Video of Bush at the "Nothing Fancy Diner" - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Nomad · 01-23-2004, 03:31 PM

I recorded this from the Countdown With Keith Olbermann Show.

Video Is 12MB

Got Ribs

sixate · 01-23-2004, 04:17 PM

Why are they making an issue out of him not tipping on a take out order. Does anyone leave a tip when they hit the drive through at Burger King? I didn't think so...

I can't believe I wasted e few minutes watching that.

nanofever · 01-23-2004, 04:25 PM

I swear unless he has a speech written infront of him or Cheny/Rummy by his side he shouldn't be allowed to talk.

Nad Adam · 01-23-2004, 04:35 PM

Yeah, that's what americans need: More food!

floydthebarber · 01-23-2004, 04:35 PM

Holy shit the guy comes off as an idiot. Not so much by not leaving a tip, but just listen to the guy, he's tweaked.

Nad Adam · 01-23-2004, 05:01 PM

+ this man would be ripped apart in european politics. Man your press is a bunch of pussies.

Nomad · 01-23-2004, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Nad Adam
+ this man would be ripped apart in european politics. Man your press is a bunch of pussies.

We call them Media Whores

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filtherton · 01-23-2004, 06:45 PM

It is about as important as dean's holla. That is to say not at all.

Macheath · 01-23-2004, 08:22 PM

He seems to think the common people are going to be eternally grateful for his forty bucks, but watch their body language. The woman retreats to the back of the restaurant and crosses her arms (defensive gesture) and the guy get's on the phone and seems annoyed that Bush is interrupting him (ie, using him as a prop to avoid questions). I guess they just don't like being patronised and lorded over by a moneyed ivy leaguer on a road trip any more than the reporters do.

Interesting from a body language/media management perspective.

Evil Milkman · 01-23-2004, 08:53 PM

At least he could've said, "I don't wish to answer any questions at this time, I'm hungry and want some privacy." That's a far better way of handling the situation.

Can't blame him for acting like a complete and total weirdo, we all knew this beforehand.

santafe5000 · 01-23-2004, 08:54 PM

Hate to disagree with you guys, but i've eaten at this restaurant many times on trips thru Roswell. Very good place to eat. They do a lot of take out and i can't recall anyone laeving a tip with take out. I for one don't. A tip is for service by a waitress/server on eat in service. Do you tip the check out person at the grocery store or the clerk at the convience store. News people always seem to want to try to put a negative spin on a story to get more people to watch. All i saw where a bunch of reporters who crowded into a restaurant just to ask questions and took up space from the real patrons. The lady who took the order wasn't crossing her arms in disgust of the president, more likely she was disgusted at the press.

mbchills · 01-23-2004, 10:00 PM

pretty stupid.. waste of time

seretogis · 01-23-2004, 10:24 PM

That was msnbc's "top story?" How sad.

splck · 01-24-2004, 08:51 AM

LOL...I can't believe that guy is the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth. That's some mighty fine economic info he told everyone, I feel better for knowing it.
I agree that the press there were a bunch of pussies.
Does he ever answer fielded questions, or do they have to be pre-aproved?

Zamunda · 01-24-2004, 12:46 PM

spick, if you notice that Bush has very few "live" press conferences I'd say the questions are pre-approved... I remember he had one on Iraq before we went in, and it was a disaster. Reporters were asking good questions about evidence and rebuilding, and he just kept spewing back the same line about how Saddam was a bad guy, not answering the questions at all. And if you want to talk about national security? how about closing down all the pretzel factories since they seem to pose the biggest threat to his personal safety.

Paq · 01-24-2004, 01:22 PM

Actually, you are supposed to tip 10% for takeout if it's from a nice place. OutBack and Chilis use their servers for takeout only people on busy nights and they are still paid $2.13 per hour plus tips. Most servers don't mind bc they still do fairly well bc most people tip and you have higher sales

I didn't watch the vid, so i don't know how that pertains.

Evil Milkman · 01-25-2004, 10:15 AM

I think we're all bypassing the real issue here.

Bush is the President. He is a multi-millionaire. He refused to stop badgering the press (however annoying) about spending money on the restaurant. No tip.

How rude and inconsiderate is this? And hypocritical? In my opinion; very!

Starfish · 01-25-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
[B] Why are they making an issue out of him not tipping on a take out order. Does anyone leave a tip when they hit the drive through at Burger King? I didn't think so...

well when you're tring to make a point to help out an ecnomy and you are at a sit down restaraunt the proper thing to so is leave a tip...The reason why it was such a big issue was because he was tring to make a point about helping the ecmony and he didn't. The people who work there are doing more that a local BK...

sixate · 01-25-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Starfish
well when you're tring to make a point to help out an ecnomy and you are at a sit down restaraunt the proper thing to so is leave a tip...The reason why it was such a big issue was because he was tring to make a point about helping the ecmony and he didn't. The people who work there are doing more that a local BK...

The only way what you said could possibly be valid is if you leave a tip every single time you pick up a take out order. I don't. I never have and never will. I don't know anyone who does. He did order $42 of wings to go. If he sat there and ate them and didn't tip I could see people saying something, but he didn't. So people need to be quiet because they would have done the exact same thing.

filtherton · 01-25-2004, 05:49 PM

Getting angry about this makes about as much sense as getting angry about the words of actors and actresses. i.e. not much sense at all.

dragon2fire · 01-25-2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
Why are they making an issue out of him not tipping on a take out order. Does anyone leave a tip when they hit the drive through at Burger King? I didn't think so...

I can't believe I wasted e few minutes watching that.

yea my thoughts exactaly

i am glad to get a reminder of why i dont watch msnbc though

o and i am a democrat

but god i hate stupidity

KWSN · 01-25-2004, 09:44 PM

*sigh* can't they think of something better to pick on bush for? seriously, this is downright idiotic. You don't leave tips for takeout, even if you are the president. it just doesn't make sense.

Though i must admit the one time he did answer a question he came off sounding dumb...

"Will this election come down to homeland security?"
"I'm here to secure the homeland and that's what I'll do. Ribs?"

Astrocloud · 01-26-2004, 09:03 AM

This video makes him look cute. He gave the restaurant national advertising which is quite a tip.

yellowgowild · 01-27-2004, 12:08 AM

Of course the press seems like a bunch of pussies, they only allow the real timid ones to get near him.
The real press would tear him to shreds.

01-23-2004, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nomad Heathen Location: California	Video of Bush at the "Nothing Fancy Diner" I recorded this from the Countdown With Keith Olbermann Show. Video Is 12MB Got Ribs

01-23-2004, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	I swear unless he has a speech written infront of him or Cheny/Rummy by his side he shouldn't be allowed to talk. __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."

01-23-2004, 04:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nad Adam Psycho Location: Sweden	Yeah, that's what americans need: More food! __________________ Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalms 137:9

01-23-2004, 04:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
floydthebarber Insane Location: ?	Holy shit the guy comes off as an idiot. Not so much by not leaving a tip, but just listen to the guy, he's tweaked. __________________ wish you were here

01-23-2004, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nad Adam Psycho Location: Sweden	+ this man would be ripped apart in european politics. Man your press is a bunch of pussies. __________________ Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalms 137:9

01-23-2004, 04:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	Why are they making an issue out of him not tipping on a take out order. Does anyone leave a tip when they hit the drive through at Burger King? I didn't think so... I can't believe I wasted e few minutes watching that.

01-23-2004, 06:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	It is about as important as dean's holla. That is to say not at all.

01-23-2004, 08:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	He seems to think the common people are going to be eternally grateful for his forty bucks, but watch their body language. The woman retreats to the back of the restaurant and crosses her arms (defensive gesture) and the guy get's on the phone and seems annoyed that Bush is interrupting him (ie, using him as a prop to avoid questions). I guess they just don't like being patronised and lorded over by a moneyed ivy leaguer on a road trip any more than the reporters do. Interesting from a body language/media management perspective.

01-23-2004, 08:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Evil Milkman Addict Location: Illinois	At least he could've said, "I don't wish to answer any questions at this time, I'm hungry and want some privacy." That's a far better way of handling the situation. Can't blame him for acting like a complete and total weirdo, we all knew this beforehand.

01-23-2004, 08:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
santafe5000 EVIL! Location: Southwest of nowhere	Hate to disagree with you guys, but i've eaten at this restaurant many times on trips thru Roswell. Very good place to eat. They do a lot of take out and i can't recall anyone laeving a tip with take out. I for one don't. A tip is for service by a waitress/server on eat in service. Do you tip the check out person at the grocery store or the clerk at the convience store. News people always seem to want to try to put a negative spin on a story to get more people to watch. All i saw where a bunch of reporters who crowded into a restaurant just to ask questions and took up space from the real patrons. The lady who took the order wasn't crossing her arms in disgust of the president, more likely she was disgusted at the press. __________________ When all else fails, QUIT.

01-23-2004, 10:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
mbchills Insane Location: NJ	pretty stupid.. waste of time __________________ rawr.

01-23-2004, 10:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	That was msnbc's "top story?" How sad. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

01-24-2004, 08:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	LOL...I can't believe that guy is the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth. That's some mighty fine economic info he told everyone, I feel better for knowing it. I agree that the press there were a bunch of pussies. Does he ever answer fielded questions, or do they have to be pre-aproved? __________________ nice line eh?

01-24-2004, 12:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zamunda Tilted	spick, if you notice that Bush has very few "live" press conferences I'd say the questions are pre-approved... I remember he had one on Iraq before we went in, and it was a disaster. Reporters were asking good questions about evidence and rebuilding, and he just kept spewing back the same line about how Saddam was a bad guy, not answering the questions at all. And if you want to talk about national security? how about closing down all the pretzel factories since they seem to pose the biggest threat to his personal safety.

01-24-2004, 01:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
Paq Junkie Location: South Carolina	Actually, you are supposed to tip 10% for takeout if it's from a nice place. OutBack and Chilis use their servers for takeout only people on busy nights and they are still paid $2.13 per hour plus tips. Most servers don't mind bc they still do fairly well bc most people tip and you have higher sales I didn't watch the vid, so i don't know how that pertains. __________________ Live. Chris

01-25-2004, 10:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
Evil Milkman Addict Location: Illinois	I think we're all bypassing the real issue here. Bush is the President. He is a multi-millionaire. He refused to stop badgering the press (however annoying) about spending money on the restaurant. No tip. How rude and inconsiderate is this? And hypocritical? In my opinion; very!

01-25-2004, 05:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Getting angry about this makes about as much sense as getting angry about the words of actors and actresses. i.e. not much sense at all.

01-25-2004, 09:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
KWSN green	sigh can't they think of something better to pick on bush for? seriously, this is downright idiotic. You don't leave tips for takeout, even if you are the president. it just doesn't make sense. Though i must admit the one time he did answer a question he came off sounding dumb... "Will this election come down to homeland security?" "I'm here to secure the homeland and that's what I'll do. Ribs?" __________________ Your arms are broken!

01-26-2004, 09:03 AM	#23 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	This video makes him look cute. He gave the restaurant national advertising which is quite a tip.

01-27-2004, 12:08 AM	#24 (permalink)
yellowgowild Psycho Location: Tampa	Of course the press seems like a bunch of pussies, they only allow the real timid ones to get near him. The real press would tear him to shreds.