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mr sticky · 01-22-2004, 07:50 PM

This is a quick poll to help expound on a deeper question.

When you vote...are you truly voting for YOUR candidate?

OR...are you voting AGAINST the opposition?

I hear more and more people telling me what they don't like in each other's candidates and parties, without revealing what they like about theirs. So when you hit the polling places, are you voting FOR someone in particular? Or, are you just trying to keep the other side out.

I realize that in this information age we get far too much info on these candidates; but.... DAMN!...will there ever be another candidate that we can have some true confidence in? Not just more confidence than with the rival?

Cynically yours,

Sticky

Scipio · 01-22-2004, 08:58 PM

It really depends on how cynical you are I suppose. We tend not to think that somone can do good, even if they're our guy, but at the same time we believe that not only does the other guy have bad intentions, but also the capacity to actually cause bad things to happen.

Superbelt · 01-22-2004, 09:31 PM

I vote for my candidate because when I vote I go for the guy who has more positive things to offer this country.

Lebell · 01-22-2004, 10:39 PM

Hmmm

About 50/50 on the poll and that is how I have been voting lately too.

This presidential election will definitely be the lesser of two evils.

Astrocloud · 01-22-2004, 10:45 PM

I'm a registered independant and no candidate ever represents all my beliefs. However some beliefs trump others and certain candidates are downright evil.

I vote against.

asterjolly · 01-23-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell

This presidential election will definitely be the lesser of two evils.

ditto.

i dont like any candidates for president ive ever looked into sufficiently. so yeah, i vote against.

Bill O'Rights · 01-23-2004, 06:37 AM

Both actually.

Sometimes I'll vote for the candidate because I completely support him/her. Yet, just as often, I'll vote for a candidate, not so much out of support, but because I am vehemently against the opposition.

hlprmnky · 01-23-2004, 07:01 AM

Agreed. I voted 'yes' in this instance, but if there had been a "a little from column A, a little from column B" option, I would have picked that instead.

FoolThemAll · 01-23-2004, 07:11 AM

Depends on how big the difference in quality between the two candidates is.

I'll likely think Bush to be significantly better than the dem, and thus vote against the dem. But otherwise, I'd vote for the libertarian (or whatever third party candidate seems best).

edit: Actually, there may yet be the possibility that I'll consider Bush to be the best candidate, and not just the best major candidate. I don't like the Libertarian stance on the war in Iraq or on abortion.

Conclamo Ludus · 01-23-2004, 09:30 AM

I'd rather define myself with what I am for, than with what I am against.

filtherton · 01-23-2004, 09:40 AM

It depends on the election. In local elections i always vote for my candidate, while in national elections i am generally more inclined to vote against the other candidate.
Just like the framers of the constitution intended.

Evil Milkman · 01-23-2004, 11:17 AM

I will be a first time voter this year, and I've got to say that I will probably be voting for my candidate (whoever it is) because of both reasons. Now, I do realize that seems like a cop out answer, but it's mostly the truth. I do have some issues with some of the Democrate candidates at this point, but would definitely vote for Clark/Dean/Edwards/Kerry (probably in that order) before Bush any day. I see very little good Bush is doing for this country, and any new face in the White House would be so much better for the nation at this point.

So yes, I'd be voting for both possible motives you have stated.

mml · 01-23-2004, 01:17 PM

Generally speaking, I vote for MY candidate. On occation, I have voted against someone rather that for someone, but it is rare. I recently voted for someone who I wanted out of office, because the individual who was of my party was a complete joke, so I guess I won't vote for someone just because I dislike their opponent. Whomever I vote for needs to be qualified, just in case they do win.

Bobaphat · 01-23-2004, 01:31 PM

Good question. I would like to think that I tend to vote for my candidate, but I admit there are times (present elections included) my vote will be a vote against.

Sparhawk · 01-23-2004, 01:54 PM

I always vote for my candidate in primaries. As for the general election...

NoseyJoe · 01-28-2004, 08:25 PM

i always vote for my candidate, unless its a 3rd party, because thats probably just a wasted vote

hunnychile · 01-29-2004, 06:25 PM

This time I say remember ABBA....

Anyone But Bush Again!

Cuz yes, It will change to entire future of the USA and the World.

Mondak · 01-29-2004, 07:19 PM

It has been a while since I felt any connection to a candidate. Most of the time, it is the lesser of two evils that I have to try and cope with, so it is unfortunitly the second.

I wish I had a candidate to believe in again. I miss Ronnie....

prb · 01-30-2004, 09:06 AM

I would like to be able to vote FOR someone someday. As it stands, every time I vote, I vote against somebody.

Liquor Dealer · 01-30-2004, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by prb
I would like to be able to vote FOR someone someday. As it stands, every time I vote, I vote against somebody.

This seems to be the way it works for me too! It's a shame you really have to look for the lesser of two evils instead of voting for who you think would do the best job.

View Poll Results: For yours or Against theirs
I generally vote for my candidate	27	64.29%
I generally vote against the opposing candidate	15	35.71%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

01-22-2004, 07:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
mr sticky Psycho Location: NC	Honesty time! This is a quick poll to help expound on a deeper question. When you vote...are you truly voting for YOUR candidate? OR...are you voting AGAINST the opposition? I hear more and more people telling me what they don't like in each other's candidates and parties, without revealing what they like about theirs. So when you hit the polling places, are you voting FOR someone in particular? Or, are you just trying to keep the other side out. I realize that in this information age we get far too much info on these candidates; but.... DAMN!...will there ever be another candidate that we can have some true confidence in? Not just more confidence than with the rival? Cynically yours, Sticky __________________ The sad thing is... as you get older you come to realize that you don't so much pilot your life, as you just try to hold on, in a screaming, defiant ball of white-knuckle anxious fury

01-22-2004, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scipio Mencken Location: College	It really depends on how cynical you are I suppose. We tend not to think that somone can do good, even if they're our guy, but at the same time we believe that not only does the other guy have bad intentions, but also the capacity to actually cause bad things to happen. __________________ "Erections lasting more than 4 hours, though rare, require immediate medical attention."

01-22-2004, 10:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Hmmm About 50/50 on the poll and that is how I have been voting lately too. This presidential election will definitely be the lesser of two evils. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-23-2004, 06:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	Both actually. Sometimes I'll vote for the candidate because I completely support him/her. Yet, just as often, I'll vote for a candidate, not so much out of support, but because I am vehemently against the opposition. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

01-22-2004, 09:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	I vote for my candidate because when I vote I go for the guy who has more positive things to offer this country.

01-22-2004, 10:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	I'm a registered independant and no candidate ever represents all my beliefs. However some beliefs trump others and certain candidates are downright evil. I vote against.

01-23-2004, 07:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
hlprmnky Upright Location: MN, USA	Agreed. I voted 'yes' in this instance, but if there had been a "a little from column A, a little from column B" option, I would have picked that instead.

01-23-2004, 07:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
FoolThemAll Walking is Still Honest Location: Seattle, WA	Depends on how big the difference in quality between the two candidates is. I'll likely think Bush to be significantly better than the dem, and thus vote against the dem. But otherwise, I'd vote for the libertarian (or whatever third party candidate seems best). edit: Actually, there may yet be the possibility that I'll consider Bush to be the best candidate, and not just the best major candidate. I don't like the Libertarian stance on the war in Iraq or on abortion. __________________ I wonder if we're stuck in Rome.

01-23-2004, 09:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	I'd rather define myself with what I am for, than with what I am against. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

01-23-2004, 09:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	It depends on the election. In local elections i always vote for my candidate, while in national elections i am generally more inclined to vote against the other candidate. Just like the framers of the constitution intended.

01-23-2004, 11:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
Evil Milkman Addict Location: Illinois	I will be a first time voter this year, and I've got to say that I will probably be voting for my candidate (whoever it is) because of both reasons. Now, I do realize that seems like a cop out answer, but it's mostly the truth. I do have some issues with some of the Democrate candidates at this point, but would definitely vote for Clark/Dean/Edwards/Kerry (probably in that order) before Bush any day. I see very little good Bush is doing for this country, and any new face in the White House would be so much better for the nation at this point. So yes, I'd be voting for both possible motives you have stated.

01-23-2004, 01:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
mml Adrift Location: Wandering in the Desert of Life	Generally speaking, I vote for MY candidate. On occation, I have voted against someone rather that for someone, but it is rare. I recently voted for someone who I wanted out of office, because the individual who was of my party was a complete joke, so I guess I won't vote for someone just because I dislike their opponent. Whomever I vote for needs to be qualified, just in case they do win. __________________ Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -Douglas Adams

01-23-2004, 01:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bobaphat whoopity doo Location: Seattle	Good question. I would like to think that I tend to vote for my candidate, but I admit there are times (present elections included) my vote will be a vote against. __________________ --size matters not-- yoda

01-23-2004, 01:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	I always vote for my candidate in primaries. As for the general election... __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

01-28-2004, 08:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
NoseyJoe Tilted Location: Michigan	i always vote for my candidate, unless its a 3rd party, because thats probably just a wasted vote __________________ "the only difference between suicide and martyrdom is press coverage." -- Chuck Palahniuk

01-29-2004, 06:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	This time I say remember ABBA.... Anyone But Bush Again! Cuz yes, It will change to entire future of the USA and the World. __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

01-29-2004, 07:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	It has been a while since I felt any connection to a candidate. Most of the time, it is the lesser of two evils that I have to try and cope with, so it is unfortunitly the second. I wish I had a candidate to believe in again. I miss Ronnie.... __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

01-30-2004, 09:06 AM	#19 (permalink)
prb Psycho	I would like to be able to vote FOR someone someday. As it stands, every time I vote, I vote against somebody.