Castro cracks down on the internet - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Endymon32 · 01-11-2004, 05:08 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3386413.stm

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Only those authorised to use the internet from home like civil servants, party officials and doctors will be able to do so on a regular phone line.

The bill says the state telephone company Etecsa will use technical means to detect and impede access.

Correspondents say the law will affect thousands of Cubans who access the worldwide web from their homes.

It took effect on Saturday, according to a letter sent by Etecsa internet service E-net to customers.

The government says the move is necessary to "regulate dial-up access to internet navigation services, adopting measures that help protect against the taking of passwords, malicious acts, and the fraudulent and unauthorised use of this service".

Black market

The Cuban Government passed a decree last year that the internet could only be accessed using a more expensive telephone service charged in US dollars, not generally available to ordinary Cubans.

E-net customers who do not have the dollar phone service can still access the internet legally by buying special cards at Etecsa offices.

Some Cubans also can use international email and a government-controlled intranet at work and in schools.

But until now many people have been using computers and internet accounts borrowed or bought on the black market, and it is they who will be affected by the new law.

Blackout

The previous system allowing access to the web granted many Cubans a rare opportunity to observe western media and news reports.

Global television news channels are only available at luxury hotels which are off limits to Cuban tourists.

It is feared that as well as "blacking out" this window on the world, the new move to further limit web access could also damage Cuba's main source of foreign revenue: the tourism industry.

Thousands of ordinary Cubans have relied on the internet to advertise private accommodation for foreign tourists.

How are Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, and Micheal Moore going to spin this?

Superbelt · 01-11-2004, 06:13 PM

Spin what? What are you talking about?

And it's "Michael
It's the most common male name in the country learn to spell it right.

Endymon32 · 01-11-2004, 07:01 PM

Those three have spoken about the benifits of Castro and his govenrment. So I am eagerly awaiting to hear how this is really a good thing from those misguided three.

Superbelt · 01-11-2004, 07:16 PM

No they haven't They have all either said that he isn't the unbelievable monster others have portrayed him as or argued against the crippling sanctions which only serve to strengthen his hold on power and hurt the average cuban.

Not one has spoken about the benefits of Castro.

Rekna · 01-11-2004, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Spin what? What are you talking about?

And it's "Michael
It's the most common male name in the country learn to spell it right.

My dad spells it Micheal my roommate spells it Michael.

filtherton · 01-11-2004, 08:02 PM

Whatever.
Out of all of the shitty things castro has done you choose his efforts to limit access to the internet to be like, "See, castro is evil, what do you non-cuba haters have to say about that!?!?"

Maybe castro, in trying to be more like china through internet restrictions, is trying to get some kind of favorable trade status. (I know it was clinton, so you don't have to waste your breath reminding me of that fact)

dami³ · 01-11-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Endymon32
How are Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, and Micheal Moore going to spin this?

Well it has been asked before, but I'll ask it again: a) why would they spin it and b) what's it to you?

Sparhawk · 01-11-2004, 08:23 PM

Where's seretogis' troll.gif?

almostaugust · 01-11-2004, 08:40 PM

So what about the article. Dude, methinks that you are under the impression that anyone who opposes Bush or is critical of the USA internationally is a commie. The cold war ended long ago, and there arnt many 'reds under the bed'.

Superbelt · 01-11-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rekna
My dad spells it Micheal my roommate spells it Michael.

Yeah but that Michael, the one he was referring to, is spelled 'ae' and the vastly more common spelling of it 'ae'.

I'm a Michael myself, I hate it when I see my name spelled 'ea'

Lebell · 01-11-2004, 10:49 PM

I too am concerned that this is a troll thread and will keep an eye on it.

I think the issue of Castro cutting I-net access could be discussed w/o bringing in what actors think of it.

Personally, I would rather read what you all think about it.

Prove me wrong, make this a good thread!

nanofever · 01-11-2004, 11:51 PM

*steps on soapbox* I'm so close to going to fanatical left-wing sites and posting articles extolling the virtues of progressive taxing and big government, just to bring balance to the TFP politics board. Then, I could be just like some people who copy and paste from moorewatch.com and then take credit for the article. *rolls eyes and steps off soapbox*

My stance is any internet regulation (that puts a single toe beyond stopping child porn and the ilk) is a horrible idea because of the international and dynamic nature of the beast.

Kadath · 01-12-2004, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Sparhawk
Where's seretogis' troll.gif?

I think Endymon should use it as an avatar.
Restricting access to information is generally considered a despotic move. "Beware of he who seeks to control your access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." -- Alpha Centauri.

Rekna · 01-12-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Yeah but that Michael, the one he was referring to, is spelled 'ae' and the vastly more common spelling of it 'ae'.

I'm a Michael myself, I hate it when I see my name spelled 'ea'

I was just pointing out he may have made an honest mistake. Typically chastising someone on grammer or spelling errors while ignoring what they were trying to say is rude especially with the tone you used. It just kindof rubbed me the wrong way even though you wern't correcting me.

dragon2fire · 01-12-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
Spin what? What are you talking about?

And it's "Michael
It's the most common male name in the country learn to spell it right.

o no how dare some one miss spell something

give me a break

MSD · 01-12-2004, 04:45 PM

Hey, I commend you all for sinking to silly arguments instead of trolling and flaming, but is this a thread about spelling names, or is it a thread where I can rant about wishing that our treaty agreeing to not depose Castro had expired when the Soviet Union (our reason for signing it) collapsed?

Come on, let's have some intelligent discussion, and let's all start discussions in a less intentionally provocative way. Can we agree on that? Good, I thought so.

Endymon32 · 01-12-2004, 07:03 PM

When you havent a leg to stand on, attack the grammar...

Lebell · 01-12-2004, 07:31 PM

Ok, I was waiting for the next poster's comments after MrSelfDestruct to see if they would redeem this thread.

They didn't.

Closed.

01-11-2004, 08:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	Where's seretogis' troll.gif? __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

01-11-2004, 08:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	So what about the article. Dude, methinks that you are under the impression that anyone who opposes Bush or is critical of the USA internationally is a commie. The cold war ended long ago, and there arnt many 'reds under the bed'. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

01-11-2004, 10:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I too am concerned that this is a troll thread and will keep an eye on it. I think the issue of Castro cutting I-net access could be discussed w/o bringing in what actors think of it. Personally, I would rather read what you all think about it. Prove me wrong, make this a good thread! __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-11-2004, 11:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	steps on soapbox I'm so close to going to fanatical left-wing sites and posting articles extolling the virtues of progressive taxing and big government, just to bring balance to the TFP politics board. Then, I could be just like some people who copy and paste from moorewatch.com and then take credit for the article. rolls eyes and steps off soapbox My stance is any internet regulation (that puts a single toe beyond stopping child porn and the ilk) is a horrible idea because of the international and dynamic nature of the beast. __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."

01-12-2004, 07:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Ok, I was waiting for the next poster's comments after MrSelfDestruct to see if they would redeem this thread. They didn't. Closed. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-11-2004, 06:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Spin what? What are you talking about? And it's "Michael It's the most common male name in the country learn to spell it right.

01-11-2004, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Endymon32 Banned	Those three have spoken about the benifits of Castro and his govenrment. So I am eagerly awaiting to hear how this is really a good thing from those misguided three.

01-11-2004, 07:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	No they haven't They have all either said that he isn't the unbelievable monster others have portrayed him as or argued against the crippling sanctions which only serve to strengthen his hold on power and hurt the average cuban. Not one has spoken about the benefits of Castro.

01-11-2004, 08:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Whatever. Out of all of the shitty things castro has done you choose his efforts to limit access to the internet to be like, "See, castro is evil, what do you non-cuba haters have to say about that!?!?" Maybe castro, in trying to be more like china through internet restrictions, is trying to get some kind of favorable trade status. (I know it was clinton, so you don't have to waste your breath reminding me of that fact)

01-12-2004, 04:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Hey, I commend you all for sinking to silly arguments instead of trolling and flaming, but is this a thread about spelling names, or is it a thread where I can rant about wishing that our treaty agreeing to not depose Castro had expired when the Soviet Union (our reason for signing it) collapsed? Come on, let's have some intelligent discussion, and let's all start discussions in a less intentionally provocative way. Can we agree on that? Good, I thought so.

01-12-2004, 07:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
Endymon32 Banned	When you havent a leg to stand on, attack the grammar...