you said.....Good job onetime, thats exactly how I would have stated it.

Arsenic7 · 02-10-2004, 08:27 PM

"President George W. Bush

Served: 2000-2008

Let's just forget about it."

Paq · 02-10-2004, 08:51 PM

BAHAHAHHHAHAHH
arsenic..that one is great..except i'd say, "2001--2005" best to forget these years.

as for seriousness, I really really don't think Al Quaeda or Taliban will be mentioned. The "Bush Doctrine" of pre-emptive war won't be hailed as a good thing as it really sets a dangerous precedent, so i'm not sure history will be kind to it.

I would also add in his record of dividing the country more than almost any president i can consider...seriously...

Sorry for the OT, i've been trying to think of an Apt summary of bush for the history books, but i'm afraid i'm a bit too jaded for that.

reconmike · 02-11-2004, 07:55 AM

G.W. Bush US President 2000-2008

After being handed a severly undersized military, economy that was in a downward spin, and a nation that was heavily overtaxed
he was forced to deal with a huge group of terrorist that should have been dealt with by the previous administration.
This terrorist group killed over 2000 civilians at a site that was attacked during a previous president's term and not delt with then.
Being a President concerned with america and not his own popularity, he first removed a terrorist's safe haven government,(taliban).
He also pre-emptivly struck Iraq to remove a brutal dictator and as a benifit other rogue nations began revealing weapon programs for fear of being attacked also.
Domesticly he gave the people who actually work for a living some of their money back.
He inproved the economy, factory production was at its highest level in over 20 years.
And as a small footnote he showed the left as the whinning bitter sissies the really are.

tecoyah · 02-11-2004, 09:43 AM

George W. Bush President of the United States of America.
2000 - 2004

Blatant warmonger.
Below average intellect.
Clearly beholding to Corp. interests.
Cannot properly use english language.
Attempted to remove seperation of church and state.
Created largest budget deficit in history of world.
Instilled mistrust of United States in the world.
Attempts to place religious doctrine in the U.S. constitution.
Makes the world safe for terrorism.

Creates drug bill for seniors.....

hold on....I'm thinking.

prb · 02-11-2004, 11:51 AM

Ushered the U.S. into the modern civilization first envisioned by George Orwell in his novel, "1984".

Mojo_PeiPei · 02-11-2004, 12:03 PM

Since this thread has already been hijacked, can Tecoyah please explain how Shrub is 1) a blatant warmonger 2) attempted to remove seperation of church and state 3) instilled mistrust of the US around the world and 4) how he tried to place religious doctrine in the constitution?

prb · 02-11-2004, 12:53 PM

Allow me, Tecoyah:

1) Had plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq before 9/11 and used the tragedy as his pretext
2) Faith- Based Initiative Programs
3) Lied about WMD and our reasons for invading Iraq
4) Proposes to add Anti-Gay Graffitti to the U.S. Constitution

Tecoyah may want to add more.

Tomservo · 02-11-2004, 03:02 PM

I'll play too!

1) Earlier today, the headline found all over the 'Net was Alan Greenspan talking positive about the economy. Now, it's Bush chanting about WMD's *again*. He can't even take the time to bask in the glow of a smooth economic report? I realize he got pasted for talking about Mars and (other, illegal) aliens, but every issue does NOT boil down to "I am a war President."

2) See State of the Union- "Faith Based Initiative". You did watch, no? He's been on the Christian warpath since 9/11, policy-wise, and has stated God wanted him to be President... far as I can tell, God doesn't get a vote. (Wait... does God live in Florida?)

3) See post "Osama! Osama!" Anyone who thinks the opinion of the US worldwide is as positive as it was four years ago is a bit confused, I'd say.

4) As listed by "prb". Pretty open-and-shut, that one.

tecoyah · 02-11-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prb
Allow me, Tecoyah:

1) Had plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq before 9/11 and used the tragedy as his pretext
2) Faith- Based Initiative Programs
3) Lied about WMD and our reasons for invading Iraq
4) Proposes to add Anti-Gay Graffitti to the U.S. Constitution

Tecoyah may want to add more.

I would say that pretty much touches on the points in question. thanx

tecoyah · 02-11-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Since this thread has already been hijacked, can Tecoyah please explain how Shrub is 1) a blatant warmonger 2) attempted to remove seperation of church and state 3) instilled mistrust of the US around the world and 4) how he tried to place religious doctrine in the constitution?

By the way....dont you wish to dispute the below average intellect, or the corporate ownership? Maybe we could list a few of his failed attempts at communication in english, and I should have more to add by the end of 2004.

onetime2 · 02-12-2004, 05:11 AM

Perhaps there should be more focus on English as a second language as evidenced by this thread, ehh Superbelt?

Lebell · 02-12-2004, 10:42 AM

Would be great if we could stay ON TOPIC!

02-10-2004, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	Despite a contentious election process in which the Supreme Court deemed it necessary to step in, George Bush came into office steadfast in his desire to lead. In response to the worst domestic attack since Pearl Harbor, he crafted the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military action against terrorist groups and their sponsoring states. He successfully commanded US and coalition efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq that eliminated the dictatorial regimes of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. In his first term in office he steered legislation for a national prescription plan through Congress which was the first step in a new direction for state sponsored healthcare for seniors. __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

02-10-2004, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
theusername Insane	Sorry bud, your thread your rules. George W. Bush, a compassionate conservative Republican, inherited the greatest tragedy the United States has ever known in 9/11. He went into Afghanistan in order to fight both the Taliban and Al-Qaeida, which both were weakened and taken out of power. He then employed a preemptive policy in order to protect the United States and justifying a war in Iraq which enraged the international community. Despite this, the war in Iraq was won and Democracy still exists in Iraq today. Last edited by theusername; 02-10-2004 at 04:56 PM..

02-10-2004, 12:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Re: Project: Write Bush's summary in the history books. Thanks. theusername Last edited by Superbelt; 02-10-2004 at 07:15 PM..

02-10-2004, 12:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	onetime2 did a great job of putting my own thoughts into words. No need to re-write them. I would focus on the first paragraph. That's historical import: "Despite a contentious election process in which the Supreme Court deemed it necessary to step in, George Bush came into office steadfast in his desire to lead. In response to the worst domestic attack since Pearl Harbor, he crafted the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military action against terrorist groups and their sponsoring states. He successfully commanded US and coalition efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq that eliminated the dictatorial regimes of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein." Good words, onetime2 Thanks! __________________ create evolution

02-10-2004, 02:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I think you would get less arguing if instead of some half-assed collection of BS you posted something a little more balanced. You basicly post a troll and then try to take the high road on it. Homey don't play that game. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

02-10-2004, 01:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	I sure wish I had remembered to post this on an english speaking message board where people would be able to comprehend that the parameters of this thread were specifically limited to posting your own personal evaluation of the president and that it was to be totally devoid of any type of debate whatsoever. I'll choose the correct forum the next time I post a thread. Sorry to the moderator of this, the Senegalese Nationals Forum

02-10-2004, 03:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	To me, that's not bs. That is honestly how I see his presidency. No bullshit, no troll. I see him that way. Those are the actions that stick out to me. Just like The blowjob, impeachment and whitewater. They are the things that stick with a president forever. This is what, if I stay true to myself is my Bush summary. I won't criticise what you write, I wasn't looking for you to criticise what I write. (I explicitly said not to. This is a neutral forum where I wanted people to speak their mind without fear of any reprisal.) This could have been a fun little exercise for everyone to just express their views on and give their predominant opinion on how Bush has executed his time in office. onetime2 and ARTelevision had no problem engagin in the exercise, as did arch13. Right there we have 4 aggregates, and there are no illusions on where any of them stand on the president. Two overwhelmingly positive, and two utterly negative. That's not a bad thing to see when you take it all together. I think if we could have got 30 or so summaries, it would have been an interesting, tidy little thread to view. Thanks for your time. Last edited by Superbelt; 02-10-2004 at 03:10 PM..

02-10-2004, 04:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChrisJericho eat more fruit Location: Seattle	He choked on a pretzel. __________________ "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows us that faith proves nothing." - Friedrich Nietzsche

02-10-2004, 06:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
bt8624 Upright	yes but when onetime says pretty much the same damn thing we would have put, are we not supposed to post? I think it's funny that you were the first one to back up your post, yet we arn't allowed to add on to others. You gave a very biased one sided evaluation....so I evaluated your evaluation.....would you rather me quote onetimes whole post and say..."yeah what he said"

02-10-2004, 08:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
bt8624 Upright	Who's the one with "diarreah of the mouth"? I never cussed a word, just replying to your comments. Look at you. Sounding just like Howard Dean flying off the handle...lol. As far as any debate, you opened it up by backing up a comment to your own post. It's a forum, if you can't handle criticism to your strongly pointed Bush bashing view, then maybe you ....should leave...you opened the thread up. I do apologize to the rest for helping start a debate tho'....my bad there. I'll end any debate at this and move on, like you said.....Good job onetime, thats exactly how I would have stated it.

02-10-2004, 08:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
Arsenic7 Insane Location: Corvallis, OR.	"President George W. Bush Served: 2000-2008 Let's just forget about it." __________________ This is no sig.

02-10-2004, 08:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
Paq Junkie Location: South Carolina	BAHAHAHHHAHAHH arsenic..that one is great..except i'd say, "2001--2005" best to forget these years. as for seriousness, I really really don't think Al Quaeda or Taliban will be mentioned. The "Bush Doctrine" of pre-emptive war won't be hailed as a good thing as it really sets a dangerous precedent, so i'm not sure history will be kind to it. I would also add in his record of dividing the country more than almost any president i can consider...seriously... Sorry for the OT, i've been trying to think of an Apt summary of bush for the history books, but i'm afraid i'm a bit too jaded for that. __________________ Live. Chris

02-11-2004, 07:55 AM	#17 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	G.W. Bush US President 2000-2008 After being handed a severly undersized military, economy that was in a downward spin, and a nation that was heavily overtaxed he was forced to deal with a huge group of terrorist that should have been dealt with by the previous administration. This terrorist group killed over 2000 civilians at a site that was attacked during a previous president's term and not delt with then. Being a President concerned with america and not his own popularity, he first removed a terrorist's safe haven government,(taliban). He also pre-emptivly struck Iraq to remove a brutal dictator and as a benifit other rogue nations began revealing weapon programs for fear of being attacked also. Domesticly he gave the people who actually work for a living some of their money back. He inproved the economy, factory production was at its highest level in over 20 years. And as a small footnote he showed the left as the whinning bitter sissies the really are. __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

02-11-2004, 09:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	George W. Bush President of the United States of America. 2000 - 2004 Blatant warmonger. Below average intellect. Clearly beholding to Corp. interests. Cannot properly use english language. Attempted to remove seperation of church and state. Created largest budget deficit in history of world. Instilled mistrust of United States in the world. Attempts to place religious doctrine in the U.S. constitution. Makes the world safe for terrorism. Creates drug bill for seniors..... hold on....I'm thinking. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

02-11-2004, 11:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
prb Psycho	Ushered the U.S. into the modern civilization first envisioned by George Orwell in his novel, "1984".

02-11-2004, 12:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Since this thread has already been hijacked, can Tecoyah please explain how Shrub is 1) a blatant warmonger 2) attempted to remove seperation of church and state 3) instilled mistrust of the US around the world and 4) how he tried to place religious doctrine in the constitution? __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

02-11-2004, 12:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
prb Psycho	Allow me, Tecoyah: 1) Had plans to invade Afghanistan and Iraq before 9/11 and used the tragedy as his pretext 2) Faith- Based Initiative Programs 3) Lied about WMD and our reasons for invading Iraq 4) Proposes to add Anti-Gay Graffitti to the U.S. Constitution Tecoyah may want to add more.

02-11-2004, 03:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
Tomservo Crazy Location: Los Angeles, CA	I'll play too! 1) Earlier today, the headline found all over the 'Net was Alan Greenspan talking positive about the economy. Now, it's Bush chanting about WMD's again. He can't even take the time to bask in the glow of a smooth economic report? I realize he got pasted for talking about Mars and (other, illegal) aliens, but every issue does NOT boil down to "I am a war President." 2) See State of the Union- "Faith Based Initiative". You did watch, no? He's been on the Christian warpath since 9/11, policy-wise, and has stated God wanted him to be President... far as I can tell, God doesn't get a vote. (Wait... does God live in Florida?) 3) See post "Osama! Osama!" Anyone who thinks the opinion of the US worldwide is as positive as it was four years ago is a bit confused, I'd say. 4) As listed by "prb". Pretty open-and-shut, that one.

02-12-2004, 05:11 AM	#25 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	Perhaps there should be more focus on English as a second language as evidenced by this thread, ehh Superbelt? __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

02-12-2004, 10:42 AM	#26 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Would be great if we could stay ON TOPIC! __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!