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arch13 · 02-08-2004, 10:06 PM

I saw this and somehow I knew it belonged here

Lebell · 02-08-2004, 10:29 PM

They forgot two:

"We will not stop until every

l terrorist is brought to justice

and we have achieved

victory.

(There is irony here. Can you spot it?)

Kadath · 02-09-2004, 07:09 AM

Taking a stab, I'd say that you used old, defunct oil companies to indicate that this is an old, useless joke?

Ustwo · 02-09-2004, 07:39 AM

Don't worry Lebell, at least I got it.

silent_jay · 02-09-2004, 07:53 AM

very funny that made my day

Lebell · 02-09-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadath
Taking a stab, I'd say that you used old, defunct oil companies to indicate that this is an old, useless joke?

Nope.

Nice try, tho.

Kadath · 02-10-2004, 12:39 PM

That's sweet, Lebell, but I want to be snide like Ustwo. Let me in on the joke?

Ustwo · 02-10-2004, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadath
Let me in on the joke?

I don't think you will find it funny

bt8624 · 02-10-2004, 01:09 PM

No worries Kadath, when the repubs were having a field day with the draft dodging and Monica scandel....the Dems were crying in thier milk....it's just easier to throw stones at the man on top of the hill. you'll be seeing those jokes for the next 4 years....all you can do is say "there, there" pat them on the back and hand them a kleenex.

Ustwo · 02-10-2004, 01:23 PM

I can't be the only one that gets the joke besides Lebell.

I find that both typical and scary.

Lebell · 02-10-2004, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadath
That's sweet, Lebell, but I want to be snide like Ustwo. Let me in on the joke?

The irony is that Fina-Total, a French oil company, had billions in deals inked with Saddam Hussein, which is why I guess the person who put that together didn't include them: they didn't fit into his/her political satire.

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 03:13 PM

I dunno about that Lebell, you make a good point with Fina-Total.

But I think the author if the original there used well known oil companies that operate within the US. I didn't know that Fina Total was an oil company and I bet that 99% of americans plus the document author don't know either. I doubt he excluded them on purpose.

Lebell · 02-10-2004, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
I dunno about that Lebell, you make a good point with Fina-Total.

But I think the author if the original there used well known oil companies that operate within the US. I didn't know that Fina Total was an oil company and I bet that 99% of americans plus the document author don't know either. I doubt he excluded them on purpose.

You don't have Total gas stations back east? We have them all over the place around here (Colorado).

pocon1 · 02-10-2004, 03:24 PM

I live in Maryland, and I have never heard of Total Gas. Last week I drove to Canada, Two years ago I drove to Key West. Never saw Fina or Total.

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 03:25 PM

Never.

We have:
Exxon/Mobile
Texaco
Gulf
Hess
Sunoco
Shell
We used to have Amoco, no more though.

I have seen BP when I drive out of my general area. I have heard of Arco, never seen one though.

But I have never seen a Fina-Total or just plain (Total?). Never. The first time I ever heard that name was in this thread.

ubertuber · 02-10-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell
You don't have Total gas stations back east? We have them all over the place around here (Colorado).

Never seen one in my life. BTW, I thought both jokes were funny!

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 03:41 PM

And....
I live in Central Pa (York) My range extends from Wild Wood, New Jersey to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
and from Montreal, Quebec to the North/South Carolina border.
Those are the places that I have personally driven through and been.

Never seen a Fina-Total.

Lebell · 02-10-2004, 04:03 PM

Well, geez,

I'll take a picture if you need one.

There's one about 3 or 4 miles from the house

KellyC · 02-10-2004, 04:04 PM

My teacher have this in her classroom. It is so damn hilarious!!

Ustwo · 02-10-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KellyC
My teacher have this in her classroom. It is so damn hilarious!!

And people wonder why the NEA has a bad reputation.

Superbelt · 02-10-2004, 06:08 PM

Teachers are allowed to think what they want and are allowed to teach their values.
If there is any kind of a lack of conservative voice in education it is the conservatives fault for by and large not being interested in eductating our youth.

Lebell · 02-10-2004, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
Teachers are allowed to think what they want and are allowed to teach their values.
If there is any kind of a lack of conservative voice in education it is the conservatives fault for by and large not being interested in eductating our youth.

AHEM!

Excuse me, but teachers are NOT necessarily allowed to teach "thier values".

There are guidelines of teaching ethics, and if pushing your own politics isn't one of them in his school district, it certainly should be.

I know my own instructors are VERY careful about distinguishing their personal views and what they can teach, and I appreciate that.

I want a teacher who presents information so I can make up my own mind, not one who is interested in making me part of their personal "constituency".

Superbelt · 02-11-2004, 04:09 AM

Not to turn this into an education thread, but teachers are permitted to share their views.

Lebell · 02-11-2004, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
Not to turn this into an education thread, but teachers are permitted to share their views.

I agree, not to turn this into an education thread, but you didn't say "share their views". You said, "teach their values".

Superbelt · 02-11-2004, 10:05 AM

Well I see a difference between teach your values and indoctrination.

Teaching values is sharing personal views. I think teachers are much more effective when they teach from personal experience as long as they don't exclude any other side from being discussed.
Bludgeoning kids day after day with a specific point of view is indoctrination and I think there are few to none of that type of teacher in this country.

That's imo, maybe you didn't like my choice of words, but that's what I meant.

02-08-2004, 10:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-08-2004, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	They forgot two: "We will not stop until every l terrorist is brought to justice and we have achieved victory. (There is irony here. Can you spot it?) __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate! Last edited by Lebell; 02-08-2004 at 10:40 PM..

02-09-2004, 07:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	Taking a stab, I'd say that you used old, defunct oil companies to indicate that this is an old, useless joke? __________________ it's quiet in here

02-09-2004, 07:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Don't worry Lebell, at least I got it. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

02-09-2004, 07:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	very funny that made my day __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

02-10-2004, 12:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	That's sweet, Lebell, but I want to be snide like Ustwo. Let me in on the joke? __________________ it's quiet in here

02-10-2004, 01:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
bt8624 Upright	No worries Kadath, when the repubs were having a field day with the draft dodging and Monica scandel....the Dems were crying in thier milk....it's just easier to throw stones at the man on top of the hill. you'll be seeing those jokes for the next 4 years....all you can do is say "there, there" pat them on the back and hand them a kleenex.

02-10-2004, 01:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I can't be the only one that gets the joke besides Lebell. I find that both typical and scary. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

02-10-2004, 03:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	I dunno about that Lebell, you make a good point with Fina-Total. But I think the author if the original there used well known oil companies that operate within the US. I didn't know that Fina Total was an oil company and I bet that 99% of americans plus the document author don't know either. I doubt he excluded them on purpose.

02-10-2004, 03:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	I live in Maryland, and I have never heard of Total Gas. Last week I drove to Canada, Two years ago I drove to Key West. Never saw Fina or Total.

02-10-2004, 03:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Never. We have: Exxon/Mobile Texaco Gulf Hess Sunoco Shell We used to have Amoco, no more though. I have seen BP when I drive out of my general area. I have heard of Arco, never seen one though. But I have never seen a Fina-Total or just plain (Total?). Never. The first time I ever heard that name was in this thread.

02-10-2004, 03:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	And.... I live in Central Pa (York) My range extends from Wild Wood, New Jersey to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and from Montreal, Quebec to the North/South Carolina border. Those are the places that I have personally driven through and been. Never seen a Fina-Total.

02-10-2004, 04:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Well, geez, I'll take a picture if you need one. There's one about 3 or 4 miles from the house __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

02-10-2004, 04:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
KellyC Comment or else!! Location: Home sweet home	My teacher have this in her classroom. It is so damn hilarious!! __________________ Him: Ok, I have to ask, what do you believe? Me: Shit happens.

02-10-2004, 06:08 PM	#21 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Teachers are allowed to think what they want and are allowed to teach their values. If there is any kind of a lack of conservative voice in education it is the conservatives fault for by and large not being interested in eductating our youth.

02-11-2004, 04:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Not to turn this into an education thread, but teachers are permitted to share their views.

02-11-2004, 10:05 AM	#25 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Well I see a difference between teach your values and indoctrination. Teaching values is sharing personal views. I think teachers are much more effective when they teach from personal experience as long as they don't exclude any other side from being discussed. Bludgeoning kids day after day with a specific point of view is indoctrination and I think there are few to none of that type of teacher in this country. That's imo, maybe you didn't like my choice of words, but that's what I meant. Last edited by Superbelt; 02-11-2004 at 10:08 AM..